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Does anyone know what the ethnic Traveller Status statement actually means?

Spanish Eyes

I'm just a bit puzzled by this impending statement by Enda Kenny, being delivered shortly.

Does it change any law, does it change the Constitution?

Does anyone know. Information is thin on the ground really AFAIS.

Thanks.

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end of the road

Sweetemotion wrote: »

What are the elderly people of rural Ireland, who are intimidated by this "special culture" going to think. Seeing Enda Kenny giving them more rights. than the people they are intimidating?

Surly this is the end for Enda.

What a cnut.

they aren't getting "more rights" then the people some travelers intimidate.

b_mac2 wrote: »

The amount of virtue signalling

this is the latest buzz term now i see. when was it added to the special book?

DredFX wrote: »

Slightly off topic but why do travellers receive so many dispensations in everyday life?

And don't say 'Pavee Point'. Honestly, what benefit do politicians stand to gain from pandering to these people who, regardless of how you feel about it, as a whole contribute little to the country? Is it extra votes? Fear of being called racist? Fear of getting a broken jaw?

what dispensations do travelers receive? can you name them all?

punisher5112 wrote: »

Its the new thing these days don't upset anyone or say no for fear of being called racist or getting sued.

where is this happening. i have been called racist myself, however as i know i'm not i have nothing to fear from it as there will be no proof that i am, because i'm not one.

JamboMac

BalcombeSt4 wrote: »

Yes, I do have a chip on my shoulder towards people who talk out of their hole.

Must be really self abusive then.

RayM

b_mac2 wrote: »

+1

The amount of virtue signalling on Boards makes me sick. I bet all these people would cross the road if they even thought a traveller might be approaching them.

What's the opposite of 'virtue signalling'? There's a lot of that on Boards - for example, the 26 people who've thanked a post calling for ethnic cleansing.

What you really mean is: the fact that a relatively small number of people don't have the same opinions as you makes you sick.

BalcombeSt4

JamboMac wrote: »

But is that not them discriminating/prejudging settled people, see it's well that back in the day they had useful functions to do things farmers and so on, times changed they didn't.

All children in this country must go to school/get an education, their are truancy laws no, as for a job, how do they support themselves?

Sorry I couldn't write thesis on the plight of travellers maybe you can discuss the topic and not people in the thread, I'm not gonna resort to calling you names because your chip on your shoulder speaks for itself.

Yes, I do have a chip on my shoulder towards people who talk fictitiously out of their hole.

[Deleted User]

Deleted User wrote:

I dont agree with ethnic cleansing in any way shape or form but i simply dont agree with the patsying that is being done here. It is sickening. For a government to recognise what is essentially a tribe of vagabonds is simply beyond mental. At a time when we have a homelessness crisis, a housing crisis, and a hospital crisis...this is not a priority in the nations interest but a cheap PR stunt to impress more European suits who wouldnt live a mile from travellers.

Don't you get it though? Every post here is proving that they are an ethnic group. Every time a poster groups them together its proving it. The fact that there are stereo types even proves it. Now I've said before that you do not have to like them but there's no denying that they are an ethnic group

dinnybyrne

Esel wrote:

Name and shame:

Esel wrote:

Now down to fifteen! Who slyly unthanked?

Esel wrote:

Thanked by sixteen users when I looked back.

Esel wrote:

Thanks: arayess, booterboy, Bscan86, Commotion Ocean, DanMurphy, DavidLyons_, Dr Turk Turkelton, Filmer Paradise, Icsics, Johnny Jukebox, lazybones32, Oblivoid, Parachutes, Richard Hillman, ronnie3585, Super_Sonic

This is the muzzle that was mentioned earlier.
Trying to shame people l
for their opinions like this, classic pc brigade bullying. Disgusting.
Im going to come straight out with it- i despise travellers and i have good reasons for it. So do you, we all do so stop pretending to hold the moral high ground, grow a pair of balls, and voice your opinions.

RayM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

The big question for those who love Travellers is...

Do you live next to them right now?

OR, Would you live next to them and their caravans and all the rest of it?

I doubt you would like it, so you are trolls IMO if you say yes,

Would genuinely like an answer.

I lived around the corner from some Travellers for a few years. They were there before me, so I suppose you could say I chose to live next to them (and their caravans and all the rest of it). Never had any problems with them.

JamboMac

b_mac2 wrote: »

You'd actually send your kids to a halting site?

