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Is it too early to spread 10-10-20

johnnyw20

I'm a bit of a newbie to spreading fertiliser. I've 25 acres to put a bag and half of 10-10-20 out in. With the weather warming up this week would it be a good time to spread it or is it too early in the year still?

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Reggie.

Username John wrote: »

Ah - sure I pose I should buy a bigger farm too while I'm at it...

I'm happy enough with my little farm, and my little tractor and my little spreader....

Don't I lose money quick enough with them

Yeah put there are ways for ya to lose money quicker

Green farmer

Mild weather on the way over the next few days. Warm air from Florida apparently.

Bass Reeves

Lads that have fertlizer out are begining to benefit from it. It takes about 10 days from spreading fertlizer to it begining to work. Lads that spread in early February will really benefit from it over next two weeks. I hope to go again around March 1st with 18-20 units of N/ acre. Will hope to turn out cattle late next week.

johnnyw20

I've seen some growth from urea. I ran out of urea in one field and missed a small patch. You can really see some difference in it. Mine went out on the 19th of January and was well worth it. Just need to decide now am I brave enough to go out with 10-10-20 next week if the weather holds. Have a couple of index 1 fields which need a boost

Bass Reeves

You need 2 dry days after spreading for fertlizer to get into ground. This prevents it from getting washed away in wet weather. Weather looks dry over next few days where I am. Watch forecast and get it out ASAP. With ground being g so warm N will work even on old pastures if P&K are anyway right. It will not grow grass in the bag

jack o shea

Has anyone purchased fert in the last Week? Is it still going up in price by the Hour?

IH784man

10 acres that hasn't seen fertiliser in god knows,don't want to do a soil sample but would 18-6-12 be a good general fertiliser for it? Grazing only

freedominacup

IH784man wrote: »

10 acres that hasn't seen fertiliser in god knows,don't want to do a soil sample but would 18-6-12 be a good general fertiliser for it? Grazing only

Soil sample is around the same price as the bag of fert. The second best return on soil fertility after lime. Why not sample. If there's nothing in it, spun out conacre ground why leave anything behind you. Soil sample and you'll know exactly what to apply for your needs.

rangler1

freedominacup wrote: »

Soil sample is around the same price as the bag of fert. The second best return on soil fertility after lime. Why not sample. If there's nothing in it, spun out conacre ground why leave anything behind you. Soil sample and you'll know exactly what to apply for your needs.

I was at a farm walk yesterday where they were giving out advice on fertiliser and advising to put 1.5 bags of 18 6 12 to the acre if you weren't sure of fertility or low index.
they also said that grazing would use that much P and K in the year so yu'd be unlikely to 'leave anything behind you'.
I must say that years ago I always used 18 6 12 on rented land at the start of the year and always pleased with he response, i even use it now here after letting my soil indexes drop after thinking that grazing wouldn't need much P and K

jack o shea

Is 18 6 12 a kind of safe option? Any idea of price on it?

johnnyw20

Strongly thinking of going out with 2 ton of 18-6-12 this afternoon. Land is perfectly travelable here so might take a chance. Weather looks good for the next few days. Only a couple of light showers forecast

Have 15 bags of gran lime too that need spreading so might go with them first

TPF2012

johnnyw20 wrote:

Have 15 bags of gran lime too that need spreading so might go with them first

Go with the lime first, will give the lime more time to increase the soil ph, thus giving you a better response when you apply the Npk.

johnnyw20

TPF2012 wrote: »

Go with the lime first, will give the lime more time to increase the soil ph, thus giving you a better response when you apply the Npk.

Lime is going out in a couple of paddocks that are bare so will wait for a bit of cover before I go with NPK

First time I am spreading gran lime so hopefully I can get some sort of result from it. Don't see the point in getting a contractor out to spread just over 5 acres

pedigree 6

johnnyw20 wrote: »

Strongly thinking of going out with 2 ton of 18-6-12 this afternoon. Land is perfectly travelable here so might take a chance. Weather looks good for the next few days. Only a couple of light showers forecast

Have 15 bags of gran lime too that need spreading so might go with them first

Spread the gran lime and the 18.6.12 both today.
It won't make no difference either way.
Should have been spread by right a month ago.
Time is money at this stage.

TPF2012

johnnyw20 wrote:

First time I am spreading gran lime so hopefully I can get some sort of result from it. Don't see the point in getting a contractor out to spread just over 5 acres

I did the same last year on a 5 acre field put 20 bags of lime in it, nothing else. I think I got the same growth as putting out the equivalent in 18 6 12 as I had done in years previously.
The gran lime is messy enough to spread, fierce dust off it.

