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Cameo wrote: »

I don't see your point - expressing concerns about something means saying everyone should be wrapped in bubble wrap? Man, this has struck a nerve for you.

What has that got to do with paying for sex?

Yes, it means exactly that. Let people live their own lives, enough of the nanny state policies, we are at the top already. Proven that it doesn't work, that's why people emigrate where they can live their own lives without interferencs from the government in every little thing such as abortion. Yes we are literally the only country in Europe thy bans abortion due to the fact that it's ''immoral'' forget that people's lives are ruined and that the world is already overpopulated and you are forcing people to have children after accidentaly breeding.

Johnboner wrote: »

So tell me when you invite a girl for a date who pays? Don't tell me what you would do, tell me what's the ''social norm''

I don't know what others do. When we go to say, the cinema, he'll pay for tickets and I'll buy the sweets and popcorn and drinks. We go on a night out, we are rarely alone (rounds if we are) pay for ourselves if out with others. Dinner, nights away, depends who plans it. He'll pay for it sometimes, I'll pay for it sometimes. I go shopping and see shirts/tops/jeans/ties he would like, I'll buy them. Hecaees me eyeing up something online, he'll surprise me with it.

I can't speak for social norms, just norms for relationships I've been in

Johnboner wrote:

So you are paying for her part as well, interpret it however you want, it doesn't change the meaning.

What? No. We split the rent. How is that paying someone else's share? Also, telling that you went with "her" there, since I did say I have had boyfriends as well...

bodice ripper wrote: »

Sharing living expenses isn't paying for things for someone else. The clue is in the word sharing...

So you are paying for her part as well, interpret it however you want, it doesn't change the meaning.

Johnboner wrote: »

''There are negatives to the work, as have been highlighted by actual people working in the industry - now they did have a choice, and nobody is saying all the men are abusive (most aren't of course) but that doesn't mean there aren't concerns. Moreso relating to streetwalkers than "high class" escorts to be fair though.''

You are saying there are concerns. I have said that there are concerns with absolutely everything you do in life such as driving a car, walking down the street at night, or doing anything at all as everything has risks and concerns. In order to minimize the risk everything should be banned and everyone should be wrapped in bubble wrap, otherwise go to prison.

I don't see your point - expressing concerns about something means saying everyone should be wrapped in bubble wrap? Man, this has struck a nerve for you.

Johnboner wrote: »

Are you living together and sharing the expenses? Or are you just paying for everything on your own and your gf/bf the same?

What has that got to do with paying for sex?

LexieOnRale wrote: »

I think you need better girlfriends mate

So tell me when you invite a girl for a date who pays? Don't tell me what you would do, tell me what's the ''social norm''

Johnboner wrote:

Are you living together and sharing the expenses? Or are you just paying for everything on your own and your gf/bf the same?

Sharing living expenses isn't paying for things for someone else. The clue is in the word sharing...

bodice ripper wrote: »

Nope. That's you doing that. No one pays for my dinner etc, I don't pay for theirs.

I think that's how it's like in most grown up relationships. I know within my own relationship he'll get dinner tonight and I'll get it the next night. We have date night once a week usually and take it in turns to the the cost. I'd hate to think a man could think he could buy me.

Johnboner wrote: »

Right if you say so, come back here when you grow up.

I think you're the one that needs to grow up.

And calm down - sheesh.

If you choose to pay for loads of stuff for a woman you're seeing/if she's a demanding diva who expects this, that is YOUR individual relationship, not "us all".

You have literally no reason to doubt bodice ripper's statement that they don't pay for lots of things for their partner.

Nor do you have reason to doubt that plenty of people don't pay for sex. Your resentful outlook does not speak for everyone.

bodice ripper wrote: »

I am 35. I have had girlfriends and boyfriends. I pay my own way.

Are you living together and sharing the expenses? Or are you just paying for everything on your own and your gf/bf the same?

Cameo wrote: »

Genie mac, talk about the ultimate in misinterpreting a post and just blurting out the first thing that enters your head. Calm down lad and actually read stuff.

No of course driving a car shouldn't be banned because of some dangerous drivers - not that I even implied prostitution should be banned.

''There are negatives to the work, as have been highlighted by actual people working in the industry - now they did have a choice, and nobody is saying all the men are abusive (most aren't of course) but that doesn't mean there aren't concerns. Moreso relating to streetwalkers than "high class" escorts to be fair though.''

