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Official Conor McGregor thread (part 3) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

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The last thread was nearing the 10k post limit so here's part 3.

The same rules as the last thread apply here. People seem to have strong opinions either way when it comes to McGregor and threads here tend to get a bit heated from time to time. Please keep it civil and discuss all things Conor in a mature way.

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Any "Do you even train Bro?" or "I'm an mma fan longer than you" type posts are not permitted either. They only make you look like a fool and as a result, everyone hates you. Yes everyone.

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Lads consider this the one and only warning - big fight with a lot of hype around it. It brings new fans to the forum as well as the regulars so try and get along. Any trolling or nonsense and people will find themselves on a break from the forum and that applies to everyone.

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hewhoscares

Mellor wrote: »

callaway92 wrote: »

It would be the biggest selling UFC PPV of all time easily. 2 Million + buys.

It probably would be 2million buys. Biggest PPV of all time.

But Conor vrs 155 challenger does and easy 1.5 million buys,
And GSP vrs Anyone does easy 1 million buys.

Splitting McGregor and GSP onto separate PPVs does more buys than loading them onto one card and following up with a weak PPV somewhere.

Conor Vs Anyone does 1.5m buys - easily? he didn't even sell that many in his last fight
GSP does over 1m easily? he's only ever sold over 1m when piggybacked with Brock Lesnar and his fanbase.

And the whole PPV buy rate you lot take as golden is bull****. The Meltzer guy's forecasts have been proven to be inaccurate, the buyer document passed around when Zuffa where selling had actual true recent numbers - Meltzer had to adjust his recent figures to the tune of a couple of hundred thousand. The same as he had to when Overeem went to court and the true PPV numbers came out for his Lesnar fight.

Thats not to belittle McGregor as he's obviously a draw. But his numbers are greatly exaggerated on here.A fight with Mayweather would be huge, but don't get ahead of ourselves - no way does it make the anywhere near same money as the Pac fight.

Its Floyds way of keeping himself in the limelight and the nearest McGregor has to leverage with the UFC.

bmcc10

Offthewildride wrote: »

When has Conor ever submitted or wrestled someone?

He is far too reliant on one attribute to be considered elite.

That's complete bulls**t tbh

Mellor

callaway92 wrote: »

It would be the biggest selling UFC PPV of all time easily. 2 Million + buys.

It probably would be 2million buys. Biggest PPV of all time.

But Conor vrs 155 challenger does and easy 1.5 million buys,
And GSP vrs Anyone does easy 1 million buys.

Splitting McGregor and GSP onto separate PPVs does more buys than loading them onto one card and following up with a weak PPV somewhere.

Mellor

red ears wrote: »

He hasn't defended any of his belts yet and that is not acceptable.

He only has one belt, it's been less than 4 month. That's a normal time frame.
Cormier has defended since November 2015.

ScumLord wrote: »

I wonder are they pulling GSP out of retirement to tempt McGregor back to MMA?

They (the UFC) aren't pulling GSP out of retirement. They have no control over that tbh.
GSP indicated his desire to return a long time ago, his retirement was only ever really a hiatus. He's been in contract negotiations for the best part of a year.

bmcc10 wrote: »

Is GSP really that much of a draw against Conor? Most of the McGregors fans would not have seen GSP before don't really think makes much of a diffrence who he fights,

GSP isn't there to draw in the McGregor fans, who'll tune in for Conor. He's there to draw in the GSP fans. Same reason Nate Diaz pulled in more than Aldo vrs Conor, different fanbase.

GSP was a huge draw in Canada back in the day. Sold out huge venues instantly.

wonderfullife

EagererBeaver wrote: »

I wouldn't be so sure about 2 million buys. UFC 205 was supposed to be a cert to do 2 million and only pulled in 1.3m.

It was also 4 days after Donald got elected and roughly 140 million Americans were contemplating sitting in their car, putting on Radioheads greatest hits and lodging a brick in their exhaust pipe.

I don't think it'd have done 2 million, in hindsight, but I do believe a lot of people decided to get blind drunk instead of buying the PPV. I could see it having done 1.5m - 1.7m in any other month.

EagererBeaver

callaway92 wrote: »

It would be the biggest selling UFC PPV of all time easily. 2 Million + buys.

I wouldn't be so sure about 2 million buys. UFC 205 was supposed to be a cert to do 2 million and only pulled in 1.3m.

mdwexford

Offthewildride wrote: »

Conor is a good fighter, not an elite fighter.

Lol

Edit - just realised this is the glass chin guy. Moving on.

Gamebred

Offthewildride wrote: »

When has Conor ever submitted or wrestled someone?

He is far too reliant on one attribute to be considered elite.

I know your fishing but he won his first world title via submission.

Offthewildride

Easy Rod wrote: »

Ha.

When has Conor ever submitted or wrestled someone?

He is far too reliant on one attribute to be considered elite.

Easy Rod

Offthewildride wrote: »

Conor is a good fighter, not an elite fighter.

Ha.

Offthewildride

Depp wrote: »

so because conor ''cares about his image'' he isnt an ''elite'' fighter...

dont be ridiculous

Conor is a good fighter, not an elite fighter.

Depp

Offthewildride wrote: »

Conor cares more about his image. Which is his right.

GSP is an animal, would wrestle Conor and tap him out at ease. GSP is an elite level fighter

so because conor ''cares about his image'' he isnt an ''elite'' fighter...

dont be ridiculous

Offthewildride

Depp wrote: »

not sure if this is serious?

Conor cares more about his image. Which is his right.

GSP is an animal, would wrestle Conor and tap him out at ease. GSP is an elite level fighter

mdwexford

red ears wrote: »

Losing to gsp wouldn't be a big deal. Losing the defense of his belt would be a very big deal.

