deaddonkey15 wrote: » Good luck with that. Many college students go out of their way not to drink sensibly.
RabbleRouser2k wrote: » Just a nice little example of how even the most SECRET of facebook pages can be found via, ya know, evidence. If even the mail can find something like this...well... Maybe LON can take note.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4187912/Secret-Facebook-Bad-Girls-Advice-brags-domestic-violence.html
FishOnABike wrote: » I wouldn't put the blame for inaction totally at TUSLA's feet. The reports end up in front of a judge to make orders for the children's welfare. I'm aware of instances where judges have ignored or acted against the recommendations of child welfare reports while at the same time dismissing child welfare reports as being all the same and social workers as being useless as they never do anything anyway. It must be frustrating for social workers to have their hands tied by some of our judges who are blind to the irrationality and hypocrisy of their own views.
Widdershins wrote: » TUSLA are legall obligated to follow up every report though. It might be that there are more serious cases ahead of those ones. Also, they might find that the reality is different to the teacher's perception, or that there was no cause for concern. I know that's not always good enough and I think they do need to improve significantly (there were some very sad cases in the news a few years back) but imo some countries have far worse social services. In England they have a very intrusive system with adoption quotas, which I don't think the Irish have, and serious scandals that effectively amount to child snatching, while at the same time certain cases where kids were in real need were not helped.
lazybones32 wrote: » I don't know if it's the individual social worker, the organisation, the system or the judges (or all combined) who make it ineffective but the reason I asked my cousins about these type of kids was that one primary-school girl and her mother were murdered and one cousin had taught her. The stories that flowed from that question were disheartening. There was consensus that getting the social workers involved through the school-system is a waste of time. I know nothing of the system but I'll take the experience of those who dealt with/in it.
Widdershins wrote: » That's horrible. The comments on the article are depressing too. It looks like there's many damaged men and women out there.
deaddonkey15 wrote: » Unfortunately, this sort of stuff is still very much seen as a joke and "hilarious" (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3715287/You-ve-warned-Girl-creates-hilarious-video-demonstrating-guy-cheated-knifing-drilling-BITING-phallic-fruit-veg.html) by many.
homerjay2005 wrote: » wow, if this was a facebook page written by men, it would be world news and the outcry would be incredible. wonder if little louise would comment on it? im sure if it was the other way around, shed already have her article written.
homerjay2005 wrote: » weve a massive issue about domestic abuse towards men in ireland thats being completely ignored. ive posted this before, but a good friend of mine is involved in the health industry and a female colleague of his thats involved in certain sectors says the amount of middle aged men that are seriously unhappy in their lives and suffering at the hands of their wives, is astounding. its a hidden problem that gets ignored because nobody wants to touch it and dare suggest that men are being abused both physically and emotionally by their wives. suicide rates in the 45-54 year old categories are astounding, you are 7 times more likely to commit suicide at this agent if you are male than if you are female, yet we never hear a word about it.
py2006 wrote: » How on earth is that 'rape culture'?????
mzungu wrote: » Taking the usual "rape culture" hysterics out of the equation, I would like to know the exact reasons why he was released a day early. The article implies it was because there are no services at weekends, so would being released a day or two earlier apply to somebody who was in for robbery or assault if their sentences finished on a weekend? To be honest, considering what he did, he got off very, very lightly. I would be of the view that he should have been in prison for the duration of his (light) sentence and not a second less. IMO, he should be in jail for a lot longer for what he did and I can understand why his victim is upset over it.
The_Kew_Tour wrote: » I do think we need to help and support rape victims and the law needs be more serious on the Guilty, but I hate the term "Rape Culture"
red ears wrote: » Is that the case were the woman said she was asleep and he was having sex with her without her consent (rape). Did he drug her or was it when she was drunk. If not how would someone not wake up.
RabbleRouser2k wrote: » The guy will forever be known as a rapist-he's pretty much doomed for life. Yes, he may have gotten off lightly, but I think if he had been a more violent rapist, he wouldn't have...and as I say that, I find myself cringing, tbh. MAinly cos I know it to be true. But then again, the courts tend to be jerks to rape victims, to say the least. Whether an adult or a child-branding someone a rapist/ paedo by courts seems to be enough-but a long sentence is what victims want, not a branding. .
RabbleRouser2k wrote: » Yep, but also proves that the UCD200 was so full of crap that LoN should be ashamed. Her main articles have become a lot 'tamer' in recent times-possibly because her recent articles have been even worse written than before, leading to the twitterati condemning her. Possibly had her medication changed too (speculation, yes, but then again, I do know her own mental health problems are well documented. So her recent articles before now have been rather ranty). IT just goes to show that even the 'most hidden' pages are easily discovered.
TheDavester wrote: » My mother and sisters despise her when she pops up on tv or they see her articles in the paper
The_Kew_Tour wrote: » Just a question. Why is it they hate her? It seems more women are seeing through her (thankfully), but I be interested to know why. Id like to think its because they can see both sides of the coin and have common sense.
homerjay2005 wrote: » its a horrible term, disgusting term in fact. and from my observations, the culture she refers to is more of an issue for woman against men than the other way around. but again, wouldnt expect Louise to ever even contemplate that a woman would dare do anything wrong.
neonsofa wrote: » Yep, the fact he is branded a rapist is purely just a statement of fact, not a punishment in itself.
TheDavester wrote: » Her articles becoming tamer, I believe is due to the fact she's having a new book out soon, and probably her PR /Agent told her to knock it off, she was told a few months back to knock off the I hate men off her tagline by the TV producers after Niall Boylan I think pointed out and it seems she bothers a lot of females too....My mother and sisters despise her when she pops up on tv or they see her articles in the paper
RabbleRouser2k wrote: » No, it is not a punishment-but that label will stay with him for life. I would argue even a killer would be forgiven far quicker-look how the late late invited John Gilligan on their show. Would they invite Larry Murphy so quickly? Both have served their sentences, both are unrepentant. But one crime carries far more public disgust, than the other. A rapist will carry a label for life-that is a punishment he should carry for life. A rapist is irredeemable. Someone who takes a life-there could be a number of circumstances surrounding it-a fight that got out of hand, drunk drive, heat of the moment, trying to stop them hurting a loved one etc-things that will be forgiven. There are no circumstances where one can say 'oh, I accidentally raped her/ him'. A thief, a violent assault-those are all forgiven far quicker. I know some friends of mine who fell off the wayward path in their lives. One got into vandalism (luckily avoided drink and drugs. Never touched either, mainly because everyone in his school did them. And a brother got heavy into drugs) but he was lucky, turned his life around. He was in secondary school at the time, did his LC, did a Fetac after it, and then got a degree in college. He was lucky too, because even in court, folks saw he wasn't a bad apple. Just a bit lost. .
