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I was on Amazon(US) earlier today and saw that is up for pre-order GTA V is set for a PC release on the 27th of Jan 2015. It was priced up at $60 which probably means it could be on stream for €60 and cheaper elsewhere.

I feel the 60 mark is a bit steep for a game that will be 1 year and 4 month and 10 days old by the time a PC user can play it. I was expecting maybe it around the 40euro mark.

Saying that it will still sell like hot cakes and ill too pick it up.

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dreamers75

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

yup was looking for a reason to support amd but ill be sticking with my 6700k, unless the crappy gaming performance is down to bugs that get ironed out.

confusing thing is in all synthetic benchmarks the r7 is a multithreaded monster and is on par with 6900k in singlethreaded, just doesnt translate to games for some weird reason

Drivers(for a CPU WTF) , patches, optimizations.....may help.

I have a 5960X that I paid maybe 500 more than its worth because AMD are **** and offer no competition to Intel so they can price accordingly.

I am probably about 2-3 years away from a new CPU and I hoped AMD would at least offer some competition so my next choice would be cheaper and the market would get a kick in the hole.

Icyseanfitz

dreamers75 wrote: »

So AMD are **** again.

Bugger hoped it would kickstart a CPU war.

yup was looking for a reason to support amd but ill be sticking with my 6700k, unless the crappy gaming performance is down to bugs that get ironed out.

confusing thing is in all synthetic benchmarks the r7 is a multithreaded monster and is on par with 6900k in singlethreaded, just doesnt translate to games for some weird reason

CastorTroy

Kiith wrote: »

So tempted to get the Switch. The reviews of Zelda are really something, and it would probably get more use than the PS4 at the moment. Nothing coming out on that that interests me (not that Last Guardian and Uncharted 4 are gone).

Horizon Zero Dawn is meant to be good. I'll get it down the road.

So with Shovel Knight Treasure Trove coming to Switch, I was wondering could someone explain the different versions on PC?
Like I thought I saw somewhere that if you owned the original, which is less than a tenner on GOG, you got the others for free?

gizmo

Ugh, with the 1080 getting a price cut and its effect on 1070 pricing yet to be seen, holding off my full rebuild for Vega is becoming increasingly difficult. With a Q2 release still on the cards I was hoping AMD would even hint at a narrower date during their GDC talk.

ShadowHearth

I had big hopes, but looks like we are back to square one. It still shook intel a bit, which was good. Looks like no ryzen upgrade this year and another year with 2500k. Please vega be at least decent..

TerrorFirmer

dreamers75 wrote: »

So AMD are **** again.

Bugger hoped it would kickstart a CPU war.

It still will generally as they're excellent productivity processors, half the price of Intel for the same performance.

Gaming however, like the FX (relatively speaking, obviously is light years ahead of those), is at this point in time is considerably inferior to Intel, even when pairing the €500 flagship R7 1800X to the €350 i7-7700, and sometimes the €250 i5-7600K.

It may be bugs that can be ironed out, maybe not, but I wouldn't be in any rush to buy one if I was a gamer, and ditching existing Intel Haswell/Broadwell/Skylake setups now in favour of a system upgrade to Ryzen is definitely out the window for gamers.

Will see what the next few months bring.

Robert ninja

There's always http://cemu.info/ Although I don't know if the game you're wanting to play is stable on it. But if you're already willing to buy the game might as well see if it'll run on this before buying the console to go with it :P

mrcheez

OSI wrote: »

Finding one is challenging enough. When you do, they're still selling for €300+

The concept of discounts is alien in the Nintendo world. A good discount is €2 off a €50 game made 7 years ago

(exaggeration.... but not far off)

dreamers75

So AMD are **** again.

Bugger hoped it would kickstart a CPU war.

Digital Solitude

Smyths have a deal on them atm with two games for €200 I believe

pleasant Co.

Kiith wrote: »

That's the other option i guess. Get a cheap WiiU and play it there.

The best of luck with that one

Kiith

That's the other option i guess. Get a cheap WiiU and play it there.

