Cameo wrote: » A few pulls off a joint is more potent than a glass of beer or stout.
Parchment wrote: » I would think its totally dependant on the person.
thesultan wrote: » I agree with him. There is no harm in having two points and driving homebin rural areas.single men crying out for company in rural Ireland
Parchment wrote: » Yes my judgement is coloured by a close friend being killed by a drunk driver but i dont believe its made me irrational in my views on the subject.
12gauge dave wrote: » I was pulled over and arrested for drink driving last year i wasnt much over somehow ill admit i had about 8 cans of bulmers i got 6months and 400euro fine i didnt have to go court it was a fixed penalty. It was something ive only done a couple of times i got caught it wasnt a great experience to be honest and made getting to work a nightmare for those 6months as i live in rural ireland. I havent drank drive since but nearly have been tempted so many times as it is still so akward in real rural ireland to get a taxi you could be waiting for 3hours on a saturday night.
One_Of_Shanks wrote: » 8 cans. What time did you stop drinking at? Or how many hours after you stopped drinking were you still over limit at when doing the urine test? Just curious coz lots of people were asking in this thread about how long etc. Were ya stopped the next morning?
Graces7 wrote: » ..why do single men feel they have to drink to get company?
12gauge dave wrote: » I was stopped about 4am give and take. The breathlyser in local garda station was broken and doctor must of taken about half hour or so for urine test so since my last drink and urine test im guessing about 2-2.5hours. I was suprised for being not too far over as to not worthy a court case. Im a male in twenties and weight is 16stone.
One_Of_Shanks wrote: » Fair balls for replying man, that's mad that you were not too far over the limit after that amount at 4am. Suppose yer bit of extra poundage (no offence) probably helped. Cudda been worse!! Good on ya for posting about it after being done. And no thats not anyone glorifying anything before anyone gets their knickers in a twist. Was only asking about time/drinks. Also fair dues for giving up the sauce.
12gauge dave wrote: » No offence dont worry:)ha Ya i dont condone what ive done in any shape way of form. When uve seen your father doing it growing up when you see your friends doing it i guess i thought it was okay in some sense my insurance is a nightmare now so im being punished dont worry. Real rural villages with rural pubs in the middle of nowhere with no taxi services or buses provide much bigger challenges as far as drink driving is concerned to those in the likes of dublin but we are all equal citizens of the same law and none of us are above it so no no one should drink and drive for what ever reasons.
Divelment wrote: » Drive past any suburban pub in Dublin any night of the week and guess what, the car park is packed full of cars!
blackbox wrote: » They don't need to change the law. They need to enforce the laws they have. I've been driving for 40 years and been breathalyzed 3 times (always passed btw). It's the lunatics who have had a bottle of vodka or 10 pints they need to be going after - and people who are already banned from driving. These are completely different to someone who is under 80mg. The penalty needs to be proportionate to the behavior. .
Parchment wrote: » I see many fair points in this post but i still abhor drink driving in any shape or form. I do see where some of you are coming from but the bottom line for me personally is not understanding why people can just opt not to drink when driving. Its not that hard. Would you just take a few pulls off a joint if you were going to drive & hope it was ok? I just cant reconcile it. Yes my judgement is coloured by a close friend being killed by a drunk driver but i dont believe its made me irrational in my views on the subject.
Graces7 wrote: » thesultan wrote: » I agree with him. There is no harm in having two points and driving homebin rural areas.single men crying out for company in rural Ireland Ah Healy Rae enters the scene..why do single men feel they have to drink to get company?
ABC101 wrote: » Grace, drinking is not solely the preserve of men. Many many women drink as well. Ever tried talking to a barman / bouncer about women and drink and they will tell you they can be just as bad as men, sometimes worse. I know a few women who would drink many a man under the table. Life has become much more stressful, a lot of jobs are becoming high Pressure working environments, crap pay, zero hour contracts, temporary employment, seasonal payments, pressure of saving for retirement etc.People can take to alcohol / recreational drugs to unwind and help themselves relax, humans are human and humans are prone to vices. Sure the person who drinks two bottles of wine a night and is back in their car at 8 am is at high risk of an accident, but we should not allow a situation develop where people are getting their lives destroyed because they had one glass of wine with a meal and then drove about 40 minutes later.There has to be a sense of proportion here.
Graces7 wrote: » ? re women I mean. No; there has to be a strict rule that is respected. For the very reason you say. And that applies to prescription meds too Fine to drink or use illegal drugs, but not fine to drive when other lives are at risk. Drink at home by all means. But not when you are driving. Or driving early the next day. And maybe you need to be at a police ID when someone is facing their loved one mangled by a driver who swore he had not touched a drop. Deeply thankful for the new laws. A great step forward. Over and out from me on this. Takes a lot to make me weep . And not at the memories but at the "let us be reasonable " attitude.
Sue Pa Key Pa wrote: » More new laws without the manpower to enforce them. Why can't we just detect and convict on the existing laws we have now? That would go a long way to sorting the problem
Graces7 wrote: » ABC101 wrote: » Grace, drinking is not solely the preserve of men. Many many women drink as well. Ever tried talking to a barman / bouncer about women and drink and they will tell you they can be just as bad as men, sometimes worse. I know a few women who would drink many a man under the table. Life has become much more stressful, a lot of jobs are becoming high Pressure working environments, crap pay, zero hour contracts, temporary employment, seasonal payments, pressure of saving for retirement etc.People can take to alcohol / recreational drugs to unwind and help themselves relax, humans are human and humans are prone to vices. Sure the person who drinks two bottles of wine a night and is back in their car at 8 am is at high risk of an accident, but we should not allow a situation develop where people are getting their lives destroyed because they had one glass of wine with a meal and then drove about 40 minutes later.There has to be a sense of proportion here. ? re women I mean. No; there has to be a strict rule that is respected. For the very reason you say. And that applies to prescription meds too Fine to drink or use illegal drugs, but not fine to drive when other lives are at risk.Drink at home by all means. But not when you are driving. Or driving early the next day. And maybe you need to be at a police ID when someone is facing their loved one mangled by a driver who swore he had not touched a drop. Deeply thankful for the new laws. A great step forward. Over and out from me on this. Takes a lot to make me weep . And not at the memories but at the "let us be reasonable " attitude.
ABC101 wrote: » Graces7, Nobody here has advocated driving and drinking at the same time. Nobody on this forum / thread has advocated chugging from a open bottle of wine in the car whilst driving down the N7 to Nass, or anywhere else for that matter.
Sonics2k wrote: » I've had several friends die over the years as a result of drunk drivers. Each one of those absolute bastards said something like "Sure I've only had one or two drinks" and they effectively murdered my friends. IMO drink driving should get you in jail for 3 months.
Allinall wrote: » ABC101 wrote: » Graces7, Nobody here has advocated driving and drinking at the same time. Nobody on this forum / thread has advocated chugging from a open bottle of wine in the car whilst driving down the N7 to Nass, or anywhere else for that matter. Most disengenuous post of the thread. Well done.
ABC101 wrote: » You mean there is a poster advocating driving and chugging beer at the same time?