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Plan to develop hotel on site of former Shannon Dry Cleaners

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"Plan to develop hotel on site of former Shannon Dry Cleaners at Prospect Hill"
http://connachttribune.ie/plan-to-develop-hotel-on-site-of-former-shannon-dry-cleaners-at-prospect-hill/

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ben.schlomo

biko wrote: »

I don't have to be an expert to know an ugly building when I see one

It's sad concrete boxes seems to overtake as the standard building look. There are so many much nicer examples dotted around the city; Galway Bay, The Westwood etc

It's quite clearly not a box. It has curves, and is far less box like than the artist impressions from the original planning applications. Thankfully the artists impression isn't what it looks like, an oft seen, boring, run of the mill, unimaginative rectangle. The Galway Bay?! I assume you're on the wind-up, a kip, both outside and inside.

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biko wrote: »

I don't have to be an expert to know an ugly building when I see one

It's sad concrete boxes seems to overtake as the standard building look. There are so many much nicer examples dotted around the city; Galway Bay, The Westwood etc

A game of opinions I suppose. I think the Galway Bay Hotel is one of the most awful buildings in Galway, twee dollshouse look, and such a landmark location.

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Zzippy wrote: »

II blame the planners for being stupid enough to allow this.

Did the planners approve this? Or is it a case of easier to get forgiveness than permission?

Zzippy

biko wrote: »

Another ugly building to make Galway worse, not better. Thanks to Dublin architects Lawrence and Long.. https://www.lawrenceandlong.com/news/the-dean-hotel-galway/

Moved to older specific thread as I think this will take off.

I don't blame the architects. Architects are always trying to be different. I blame the planners for being stupid enough to allow this. Glad I don't live on Bohermore and have to look at this every day...

biko

I don't have to be an expert to know an ugly building when I see one

It's sad concrete boxes seems to overtake as the standard building look. There are so many much nicer examples dotted around the city; Galway Bay, The Westwood etc

ben.schlomo

I forgot about all the design/architecture experts we are so lucky to have in Galway. If only one of them had been employed in this so far unfinished project.

biko

Another ugly building to make Galway worse, not better. Thanks to Dublin architects Lawrence and Long.. https://www.lawrenceandlong.com/news/the-dean-hotel-galway/

Moved to older specific thread as I think this will take off.

pjohnson

m17 wrote: »

The Dean Hotel galway

Looks like its not finished loading on a dial up connection.

WallyGUFC

JohnCleary wrote: »

That could easily be mistaken for a modern prison.

Absolutely awful looking. A potential rival for the Pálás in the ugliest building in Galway competition.

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m17 wrote: »

The Dean Hotel galway

What... I thought this is what they put through planning?

After this original design was deemed not in keeping with the street...

JohnCleary

That could easily be mistaken for a modern prison.

m17

The Dean Hotel galway

Mars Bar

D Trent wrote: »

Yes no problem.
Were a person to be dropped from space onto one of either Bohermore or Gilmartin Rd in Tuam, said person would not be able to distinguish from either. No difference.
The houses are the same God awful ugly 1950s with windows-as-far-apart-facade.

Interestingly this week only, plans were announced by Co council to demolish 30 houses on Gilmartin Rd in Tuam to make way for 40 new homes. http://connachttribune.ie/contracts-signed-redevelop-dilapidated-tuam-estate-800/
I think the city council should look at doing something similar.

FTR This isn't a dig at the people of Bohermore, I know some and they are the salt of the earth.

As someone who is very familiar with Gilmartin Rd, that's harsh on bohermore!

Mrs OBumble

Treadhead wrote: »

Can't speak for others but personally I'd rather a development with a bit of visual interest rather than the boring architecture that's blighted our streetscapes for the last 2 decades....

Something like the Huntsman, where they made one new building, but from the outside it's pretending to be several different buildings, one with a bit of pretendy thatched room of it? And despite all that, they're really just a row of grey boxes.

jkforde

Treadhead wrote: »

Can't speak for others but personally I'd rather a development with a bit of visual interest rather than the boring architecture that's blighted our streetscapes for the last 2 decades....

irish architecture... a sad oxymoron... 'era, slap on some wood paneling.. and for God sakes don't forget the copper' ....sorry, back on topic.. is the old railway tunnel underneath a protected structure does anyone know or is it beyond any conservation value?

ben.schlomo

Treadhead wrote: »

Can't speak for others but personally I'd rather a development with a bit of visual interest rather than the boring architecture that's blighted our streetscapes for the last 2 decades....

Fully agree with this.