Losing to anyone ain't good.

As regards still having a big title fight even if he loses to Georges it's good financially. Still not a cop out moving up weight to fight the greatest fighter of all time.

Depp

Offthewildride wrote: »

Oh come on. GSP would destroy Conor. GSP has this passion for training which Conor does not have.

Compare their two instagrans for instance

not sure if this is serious?

Offthewildride

Oh come on. GSP would destroy Conor. GSP has this passion for training which Conor does not have.

Compare their two instagrans for instance

red ears

mdwexford wrote: »

How is taking on tougher opposition a cop out.

Sure it's holding up the division and arguably devaluing the belt but it's certainly not a cop out or easy option.

Losing to gsp wouldn't be a big deal. Losing the defense of his belt would be a very big deal.

callaway92

bmcc10 wrote: »

Is GSP really that much of a draw against Conor? Most of the McGregors fans would not have seen GSP before don't really think makes much of a diffrence who he fights, You'd have to expect UFC to really push GSP though try to get another much needed draw.

It would be the biggest selling UFC PPV of all time easily. 2 Million + buys.

bmcc10

Is GSP really that much of a draw against Conor? Most of the McGregors fans would not have seen GSP before don't really think makes much of a diffrence who he fights, You'd have to expect UFC to really push GSP though try to get another much needed draw.

mdwexford

red ears wrote: »

A fight against gsp would be a cop out. Conor needs to fight the winner of Ferguson Khabib next to have any credibility for the sport. He hasn't defended any of his belts yet and that is not acceptable. A nonsense fight against Floyd is one thing but to come back to the UFC and fight anyone other than Khabib or Ferguson is a farce.

How is taking on tougher opposition a cop out.

Sure it's holding up the division and arguably devaluing the belt but it's certainly not a cop out or easy option.

hewhoscares

Seen someone suggest before that Kavanagh will be getting 7 figure paydays from a McGregor fight as though he's getting paid 10-15% of his fight purse. No chance.

Will be doing very well out of the deal - and wouldn't be surprised if McGregor has sorted 'the team' out but his pay will be capped

ScumLord

I wonder are they pulling GSP out of retirement to tempt McGregor back to MMA? That would be a fight I'd like to see, it would be a proper fight too, not the money making racket that the fight with Mayweather would be.

Gamb!t

EagererBeaver wrote: »

It would be anything but. I don't think the fight should be made either but going up against a (presumably still) elite, bigger, stronger man who happens to be one of the GOATs is hardly a cop out.

Plenty of "ring rust" there,he hasnt fought in the UFC in over 3 years.

EagererBeaver

red ears wrote: »

A fight against gsp would be a cop out.

It would be anything but. I don't think the fight should be made either but going up against a (presumably still) elite, bigger, stronger man who happens to be one of the GOATs is hardly a cop out.

red ears

A fight against gsp would be a cop out. Conor needs to fight the winner of Ferguson Khabib next to have any credibility for the sport. He hasn't defended any of his belts yet and that is not acceptable. A nonsense fight against Floyd is one thing but to come back to the UFC and fight anyone other than Khabib or Ferguson is a farce.

XsApollo

wonderfullife wrote: »

I think Conor v GSP is a 2018 fight (if it happens).

GSP will take on Woodley/Wonderboy first, I imagine, and then if he wins surely the UFC put all their eggs in the Conor v GSP basket.

It ticks all the boxes.

Genuine superfight.
Chance for Conor to make history in 3 weight divisions.
Massive PPV.
If Conor loses, still can claim he's rightful champ at 155/145.

GSP will still have to get past the winner (which I think will be Woodley) but he's more than capable of doing so. Probably favourite to do so.

Well Connor needs to fight to be called champ.
He ain't the 145 champ anymore.
He probably won't defend the 155 either next by the looks of it.
So hopefully they pull that belt off him too and he can run around saying he is the 2 weight champ without any belts.
It will get old pretty fast.
Plenty of guys to fight at 155, that's what he should be at.

Mellor

wonderfullife wrote: »

GSP will take on Woodley/Wonderboy first, I imagine,

Maia gonna get screwed, imo

wonderfullife

I think Conor v GSP is a 2018 fight (if it happens).

GSP will take on Woodley/Wonderboy first, I imagine, and then if he wins surely the UFC put all their eggs in the Conor v GSP basket.

It ticks all the boxes.

Genuine superfight.
Chance for Conor to make history in 3 weight divisions.
Massive PPV.
If Conor loses, still can claim he's rightful champ at 155/145.

GSP will still have to get past the winner (which I think will be Woodley) but he's more than capable of doing so. Probably favourite to do so.

Johnboner

Conor will get obliterated against Mayweather due to the fact that it will be a boxing match and boxing is Mayweathers game.

Mellor

callaway92 wrote: »

Conor would be delighted to fight it at 170lbs

Conor was happy to take on Nate at 170 because he didn't perceive him as a threat,
And because Nate was, for the last number of years , fighting at LW.
The rematch was 170 because he wanted everything to be the same as the loss.

He'll have a very different opinion of GSP imo. He's not an overblown LW chilling out at WW. He's the a solid WW, who's probably spent a lot of his retirement in the gym.

Depp wrote: »

inb4 the ''gsp is too big for conor'' posts

I'm not sure what that pic proves, it looks like GSP is slightly bigger, as in 1 division bigger.

Conor said after the Alvarez loss that "if you want to come after him you better have some attributes, size, height, reach...if you come in as an equal i'll take your head off"
Or words to that effect.

GSP is slightly taller, slightly bigger and has a longer reach. He's also a better grappler.
The GSP and Mayweather fights are very different.