No sorry, you're not stupid, you just want to show how "tolerant" you are. I get ya.

Your assuming he's not a traveller.

b_mac2

Esel wrote: »

It's a bet. You can name the halting site (as long as it's within a 30 mile radius of where I currently reside).

Maybe we can get one of the original wthankers who have 'ironically' thanked (i.e. stalked) my posts to hold the money? There will be no seconds, just you, me, the kids and the escrow agent. I'm here all through Lent.

You'd actually send your kids to a halting site?

No sorry, you're not stupid, you just want to show how "tolerant" you are. I get ya.

[Deleted User]

I dont agree with ethnic cleansing in any way shape or form but i simply dont agree with the patsying that is being done here. It is sickening. For a government to recognise what is essentially a tribe of vagabonds is simply beyond mental. At a time when we have a homelessness crisis, a housing crisis, and a hospital crisis...this is not a priority in the nations interest but a cheap PR stunt to impress more European suits who wouldnt live a mile from travellers.

Just the other day, the county council evicted them from a site a mere mile away from me and armed guards were there on duty. I would doubt armed guards would be there for any normal upstanding human beings. Culture my hole. About time these pr1cks in suits copped the fúck on and started to use some proper leverage in their positions instead of hammering down on decent hardworking people trying to get by. No more blind eyes, if you want special recognition for a few tokenised things like language and music etc then start behaving like a normal human being.

I say that and i do acknowledge that there is many many decent members of the travelling community that have done their best to integrate somewhat without forgetting where they came from. They have done alot for sport, music, arts and irish culture. My comments are not aimed at them but i would appeal to the powers that be to come to some form of resolution rather than this pathetic sh1te. I admire John Connors for all that he has achieved in acting and i acknowledge that as a child he did suffer some uncalled for prejudice but he needs to take his head out of the sand and see both sides of the argument. He said only a handful of families are engaged in bare knuckle boxing for example and yet he is there on youtube himself doing it :rolleyes:

Beard Boss

Before you just hated Knackers. Now you're a racist.

[Deleted User]

Spanish Eyes wrote:

Just wondered if anyone had a great interraction with a Traveller calling to their house.

A traveller lady calls into the house next door to me. She's doing every Saturday for the 20 odd years I'm living here. My next door neighbour brings her in for a cup of tea and a chat or sometimes lunch. They even exchange Christmas gifts. This is a very positive thing for my neighbour.

Working class heroes

Esel wrote: »

It's a bet. You can name the halting site (as long as it's within a 30 mile radius of where I currently reside).

Maybe we can get one of the original wthankers who have 'ironically' thanked (i.e. stalked) my posts to hold the money? There will be no seconds, just you, me, the kids and the escrow agent. I'm here all through Lent.

Jaysus don't let any of that lot hold your money, not to be trusted that lot....

Esel

Sweetemotion wrote: »

Your high horse is getting bigger.

Bet you €1,000, you wouldn't let your kids walk into a halting site.

It's a bet. You can name the halting site (as long as it's within a 30 mile radius of where I currently reside).

Maybe we can get one of the original **** thankers who have 'ironically' thanked (i.e. stalked) my posts to hold the money? There will be no seconds, just you, me, the kids and the escrow agent. I'm here all through Lent.

punisher5112

Its the new thing these days don't upset anyone or say no for fear of being called racist or getting sued.

I can't get what this has to do with politics as they should be working on more important issues and getting a government that can actually run the country.

85% unemployment rate amongst the group.

There may well be nice people in the group but by god the ones I come across are far from it.

Working class heroes

Sweetemotion wrote: »

Your high horse is getting bigger.

Bet you €1,000, you wouldn't let your kids walk into a halting site.

I'll have some of that action. Who holds the dosh?

Richard Hillman

Sweetemotion wrote: »

Your high horse is getting bigger.

Bet you €1,000, you wouldn't let your kids walk into a halting site.

The big question is, how many of those TDs that voted Yes would totally lose their **** if little Donncha or Sorcha came home with Jimmy Connors Jr or his sister :pac:

DredFX

Slightly off topic but why do travellers receive so many dispensations in everyday life?

And don't say 'Pavee Point'. Honestly, what benefit do politicians stand to gain from pandering to these people who, regardless of how you feel about it, as a whole contribute little to the country? Is it extra votes? Fear of being called racist? Fear of getting a broken jaw?

b_mac2

Sweetemotion wrote: »

Your high horse is getting bigger.

