murphaph wrote: » What a load of waffle. Bus Eireann don't need to remain. The routes can be just as well if not better operated by privates. You'd make any excuse to justify donating tax payers money to very well paid semi state employees. As said to you countless times, private operating of tendered out routes with minimum service levels are quite common and quite successful beyond the UK. You dislike this model purely because the wages are lower. No other reason.
end of the road wrote: » the operator has stipulations and requirements to meet in the contract so simply have to meet those. it's not their job to do any more, so therefore the routes can't be operated any better. so no reason exists to remove the publically owned, publically funded company in my view.
n97 mini wrote: » Can BE drivers not hot swap? 2.25 hours into the journey the bus meets the bus coming the other way. Drivers swap. 4.5 hours after leaving the depot they're back. Break time. Head off on another shorter route, maybe even got swap again, back in the depot before overtime kicks in. There is software that can work these kind of shifts out, but correct me if I'm mistaken, drivers are doing overtime because they want to, and are not willing to facilitate better routing that would eliminate that.
ted44 wrote: » That's all great stuff on paper. So what happens when the bus your supposed to meet breaks down and your stuck on the side of a road full with passengers,your plan goes out the window, and as for the SHORT journey your rosterd for when you get back, is also out the window. So can you tell me what's the name of the software that can sort this situation
emroid wrote: » CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: » Is there a reason that there is so much overtime in bus eireann. If drivers are being paid time and a half for overtime why the hell are the management accepting the widespread overtime at present. Can they not recruit additional drivers. Simple terms. Journey from A to B takes 4.5 hours. So there and back is 9 hours work. Driver gets 8 hours pay at normal rate and 1 hour at overtime rate. Journey from A to B takes 1.5 hours. Driver does this twice before the break for 6 hours and once after the break for 3 hours for a total of 9 hour work. Driver gets 8 hours pay at normal rate and 1 hour at overtime rate.
CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: » Is there a reason that there is so much overtime in bus eireann. If drivers are being paid time and a half for overtime why the hell are the management accepting the widespread overtime at present. Can they not recruit additional drivers.
murphaph wrote: » Customers are workers! 30 years ago ordinary working people could hardly afford a flight to London.
Brendan Bendar wrote: » Who do you think you are kidding ,my friend. You are across every dispute thread here, batting for the strikers. Who do you think you are kidding . I might have had some respect for you if you pumped out an agenda, but to think you can put yourself out as a centerist !!! Take a running jump, my friend. You need to stop taking people for idiots.
Grandeeod wrote: » They cost more.
Yourself isit wrote: » But his view is probably centrist. How many Irish people actually want a privatised public transport system?
Yourself isit wrote: » 30 years ago they could afford a train to London.
Wanderer78 wrote: » you d be surprised of the amount of people who beleive neoliberalism works
n97 mini wrote: » The same can be said for socialism.
Wanderer78 wrote: » typical two dimensional thinking on boards regarding these issues.... there are other forms of capitalism and other economic systems, theories and models! two dimensional thinking is very very boring!
salonfire wrote: » You mean the system that puts a roof over your head. Puts fuel in your car. Provides the clothes on your back. The food in your belly. Allows you to travel almost anywhere in the world relatively cheaply. Offers you a choice of electricity suppliers. A choice of TV stations. A choice of what car to buy. A choice of Internet and phone providers. Sounds horrible. I can see why you would want to change it to something that has never been proven to work for the people.
Yourself isit wrote: » We would have less competition in the absence of BE.
salonfire wrote: » We would also have less competition if the private companies were restricted to the benefit of Bus Eireann which is what the union wants.
Trampas wrote: » Most people couldn't give a flying fk who supplies/drives the train, bus etc as long it is reliable, clean, reasonably priced. Some of the drivers on my route 120 are always late, slow driving and boarding passengers. Never say thank you, hello or goodbye. Like you should be thankful he's driving the bus as if he wasn't you'd be going nowhere.
Yourself isit wrote: » You expect the minimum waged private sector worker to be a bundle of joy? Anyway that's Dublin bus.
Yourself isit wrote: » Being opposed to rail or bus privatisation is not socialism. Or else most conservatives in the UK would be socialist.
murphaph wrote: » They can be operated better. A private company that takes pride in its vehicles and staff will be better placed to win routes over slovenly ones. The NTA can look at 2 close bids and pick the better quality offering. Hypothetical question for you: If company x offers better comfort to passengers than BE and costs less to the taxpayer, who should get the route?
n97 mini wrote: » The Conservatives privatised everything.
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