FAILSAFE 00

Kiith wrote: »

So tempted to get the Switch. The reviews of Zelda are really something, and it would probably get more use than the PS4 at the moment. Nothing coming out on that that interests me (not that Last Guardian and Uncharted 4 are gone).

At least people with a Wii U will still be able to play Zelda.

Kiith

So tempted to get the Switch. The reviews of Zelda are really something, and it would probably get more use than the PS4 at the moment. Nothing coming out on that that interests me (not that Last Guardian and Uncharted 4 are gone).

Revoker88

Well after all the talk about the XBO controller i decided to pony up for one. Ive wanted one awhile but *ahem* the price of the official kit had put me off *ahem*.

Ive heard nothing but good things about the controller anyway so while if feel it was expensive im sure ill get use out of it over the years. Possibly be grabbing Scorpio in the fall so can use it on that too if nessacery.

Also ive had my eye on a Logitech G29 for awhile so decided to drop into power city on the way home from work. Online its down as €209 and the same in store. What it doesnt note is that there is a current offer where you get the wheel and peddles for €200 with the shifter as an added bonus,so €10 cheaper than marked price amd they throw in the shifter. They couldnt tell me when this deal expire. Also im only sure it applies to the G29,it may not apply to the G920.
Great price for the whole lot imo,doesnt work out ill sell it in a few months for not much of a loss.

TerrorFirmer

Are the really cheap bluetooth dongles trustworthy though? I find with those bargain basement dongles, be they bluetooth or wifi, the can be problematic.

Also, the Venom battery packs are horrible. I've a set on my Xbox One controllers and the battery life is terrible, sometimes I end up having to plug the controller in.

I'd be inclined to pony up for better quality products, it's a once once investment really.

FAILSAFE 00

EoinHef wrote: »

Try again,i said the MS dongle was about €25,which makes it near an even €100. If your happy to use a 3rd party dongle go ahead. Also a 3rd party battery pack.Again correct me if im wrong.

When i play using the PC on the TV in the living room i use the controller,with a wired one sitting back on the couch and playing isnt really an option unless i want a huge snaking usb cable snakimg accross the floor.

Your post is the following...

EoinHef wrote: »

The Xbox one controller looks great,only hear good things about it. Roughly €100 when you add the plug and charge kit and bluetooth dongle though.

You didn't mention any official Microsoft products except for the controller.

Also the Xbox dongle for windows is not a bluetooth dongle. Its some proprietary wireless tech which is why the Xbox One (ver 1) controller can work even though it has no bluetooth capabilities.

The official wireless adapter is massive when hooked into a USB port. I'd recommend a low profile USB bluetooth dongle to work with an Xbox version 2 controller.

Here is a video showing a comparison between the Xbox wireless adapter for windows and a regular bluetooth dongle. Its a very simple video and just tests the range. Not latency. In my case I use the controller a few feet from my desk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHnIEkLIpG8

Lukker-

Let us know how you get on with the bluetooth dongle, I've heard there are some latency problems if you don't use the official dongle.

wotzgoingon

The usb cable wire doesn't bother me what bothers me more is the headphone cable coming from my PC. I nearly always get tangled up in it. Never happened once with usb cable going into my controller.

mrcheez

FAILSAFE 00 wrote: »

€72 including shipping. All in

Not €100.

cool thanks, so no lag going for a usb Bluetooth over a card?

wotzgoingon wrote: »

I use a usb cable to connect my Xbox One controller to both my PC and my Xbox One. I sit right beside my computer and console so it has never been much of a problem.

I play wirelessly on my bedroom TV from the pc in the next room, so no nasty wires for me

Revoker88

FAILSAFE 00 wrote: »

€72 including shipping. All in

Not €100.

Try again,i said the MS dongle was about €25,which makes it near an even €100. If your happy to use a 3rd party dongle go ahead. Also a 3rd party battery pack.Again correct me if im wrong.