Bet you €1,000, you wouldn't let your kids walk into a halting site.

+1

The amount of virtue signalling on Boards makes me sick. I bet all these people would cross the road if they even thought a traveller might be approaching them.

[Deleted User]

Sweetemotion wrote: »

What are the elderly people of rural Ireland, who are intimidated by this "special culture" going to think. Seeing Enda Kenny giving them more rights. than the people they are intimidating?

Surly this is the end for Enda.

What a cnut.

A weak miserable bully. The sooner that hapless clown retires from politics the better. That said, FG are full of his sort.

JamboMac

end of the road wrote: »

no they don't trust you because of discrimination. it's none of your business whether they go to school or get a job, that's the business of the authorities and revenue who we elect on our behalf to monitor such activities in relation to the population.

But is that not them discriminating/prejudging settled people, see it's well that back in the day they had useful functions to do things farmers and so on, times changed they didn't.

All children in this country must go to school/get an education, their are truancy laws no, as for a job, how do they support themselves?

BalcombeSt4 wrote: »

From the low level intellegence conversations going on in this thread I wouldn't expect anybody in Ireland to get a job anymore if there all this thick.

Sorry I couldn't write thesis on the plight of travellers maybe you can discuss the topic and not people in the thread, I'm not gonna resort to calling you names because your chip on your shoulder speaks for itself.

Sweetemotion

What are the elderly people of rural Ireland, who are intimidated by this "special culture" going to think. Seeing Enda Kenny giving them more rights. than the people they are intimidating?

Surly this is the end for Enda.

What a cnut.

[Deleted User]

end of the road wrote: »

no they don't trust you because of discrimination. it's none of your business whether they go to school or get a job, that's the business of the authorities and revenue who we elect on our behalf to monitor such activities in relation to the population.

Well in fact when they are dossing around with little education and no employment prospects it will be his business then because as a taxpayer his taxes will be funding this 'ethnic culture'

[Deleted User]

Bambi wrote: »

Cant wait for traveller history month

"My uncle antnee bet your faader below in ennis"

"Yeeeesss it started in Ballymahon when i bate you, and we met a year after and i bate ya agin"

Sweetemotion

Esel wrote: »

There are actually sixteen in the above list. There are twenty now:

Thanks: arayess, BattleCorp, booterboy, Bscan86, Commotion Ocean, DanMurphy, DavidLyons_, doncarlos, Dr Turk Turkelton, Filmer Paradise, Gavinz, Icsics, Johnny Jukebox, lazybones32, Oblivoid, Parachutes, Richard Hillman, ronnie3585, Super_Sonic, Vowel Movement

Your high horse is getting bigger.

Bet you €1,000, you wouldn't let your kids walk into a halting site.

BalcombeSt4

JamboMac wrote: »

Nope last week probably everyday of the week asked to cut the hedges and once twice in the same day, the second time just after my dad left in the jeep, I wonder why they would do that?

Have travellers actually bother trying to sociable with us country folk as they would call, we won't trust them because they want to keep their secrets and they won't trust us because we expect them to go to school and get a job.

From the low level intellegence conversations going on in this thread I wouldn't expect anybody in Ireland to get a job anymore if there all this thick.

end of the road

JamboMac wrote: »

Nope last week probably everyday of the week asked to cut the hedges and once twice in the same day, the second time just after my dad left in the jeep, I wonder why they would do that?

Have travellers actually bother trying to sociable with us country folk as they would call, we won't trust them because they want to keep their secrets and they won't trust us because we expect them to go to school and get a job.

no they don't trust you because of discrimination. it's none of your business whether they go to school or get a job, that's the business of the authorities and revenue who we elect on our behalf to monitor such activities in relation to the population.

Richard Hillman

Bambi wrote: »

Cant wait for traveller history month

"My uncle antnee bet your faader below in ennis"

Traveler history is there most bogus thing ever. It was never written down for obvious reasons so it just gets the word of mouth treatment. There are A LOT of travelers that think they were the indeginous population before all of us arrived.

JamboMac

Bambi wrote: »

Cant wait for traveller history month

"My uncle antnee bet your faader below in ennis"

Will it not be into the west on a loop.

Dyr

Cant wait for traveller history month

"My uncle antnee bet your faader below in ennis"