sofireland wrote: » You'd think so, however, last time they went on strike, they didn't refund. It's buried in their terms and conditions somewhere. Joke as they would be the only ones within CIE who don't refund for lost days, a bit galling tbh as my commuter pass costs €2400 per annum, and is paid to end of June. While on strike, i'll have to drive and park in the city, or get the train which means a 20km drive to the station, again, costing me extra money when i've paid for my commute already
end of the road wrote: » not their job to take responsibility and drive as they are taking greater responsibility by using public transport. ireland is not strike crippled, you wouldn't know the meaning of the word bus transport in ireland isn't deregulated. bus eireann drivers earn reasonable wages for the job they do, it's the allowences (which are now going to be removed or cut) which bring the pay up.
end of the road wrote: » Idbatterim wrote: » the propaganda is pathetic! this getting rural ireland on side, is so transparent! I hope to god but wont hold my breath, that the taxpayers prevails for once! Let them leave for the private operators, because they are so hard done by ... there is no propaganda, if bus eireann goes to the wall rural ireland will be without a lot of services until the replacements can be set up. it is unknown how long that would take.
Idbatterim wrote: » the propaganda is pathetic! this getting rural ireland on side, is so transparent! I hope to god but wont hold my breath, that the taxpayers prevails for once! Let them leave for the private operators, because they are so hard done by ...
Bass Reeves wrote: » There crocodile tears is disgusting and a lot of people know that. Whipping up hysteria and frightening older people is absolutely shocking. I was speaking to a mother of a special needs young adult. She was upset wording about the pitiful bust service we have that her daughter uses to access her sheltered employment. I had to explain that the expressway service was totally different to PSO services. I think it is absolutely disgusting the carry on of the NBRU, SF and FF politicians.
The other issue I see about this is it seems that the jobs of BE and Expressway workers are much more important than the jobs of the other commercial operators. I think it is time that journalists on RTE etc question the unions and politicians about this
Bass Reeves wrote: » The people in rural Ireland will be willing to accept this.
Bass Reeves wrote: » It is much preferably than paying extra taxes to fund already patchy services that are run more with the workers in mind rather than the general public.
end of the road wrote: » i presume you mean extra tax money, as there are no plans to introduce extra taxes. especially now that the water charges have been defeated.
Brendan Bendar wrote: » Forget all the rhetoric and cant.... Here's the bottom line. Does the hard-pressed taxpayer shunt more tax Euro into a bloated, badly run, uncompetitive,not cost effective entity, or say no!. This taxpayer says NO! Get your house in order folks, stop trying to ride the taxpayer ragged, stop trying to take advantage and work the system.
devnull wrote: » People have that disconnect though in Ireland, the same ones who don't want to pay for water, are the same ones who want a better water system without taking any money from other departments.
Heisenberg1 wrote: » Am I missing something with this whole argument in 2015 BE received €33.7 million in subvention from the government but paid back €59 million to the government through taxes so that's a net return of €25.3 million back to the taxpayer, how is the taxpayer been ridden ragged ?
devnull wrote: » Can we apply that same logic to bankers bonuses, and take off the amount they paid in tax from their overall salary that we quote? Can we also do the same of any other company we pay money to as well? I How about other areas of government? Can we do the same for the Taioseach, saying that he only costs €101k because he pays €84k in tax which we get back?
Heisenberg1 wrote: » I haven't mentioned bankers or politicians I am saying that how is the taxpayer getting a raw deal when it's costing €0 to fund?
Heisenberg1 wrote: » Am I missing something with this whole argument in 2015 BE received €33.7 million in subvention from the government but paid back €59 million to the government through taxes so that's a net return of €25.3 million back to the taxpayer, how is the taxpayer been ridden ragged ? The government are getting the €33.7 million back plus the €25.3 million back so the net cost to the government is €0, then again they will blow that money on another Eircode type scheme. I will ageee that there is inefficient work practices that need to be sorted.
devnull wrote: » You do realize, that a company has to pay tax, whether they get money from the government or not?
Grandeeod wrote: » There's kids doing JC business studies with a better understanding than the one you have provided.
Brendan Bendar wrote: » The same ones who don't want to pay for ANYTHING are first up demanding"world class services" provided they don't have to pay. As Sean Barrett said this morning, there are people out there who want the PAYE worker to shoulder the burden every time. He saw wht was happening, that some outside the PAYE net have means and ways to avoid and that dragging that coterie into the net via water charges would lessen the burden on those on PAYE. That's why there was so much support for the anti water charge brigade.
Heisenberg1 wrote: » Do they really ?? Of course I know that what I'm saying is that this company provides an important service throughout the country and I would not like to see people lose there jobs or a race to the bottom
end of the road wrote: » no there was support for the movement because the charge was a stealth tax for something people were all ready paying for. it's been defeated and people will have to get over it. so back to bus eireann.
devnull wrote: » It said if the company was to maximise driver efficiency, there would be a requirement for 986 full-time drivers.
devnull wrote: » You think the water infrastructure is okay in this country then? That is like saying we should not have to pay for bus fares as we have already paid for them via our taxes.
Heisenberg1 wrote: » So what I said is false ?or I'm misunderstanding the figures ?
Grandeeod wrote: » Its simply misleading.
Bus Eireann would like to advise our customers of changes to our X12, Limerick/Dublin/Dublin Airport Timetable. From Sunday, 12 March 2017 the following services will be cancelled: Monday - Sunday: Cancellation of 16.30 service from Dublin Airport Monday – Saturday: Cancellation of 20.45 service from Limerick Friday & Sunday: Cancellation of 18.45 service from Limerick Friday: Cancellation of 13.00 service from Dublin Airport Saturday and Sunday: Cancellation of 06.00 & 10.00 services from Dublin Airport Saturday and Sunday: Cancellation of 05.20 & 11.45 services from Limerick
Heisenberg1 wrote: » Please explain ? Are the figures incorrect ? Is my understanding of the firgues incorrect? how are they misleading?
ted44 wrote: » Bus eireann. Is a test case!. Why did the NTA not step in and cover the Dublin city area, ? With private operations, When Dublin bus went out on strike.