You are saying there are concerns. I have said that there are concerns with absolutely everything you do in life such as driving a car, walking down the street at night, or doing anything at all as everything has risks and concerns. In order to minimize the risk everything should be banned and everyone should be wrapped in bubble wrap, otherwise go to prison.

Donal55

Five day old thread.
Was the OP banged up or is he locked up?

Johnboner wrote: »

Yes we are, tell me how are we not?? That is illogical, where you have a girlfriend you pay for so many things so what are you talking about?

I think you need better girlfriends mate

Johnboner wrote:

Right if you say so, come back here when you grow up.

I am 35. I have had girlfriends and boyfriends. I pay my own way.

bodice ripper wrote: »

Nope. That's you doing that. No one pays for my dinner etc, I don't pay for theirs.

Right if you say so, come back here when you grow up.

Johnboner wrote: »

Why be a street walker which is illegal instead of somewhere like escort Ireland which is legal? Driving a car is dangerous too so it should be banned because people are dying!!!

Genie mac, talk about the ultimate in misinterpreting a post and just blurting out the first thing that enters your head. Calm down lad and actually read stuff.

No of course driving a car shouldn't be banned because of some dangerous drivers - not that I even implied prostitution should be banned.

Johnboner wrote:

Yes we are, tell me how are we not?? That is illogical, where you have a girlfriend you pay for so many things so what are you talking about?

Nope. That's you doing that. No one pays for my dinner etc, I don't pay for theirs.

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Probably less chance of an STD from an escort than a one night stand from Coppers

I was being sarcastic because getting STD from a prostitute is as much likely as to get it from anyone else, probably less likely due to protection.

bodice ripper wrote: »

I get so tired of the "we all pay for it one way or the other" ****e. No we don't. I am sorry you are screwing or attempting to screw jerks. I am sorry you subscribe to an antiquated model of gender roles.

Yes we are, tell me how are we not?? That is illogical, where you have a girlfriend you pay for so many things so what are you talking about?

I get so tired of the "we all pay for it one way or the other" ****e. No we don't. I am sorry you are screwing or attempting to screw jerks. I am sorry you subscribe to an antiquated model of gender roles.

Cameo wrote: »

Why do you really doubt anyone cares about their opinion? You've absolutely no cause to have such doubt.

Why such defensiveness from some here over a negative opinion regarding prostitution? Nerve being jarred?

I don't totally agree with ceadaoin (although ratings, ew - that's just an opinion by the way, don't get upset! ) but how they could be likened to e.g. the nuns in Ruhama is beyond me.

There are negatives to the work, as have been highlighted by actual people working in the industry - now they did have a choice, and nobody is saying all the men are abusive (most aren't of course) but that doesn't mean there aren't concerns. Moreso relating to streetwalkers than "high class" escorts to be fair though.

Why be a street walker which is illegal instead of somewhere like escort Ireland which is legal? Driving a car is dangerous too so it should be banned because people are dying!!!

The_Valeyard

Johnboner wrote: »

Everyone that goes to prostitutes gets STD 100% of the time. And where did you get that it's illegal to go to prostitutes? It is LEGAL to pay for sex in Ireland so you can freely go to all the escorts you want without breaking the law. Another misinformed person spreading false information.

Probably less chance of an STD from an escort than a one night stand from Coppers

professore wrote: »

I'm sure It's like everything else - some women ( and gay men) are making a ton of money out of it, some are being exploited, and everything in between. Since the current law treats all prostitutes as victims needing help, and all John's as perverts, and has made their product illegal to buy, they have created an ideal setup for crooked cops to take advantage of them as they can turn off and on their business at will. Also created a blackmailers paradise for the pimps.

Having sex with trafficked women has been illegal since 2003. Keeping a brothel is illegal. The laws were already there. I really can't see how it's better for the prostitutes now than it was before. All that will happen is that less men will go to prostitutes, and the ones that still do will be the violent criminal sort.

I find it ironic that a married man or woman can go out at the weekend and have sex with several people, get an STD, go home, infect their partner, is not a committing a crime, while another single guy pays a prostitute, has safe sex with her she's happy to see him, is respectful and friendly to her, and he's a criminal?