Green farmer

How dry would you want the ground before spreading compounds ? Waiting to get stuff out here

Also spread gran lime last year, but got full ground lime job done recently. Got the guy to bring "dulled" stuff, found gran lime to be dustier then full job.

I said

Green farmer wrote: »

How dry would you want the ground before spreading compounds ? Waiting to get stuff out here

Also spread gran lime last year, but got full ground lime job done recently. Got the guy to bring "dulled" stuff, found gran lime to be dustier then full job.

Every place is different,teagasc would have the whole country covered in fert by 1st week of February regardless of soil type and weather conditions.Do what ya think is right for your self

pedigree 6

Green farmer wrote: »

How dry would you want the ground before spreading compounds ? Waiting to get stuff out here

Also spread gran lime last year, but got full ground lime job done recently. Got the guy to bring "dulled" stuff, found gran lime to be dustier then full job.

If you're not leaving a rut in the field with the tractor, SPREAD.

Username John

Green farmer wrote: »

How dry would you want the ground before spreading compounds ? Waiting to get stuff out here

Also spread gran lime last year, but got full ground lime job done recently. Got the guy to bring "dulled" stuff, found gran lime to be dustier then full job.

If I can get time, I'm going to go out with some 18-6-12 at the weekend if I have time.
The forecast isnt too bad, and I only have Saturdays to play with...

johnnyw20

Got my fertiliser out today. Ground has dried up a lot over the past few days. Hopefully I'll get a good response now. Weather looks great

Found the gran lime very dusty as was mentioned. I kinda like the idea of it so hopefully I'll get a return from it.

farawaygrass

Something I have been wondering-say you go with a bag to the acre of 27-2.5.5 instead of 24-2.5-10, so you are putting out 3 extra units of nitrogen to the acre. Would there be much of a difference in grass growth to them 3 extra units? I realise there is a difference in the k but I'm just wondering about the n.

Bass Reeves

farawaygrass wrote: »

Something I have been wondering-say you go with a bag to the acre of 27-2.5.5 instead of 24-2.5-10, so you are putting out 3 extra units of nitrogen to the acre. Would there be much of a difference in grass growth to them 3 extra units? I realise there is a difference in the k but I'm just wondering about the n.

You hardly notice it , this time of year if your P&k is ok I be going with urea, while it takes slightly longer to work it is more rain fast than CAN products. As well! It is the cheapest / unit of N. On the two above is there any difference in price because if they're the same I price I nearly go with the higherP&k. In general I find that the low P&k blend's are poor value for money. If spreading P&k I go for 18-6-12 other than that straight N. My fertlizer requirements for the year are 4.5 ton of Urea, 2T Can, 4 ton 18-6-12 and 2-4 ton of gran lime. Would generally have a bit left over. This year I have bought no granlime as I have 2Ton in stock.

The Cuban

How much are ye paying for the Gran lime? I thought that it was too expensive to spread?

Green farmer

Username John wrote: »

If I can get time, I'm going to go out with some 18-6-12 at the weekend if I have time.
The forecast isnt too bad, and I only have Saturdays to play with...

Plan on doing the same in the morning if weather permits. Just in the door here. temperature reading 12 degrees in jeep. Not bad for the middle of the night .

Reggie.

Green farmer wrote: »

Plan on doing the same in the morning if weather permits. Just in the door here. temperature reading 12 degrees in jeep. Not bad for the middle of the night .

Yeah shocking mild for the last few days

davidk1394

farawaygrass wrote: »

Something I have been wondering-say you go with a bag to the acre of 27-2.5.5 instead of 24-2.5-10, so you are putting out 3 extra units of nitrogen to the acre. Would there be much of a difference in grass growth to them 3 extra units? I realise there is a difference in the k but I'm just wondering about the n.

Went out with it yesterday and covered around 50 acres. Have a nice grass cover built up since grazing the fields November. The reason we went with it was the fields are in index 2 for P&K and there won't be a big demand on the grass until the 2nd week of April

Username John

Got out my few bags of 18-6-12 out... savage day for it... the whole country seemed to putting out fertiliser...

Who2

Username John wrote: »

Got out my few bags of 18-6-12 out... savage day for it... the whole country seemed to putting out fertiliser...

Not after the rain we got last night. Bad night and brutal morning but dried up later in the day.

Username John

Who2 wrote: »

Not after the rain we got last night. Bad night and brutal morning but dried up later in the day.

We got no rain last night, and have a savage day...

But rain wouldn't have mattered - my boots didn't mark the ground at all when I was spreading with the bucket