Andersonisgod wrote: » Love it when, on a match day, the CL thread becomes about a team aren't in the CL and haven't been in the knockout stages in years.
ArmaniJeanss wrote: » Good chance the intended meaning of the headline is more subtle and nuanced than your simple direct translation.
iroced wrote: » Well you said it all, Ibra left. As great and skillful a player he is, Ibra is a nemesis for the collective play of the teams he plays for. Too much ego kills it.
bucketybuck wrote: » Yet United have scored markedly less goals than their rivals and have struggled with taking chances all season to the point that it is the major reason they are not comfortably in the top four. Its not a popular view because Zlatans personal goal record is good, but I believe there is an issue there and it is not insignificant.
The Talking Bread wrote: » Have you been watching United lately? Yes he can be selfish, but not so much that it destroys the balance of teamwork. Not all the time!
iroced wrote: » klose wrote: » Some upturn in cavani for psg since ibra left, jaysus there were times he couldn't hit a barn door for em. Well you said it all, Ibra left. As great and skillful a player he is, Ibra is a nemesis for the collective play of the teams he plays for. Too much ego kills it.
klose wrote: » Some upturn in cavani for psg since ibra left, jaysus there were times he couldn't hit a barn door for em.
Jan_de_Bakker wrote: » "THIS IS NOT THE BARCA" Oh shut the f*ck up !! just admit it when ye were outplayed and outclassed ... they are lucky they didn't lose 8-0 ffs!! Bunch of frauds...
iroced wrote: » Yeah but that's only looking at the Barça side of the game. PSG did not show anything this season to let us imagine such thrashing. Even their 2 good games against Arsenal, they were naive and lacked efficiency. Eeven in L1 they just had 1 win against the top sides (Monaco, Nice, Lyon, Marseille). They were doing better lately but L1 standard. So for such a high intensity display coupled with cold blood finish tonight to happen was quite some stretch. In a way, I'd have rather backed Monaco who are solid at the back and scoring for fun in L1 than PSG to have such a game.
The Golden Miller wrote: » Well we've seen Barca hammered before. Same with Bayern in their first season trying to play tiki-taka. Same with Spain. The win was predictable since Barca are well below their best and the manner they play in, easy to counter. PSG were always going to set up in one way, which isn't how they normally play, so it made them look world beaters. A good defence like Juve or Monaco could just as easily do to them what they did to Barca tonight, when the onus is on PSG to bring the game to the opposition ( I suspect a strong counter attacking team will win it this year, probably Juve, but possibly Monaco or Atletico). Of course, any exact result is not predictable, I just didn't think it was surprising in the least considering we've seen below par tiki-taka teams ripped apart on the counter before.
The Golden Miller wrote: » Well we've seen Barca hammered before. Same with Bayern in their first season trying to play tiki-taka. Same with Spain. The win was predictable since Barca are well below their best and the manner they play in, easy to counter. The result not surprising, hence the "predictable enough" comment. Of course, any exact result is not predictable
iroced wrote: » It's the "predictable enough" part I do not agree with considering it ended 4-0 for PSG. Predictable win why not. But not predictable 4-0 .
The Golden Miller wrote: » Shanotheslayer wrote: » I'm sure you've a beautiful betting slip to back this up because PSG were a very generous price :rolleyes: https://gyazo.com/934d772fee1cc77afdb646b65746d6ab. Granted, I had both to score, but it was to be expected PSG would win
Shanotheslayer wrote: » I'm sure you've a beautiful betting slip to back this up because PSG were a very generous price :rolleyes:
The Golden Miller wrote: » The result flattered PSG tonight. PSG are no Bayern circa 2013, but it didn't need a great team to do to Barca what Bayern done to them before, and what Madrid did to Bayern a year later. I said a few months back on this thread that Barca would struggle big time if they didn't vastly improve and clearly they haven't. Only for Messi they would be even further behind in La Liga. Until they get their act together they are an easy team to play at the moment. Sit back and hit them on the counter while man marking Messi. It's all sideways passing and blunt attacks with no tempo, intent or penetration. Football is always cyclical, and Barca's troughs and peaks will be greater than anyone else's due to how they play
The Golden Miller wrote: » Predictable enough result in the PSG-Barca game tonight.
iroced wrote: » No. No one expected nor predicted this result beforehand. And no one could have guessed it. If you've watched just a couple of PSG latest games in L1 you'd see it as obvious as it is. PSG is no Bayern too. They're a team in reconstruction with Emery and it clicked on with green lights everywhere tonight for the first time ever.
The Golden Miller wrote: » Predictable enough result in the PSG-Barca game tonight. Barca haven't been at the races all season. To play in the manner they do and win a Champions League it has to be 10/10 every time at this level. A drop off in intensity, ball possession and penetration while playing that brand of football and teams playing that style become more vulnerable than most. We seen it in 2013 against Bayern, and in turn happened to Bayern against Madrid. And happened to Spain
Pighead wrote: » You'd have to ask why PSG aren't running away with the French league when you see a performance like that. They've been pretty patchy this season.
KaiserGunner wrote: » As an Arsenal fan PSG have been by far the best team that we have played all season, don't know how they didn't beat us in the two games. So to see them destroy a team like Barcelona is pretty impressive. It's credit to the French league that they aren't running away with it. Just shows how good Monaco are as well, will be a very tough game for Man City in that tie.
Pighead wrote: » Your commentary this season doesn't support the claim that you haven't been enjoying the football Barca play. You have been glowing in your praise of them and when they lose you haven't criticised the manager or players. Instead you've been banging on about foul play and an agenda at play by officials to halt Barca in their tracks. Tonight is pretty much the first time all season you've said the football is poor and the manager is out of his depth.
