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Backlash for RTE for Gilligan invite.

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Rte is taking a bit of flack for inviting John Gilligan on as a guest. Understandable as the fella is an out and out murdering prick. Not a bad way to spice up the show though. Can a show that has become dull and sterile be blamed for trying to get a bit of it's edge back and for once not rely on the Rte canteen to fill it's guest slots?

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mikeoneilly

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

Give them a real close up look at him though.

Or give him the opportunity to shape our opinion of him..

It's a bad idea imo

Dirty Dingus McGee

mikeoneilly wrote: »

Or give him the opportunity to shape our opinion of him..

It's a bad idea imo

Get a good interviewer (bring back Pat Kenny perhaps) and he'd tear him to shreds.

I don't think there is anything he could do to get anyone to feel any sympathy for him.Might actually make him look a hell of a lot worse (if that's possible) by trying to justify what he has done.

mickmac76

Giving air time to criminals like John Gilligan is just plain wrong. I'd be much more interested in an interview with some of the victims of his crimes. Besides Tubridy is woeful and will say nothing to him.

infogiver

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

Because it will almost certainly get massive viewership. That's all TV shows care about.

Public executions would get massive viewership, that doesn't mean that broadcasting them is the right thing to do.
This is the worst type of car crash TV, glorifying a murdering cowardly bully and giving the impression to the young pretenders that you can live the life that he chose to live and still end up being given celebrity recognition on a celebrity talk show. I hope the researcher is fired and never works in the media again.

[Deleted User]

infogiver wrote: »

Public executions would get massive viewership, that doesn't mean that broadcasting them is the right thing to do.
This is the worst type of car crash TV, glorifying a murdering cowardly bully and giving the impression to the young pretenders that you can live the life that he chose to live and still end up being given celebrity recognition on a celebrity talk show. I hope the researcher is fired and never works in the media again.

Keep hoping. It won't happen. It'll be a massive ratings draw and I'm sure half the people on here bemoaning it will be among those watching.

infogiver

Omackeral wrote: »

Keep hoping. It won't happen. It'll be a massive ratings draw and I'm sure half the people on here bemoaning it will be among those watching.

Not me. I have no idea why anyone wants to hear the musings of an illiterate psycho.
It makes me sad to think that anyone actually does.
When you think about him even beating the **** out of V Guerin the day she went out to his house, and how many others did he beat the crap out of, and much worse, and some jobsworth at RTÉ thinks he'd make a good guest?
Anyone who sits down to watch him, and doesn't change channels and make a complaint to RTE is a toe rag themselves IMO.

Yamanoto

They should invite him on to Today with Daithi & Maire - Little John's horoscope corner or an outside broadcast slot called Gilligan's island.

Noddyholder

infogiver wrote: »

Not me. I have no idea why anyone wants to hear the musings of an illiterate psycho.
It makes me sad to think that anyone actually does.
When you think about him even beating the **** out of V Guerin the day she went out to his house, and how many others did he beat the crap out of, and much worse, and some jobsworth at RTÉ thinks he'd make a good guest?
Anyone who sits down to watch him, and doesn't change channels and make a complaint to RTE is a toe rag themselves IMO.

How do you figure that out ?? So if you look at someone on TV who you despise Your as bad as them or in your words a tow rag, I take it you don't watch TV at all so.

A Little Pony

Gerry Adams and Mcguinness appeared on the Late Late show, so why not this guy?

infogiver

Noddyholder wrote: »

How do you figure that out ?? So if you look at someone on TV who you despise Your as bad as them or in your words a tow rag, I take it you don't watch TV at all so.

If you sit there watching and listening and don't think it's entirely inappropriate to give air time to someone who has murdered and terrorised and cost the Irish tax payer millions of €s then you must be a toss pot yourself. Simples.

[Deleted User]

infogiver wrote: »

Not me. I have no idea why anyone wants to hear the musings of an illiterate psycho.
It makes me sad to think that anyone actually does.
When you think about him even beating the **** out of V Guerin the day she went out to his house, and how many others did he beat the crap out of, and much worse, and some jobsworth at RTÉ thinks he'd make a good guest?
Anyone who sits down to watch him,and doesn't change channels and make a complaint to RTE is a toe rag themselves IMO.

:pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:

Noddyholder

A Little Pony wrote: »

Gerry Adams and Mcguinness appeared on the Late Late show, so why not this guy?

Ah now no matter what you think of there actions,they were involved in a conflict in a very influential way and both are/were elected by the people to represent them.

What did you think of Michael stone on it & do you think JG should be on it ?

[Deleted User]

Hope you never watched Goodfellas infogiver. Or Zodiac. Or any other movie/programme/documentary that featured a criminal.

A Little Pony

Noddyholder wrote: »

A Little Pony wrote: »

Gerry Adams and Mcguinness appeared on the Late Late show, so why not this guy?

Ah now no matter what you think of there actions,they were involved in a conflict in a very influential way and both are/were elected by the people to represent them.

What did you think of Michael stone on it & do you think JG should be on it ?

Michael Stone was on the late late show? Killing people is killing people, no other way to put it. And besides, it makes it interesting. Controversial topics and lunatics is what makes great television. You watch to be informed and entertained surely?

infogiver

A Little Pony wrote: »

Gerry Adams and Mcguinness appeared on the Late Late show, so why not this guy?

Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness are democratically elected public representatives.
Whatever my own public opinion of them,enough citizens approve of them to have appointed them to public office.
Gilligan is universally held in total contempt. He has dragged his "case" through every possible court in the country and been found to have no grounds for complaint whatsoever.
Why do we have to give him further opportunity to peddle his lies on the national broadcaster?

Noddyholder

infogiver wrote: »

If you sit there watching and listening and don't think it's entirely inappropriate to give air time to someone who has murdered and terrorised and cost the Irish tax payer millions of €s then you must be a toss pot yourself. Simples.

simples is you lad, there are lots of people on TV who i don't agree with and might even despise, but yes I will listen to them & here what they have to say.

[Deleted User]

infogiver wrote: »

If you sit there watching and listening and don't think it's entirely inappropriate to give air time to someone who has murdered and terrorised and cost the Irish tax payer millions of €s then you must be a toss pot yourself. Simples.

Conversely, if you say 'simples' you must be a tosspot.

Banana Republican

A Little Pony wrote: »

Gerry Adams and Mcguinness appeared on the Late Late show, so why not this guy?

3/10. Must try harder.

infogiver

Omackeral wrote: »

Hope you never watched Goodfellas infogiver. Or Zodiac. Or any other movie/programme/documentary that featured a criminal.

Goodfellas is a fictional film omackeral. When your watching Goodfellas you know (or at least you should know) that these are characters who don't exist.
Do you realise that Gilligan beat up and murdered a real person? A person who had a husband and a child and real family and friends who loved her?
How will they feel if he is allowed to come on TV now 20 years later?

James Bond Junior

infogiver wrote: »

Goodfellas is a fictional film omackeral. When your watching Goodfellas you know (or at least you should know) that these are characters who don't exist.
Do you realise that Gilligan beat up and murdered a real person? A person who had a husband and a child and real family and friends who loved her?
How will they feel if he is allowed to come on TV now 20 years later?

Goodfellas was based in the true story of mobster Henry hill.

infogiver

Noddyholder wrote: »

simples is you lad, there are lots of people on TV who i don't agree with and might even despise, but yes I will listen to them & here what they have to say.

So you don't think Gilligan has already had his say? And you think it's appropriate that a cowardly woman beater and murderer be presented as entertainment when family, including the son he left motherless, and friends of the woman he murdered and beat up are still trying to deal with the loss of her?

infogiver

James Bond Junior wrote: »

Goodfellas was based in the true story of mobster Henry hill.

So you don't think there's any difference between a fictional representation of historic criminal activities and bringing John Gilligan on the LLS?

Harry Palmr

Inviting criminals on to normalise their actions is the risk - there are plenty of gullible fools slumped in front of the LLS every week.

Yamanoto

infogiver wrote: »

Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness are democratically elected public representatives.

Adams wasn't an elected public representative in this jurisdiction when he first appeared on the LLS. He too would have been considered an absolute pariah by a great many viewers at the time.

[Deleted User]

infogiver wrote: »

Anyone who sits down to watch him, and doesn't change channels and make a complaint to RTE is a toe rag themselves IMO.

Anyone who makes a complaint to RTE is a loon.

Noddyholder

infogiver wrote: »

Goodfellas is a fictional film omackeral. When your watching Goodfellas you know (or at least you should know) that these are characters who don't exist.

It is a film adaptation of the 1986 non-fiction book Wiseguy by Nicholas Pileggi, who co-wrote the screenplay with Scorsese. The film narrates the rise and fall of mob associate Henry Hill (the first-person narrator in the film) and his friends over a period from 1955 to 1980.

[Deleted User]

infogiver wrote: »

Goodfellas is a fictional film omackeral. When your watching Goodfellas you know (or at least you should know) that these are characters who don't exist.

James Bond Junior wrote: »

Goodfellas was based in the true story of mobster Henry hill.

My favourite bit is the bolded portion. Your username is a misnomer.

Noddyholder

infogiver wrote: »

So you don't think Gilligan has already had his say? And you think it's appropriate that a cowardly woman beater and murderer be presented as entertainment when family, including the son he left motherless, and friends of the woman he murdered and beat up are still trying to deal with the loss of her?

What are you trying to twist words for ? Your the one calling anyone who would look at it a towrag, And yet you think goodfellas is fiction, suppose you think casino is fiction to ?

[Deleted User]

infogiver wrote: »

So you don't think there's any difference between a fictional representation of historic criminal activities and bringing John Gilligan on the LLS?

Actual serial killers have been interviewed too. It gives an insight into how their mind works. Why be so close minded? Yes he's a scum bag, but there's a chance it could be interesting. True crime is a massive genre is motion picture and literature. Not everyone who consumes it or is interested in it is a slack jawed yokel or a scum bag.

Noddyholder

Yamanoto wrote: »

Adams wasn't an elected public representative in this jurisdiction when he first appeared on the LLS. He too would have been considered an absolute pariah by a great many viewers at the time.

Well I not sure about the viewers, but certainly by the main stream media and even the host Gay byrne who would not shake his hand before or after the show, and it all backfired badly as it made GA look like the good person & the rest like ignorant gob****es.