BeardySi

spurshero wrote: »

Would people rather that the whole site stay derelict like it is . The negativity on this thread I don't understand

Can't speak for others but personally I'd rather a development with a bit of visual interest rather than the boring architecture that's blighted our streetscapes for the last 2 decades....

spurshero

Would people rather that the whole site stay derelict like it is . The negativity on this thread I don't understand

jkforde

Treadhead wrote: »

Just what Galway needs, more dull grey boxes...

but on the bright side, it wouldn't be a grey box for long as it would soon don the distinctive shawl of blotchy pink algae... luvly jubly

Mrs OBumble

I'd say Bohermore is very much four separate quarters.

The north east and south east are very much residential, and for the most part not at all bad. The houses were originally very small - some have been extended, but the ones which haven't must be pretty bad to live in. That said, most still appear occupied and well-enough kept.

But the the south west, where this proposal is for, is scruffy: lots of commercial properties and many semi-derelict houses, some with massive sections behind them. Waste of space on a large scale.

ben.schlomo

D Trent wrote: »

Yes no problem.
Were a person to be dropped from space onto one of either Bohermore or Gilmartin Rd in Tuam, said person would not be able to distinguish from either. No difference.
The houses are the same God awful ugly 1950s with windows-as-far-apart-facade.

Interestingly this week only, plans were announced by Co council to demolish 30 houses on Gilmartin Rd in Tuam to make way for 40 new homes. http://connachttribune.ie/contracts-signed-redevelop-dilapidated-tuam-estate-800/
I think the city council should look at doing something similar.

FTR This isn't a dig at the people of Bohermore, I know some and they are the salt of the earth.

And you feel this grey box will somehow assist the look of an area at the other end of Bohermore, interesting. And for what's it's worth there are some cracking houses in the terraces in Bohermore, all it takes is a look at the renovation work done inside and out.

D Trent

spurshero wrote: »

can you explain to me why bohermore is a kip in your version . as somebody born and raised in the area i certainly wouldnt agree with ya

Yes no problem.
Were a person to be dropped from space onto one of either Bohermore or Gilmartin Rd in Tuam, said person would not be able to distinguish from either. No difference.
The houses are the same God awful ugly 1950s with windows-as-far-apart-facade.

Interestingly this week only, plans were announced by Co council to demolish 30 houses on Gilmartin Rd in Tuam to make way for 40 new homes. http://connachttribune.ie/contracts-signed-redevelop-dilapidated-tuam-estate-800/
I think the city council should look at doing something similar.

FTR This isn't a dig at the people of Bohermore, I know some and they are the salt of the earth.

spurshero

D Trent wrote: »

And by Jesus that's a good thing, Bohermore is a kip atm and it's a main artery into the city centre for visitors and tourists

can you explain to me why bohermore is a kip in your version . as somebody born and raised in the area i certainly wouldnt agree with ya

Mrs OBumble

Treadhead wrote: »

Just what Galway needs, more dull grey boxes...

In fairness, dull grey boxes are in keeping with historic Bohermore.

gctest50

It'd make an ideal emergency reception centre for refugees

BeardySi

brembo26 wrote: »

http://connachttribune.ie/plan-redevelop-bohermore-sites-140-bed-hotel/

Just what Galway needs, more dull grey boxes...

?Cee?view

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

I doubt it. It's a hotel not a back-packer hostel.

Can't see too many tourists being happy to haul their wheelie bags up Bothar-big-hill-where-the-laundry-was. A couple of posts on TripAdvisor from unhappy people who did it will stop others even trying.

More likely market is domestic and tourists with rental cars. So parking is needed. Also space at the front for tour buses to drop and pick up - the lack of such a space in front of the Western now is a pain for regular buses.

They need to move the building back surely with a layby type arrangement where buses, taxis, cars etc. can pull in.

Mrs OBumble

what_traffic wrote: »

This is what I was thinking about but guess very central location so many potential visitors using public transport.

I doubt it. It's a hotel not a back-packer hostel.

Can't see too many tourists being happy to haul their wheelie bags up Bothar-big-hill-where-the-laundry-was. A couple of posts on TripAdvisor from unhappy people who did it will stop others even trying.

More likely market is domestic and tourists with rental cars. So parking is needed. Also space at the front for tour buses to drop and pick up - the lack of such a space in front of the Western now is a pain for regular buses.

Poxyshamrock

That mockup up the hotel looks like something from 15 years ago. Bloody awful.

ben.schlomo

D Trent wrote: »

And by Jesus that's a good thing, Bohermore is a kip atm and it's a main artery into the city centre for visitors and tourists

A kip?? It's mostly two storey houses or commercial units. The vacant lots have been bought as per this application so that's underway. Kip, not so much. None of the tourist bus or train traffic from outside Galway passes there either so that's not too concerning.