This law is purely a moral law, like the blasphemy law. Nothing to do with helping prostitutes. It's a moral judgement on male sexuality by the radical feminist lobby. The fact it also affects gay men, lesbians and some straight women is collateral damage.

Everyone that goes to prostitutes gets STD 100% of the time. And where did you get that it's illegal to go to prostitutes? It is LEGAL to pay for sex in Ireland so you can freely go to all the escorts you want without breaking the law. Another misinformed person spreading false information.

What if you marry a "slut"? Is that the wife lotto

Johnboner wrote: »

I really doubt anyone cares about your absolutely uniformed and biased opinion. Facts prove otherwise. Please don't spread fake information.

Why do you really doubt anyone cares about their opinion? You've absolutely no cause to have such doubt.

Why such defensiveness from some here over a negative opinion regarding prostitution? Nerve being jarred?

I don't totally agree with ceadaoin (although ratings, ew - that's just an opinion by the way, don't get upset!

) but how they could be likened to e.g. the nuns in Ruhama is beyond me.

There are negatives to the work, as have been highlighted by actual people working in the industry - now they did have a choice, and nobody is saying all the men are abusive (most aren't of course) but that doesn't mean there aren't concerns. Moreso relating to streetwalkers than "high class" escorts to be fair though.

currants

ScumLord wrote: »

I'd be in favour of legalisation because it's way worse when it's illegal. But I think there needs to some caution and support in place for people that go into that line of work. It would be easy for a person to become dependant on this big money coming in to the point that temporary job becomes more and more difficult to leave. It's often a job for the young and beautiful neither of which will last, so people in this line of work could end up either leaving the profession with no alternative skills, or descending into the weirder parts of the industry because they're finding it harder to attract normal clients.

That's it really. What happens if you get out of the game and settle down with somebody and you go out some night and meet one of your former "clients". how do you explain that to your husband? How many men who admit to using prostitutes would admit being married to a prostitute? There is a stigma there forever and anyone who denies that is either very foolish or has an agenda. And that's only for the non-addict girls who manage their work themselves. Anyone working for a pimp or working because they're addicted is being exploited right off the bat. This cosy picture of prostitution as a career choice for strong beautiful women is only applicable in a tiny minority of cases. In any documentaries I've seen the women were all miserable in one way or another. Who could honestly say they'd welcome some social misfit or flash twit that thinks everything can be bought and sold groping them and worse.

professore

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

I'm 50/50 on how to view the prostitution thing. On one hand if some bloke wants to pay a woman for sex then who cares.
But then on the other hand prostitution is a seedy and fu*ked up world. It's like what it seems on paper then what it actually is in reality.

I'm sure if some escort was to come onto this thread she'd make it out as if it was an "experience" - you meet a guy, make him comfortable, offer him a drink or a massage, make him climax etc. Like it was a day out at the spa :pac:
Reality is.... It's come in, shoot your load, get out and next one in. then the drugs, std's, many an escort getting beat up over the years. Really is a seedy and messed up thing.

I'm sure It's like everything else - some women ( and gay men) are making a ton of money out of it, some are being exploited, and everything in between. Since the current law treats all prostitutes as victims needing help, and all John's as perverts, and has made their product illegal to buy, they have created an ideal setup for crooked cops to take advantage of them as they can turn off and on their business at will. Also created a blackmailers paradise for the pimps.

Having sex with trafficked women has been illegal since 2003. Keeping a brothel is illegal. The laws were already there. I really can't see how it's better for the prostitutes now than it was before. All that will happen is that less men will go to prostitutes, and the ones that still do will be the violent criminal sort.

I find it ironic that a married man or woman can go out at the weekend and have sex with several people, get an STD, go home, infect their partner, is not a committing a crime, while another single guy pays a prostitute, has safe sex with her she's happy to see him, is respectful and friendly to her, and he's a criminal?

This law is purely a moral law, like the blasphemy law. Nothing to do with helping prostitutes. It's a moral judgement on male sexuality by the radical feminist lobby. The fact it also affects gay men, lesbians and some straight women is collateral damage.

somesoldiers

LexieOnRale wrote: »

I love that you can rate them!
Location
Value for money
As described

I used to enjoy reading these, "Not a clock watcher" is a favourite of mine. It's like Trip Advisor for hookers.

I remember years back our local pub got wifi but had a kiddie lock on it. The lads couldn't understand why the were searching for Escorts Ireland and all that was coming up were second hand cars!