When i play using the PC on the TV in the living room i use the controller,with a wired one sitting back on the couch and playing isnt really an option unless i want a huge snaking usb cable snakimg accross the floor.

wotzgoingon

I use a usb cable to connect my Xbox One controller to both my PC and my Xbox One. I sit right beside my computer and console so it has never been much of a problem.

FAILSAFE 00

€72 including shipping. All in

Not €100.

Revoker88

FAILSAFE 00 wrote: »

I have built 2 gaming PCs in the past 3 years and I have put bluetooth into both builds. Why wouldn't someone add it. Its dirt cheap. You can even buy USB bluetooth adapters for under €10 so come off your high horse with this €100 nonsense.

At bare minimum people can buy a Xbox One controller for 55 and a bluetooth adapter for under €10.

Ok,as the bare minimum someone could do that. What i said was that the controller,plug and play kit and the dongle was €100,and this allowed you to have a wireless controller without batteries,was i wrong?

For €65 you dont get that.

FAILSAFE 00

mrcheez wrote: »

I don't have bluetooth on my custom rig which I built 5 years ago because, well, I didn't need it

Anyway €100 for the controller with a bluetooth adapter/dongle is quite a lot, so I'll stick with my Xbox 360 controller for now (until the 2nd wireless dongle dies that is)

Its not €100.

The controller is 55 in Argos and a bluetooth USB adapter is under €10 on amazon.

I use the Xbox One controller (V2) with my gaming PC.

FAILSAFE 00

EoinHef wrote: »

You forgot the wireless adapter,which is €25 most places so yeah,€100. Most custom gaming PC's are not gonna have bluetooth,your commemt abou USB is just plain idiotic. Most PC's come with USB,not a lot come with bluetooth.

I have built 2 gaming PCs in the past 3 years and I have put bluetooth into both builds. Why wouldn't someone add it. Its dirt cheap. You can even buy USB bluetooth adapters for under €10 so come off your high horse with this €100 nonsense.

At bare minimum people can buy a Xbox One controller for 55 and a bluetooth adapter for under €10.

mrcheez

I don't have bluetooth on my custom rig which I built 5 years ago because, well, I didn't need it

Anyway €100 for the controller with a bluetooth adapter/dongle is quite a lot, so I'll stick with my Xbox 360 controller for now (until the 2nd wireless dongle dies that is)

Revoker88

Laptops seem to be about the only time i see bluetooth,unless its some pre built dell or the like. Ive found them to have bluetooth but thats about it.

I also just chrage controllers with a phone charger when im not using them. Saves the hassle of tethering it to the PC

Revoker88

FAILSAFE 00 wrote: »

What if your PC has no USB port :pac:

Xbox One controller with Bluetooth support - €55

And if you want a battery that holds a great charge I suggest the
Xbox One Play & Charge Kit. €20.00

Total: €75

Not €100.

Also most people I know have rechargeable AA batteries so they might not even want a play and charge kit.

I'll never understand people complaining about batteries in controllers. I think its great that you can swap batteries out and not have to deal with a product that uses in-built batteries that lose their charge eventually over time.

You forgot the wireless adapter,which is €25 most places so yeah,€100. Most custom gaming PC's are not gonna have bluetooth,your commemt abou USB is just plain idiotic. Most PC's come with USB,not a lot come with bluetooth.

FAILSAFE 00

EoinHef wrote: »

What if your PC does not have bluetooth? Who in 2017 wants a wired controller? Also batteries?? Really?

I stand by my €100 quote,if you want a wireless XB1 controller that doesnt run on AA's thats about what it costs

What if your PC has no USB port :pac:

Xbox One controller with Bluetooth support - €55

And if you want a battery that holds a great charge I suggest the
Xbox One Play & Charge Kit. €20.00

Total: €75

Not €100.

Also most people I know have rechargeable AA batteries so they might not even want a play and charge kit.

I'll never understand people complaining about batteries in controllers. I think its great that you can swap batteries out and not have to deal with a product that uses in-built batteries that lose their charge eventually over time.