Who asked the British to 'protect' our airspace from the Russians or anyone else ?

Don't forget all the Drones, Been loads of occasions. Obama visit, Queen, NI with the G8 and alike. Was it not reaper and protector drones.

To be fair lads... there is a harrier parked at the back of someone's house in meath if we ever need it..

bear1 wrote: »

To be fair lads... there is a harrier parked at the back of someone's house in meath if we ever need it..

There's a buccaneer painted in desert camo in Weston airfield

We're up to 2 jets

Gatling wrote: »

There's a buccaneer painted in desert camo in Weston airfield

We're up to 2 jets

Where did we get that?
I just did a check on the planes the air corps have had.
We had vampire jets which had a top speed of almost 900kph.
Then we had fouga magisters which had a speed of over 700 and a near 1k range.
the pc9s..... just over 500.
Why they felt the need to drop half the speed and ditch jet propulsion I don't know.
If they insist on keeping old looking planes could they not simply reinstate the vampires and fougas?
Surely it wouldn't cost too much to get them back to service.
Mind you the fougas haven't been used since 98.

bear1 wrote: »

Where did we get that?

It's privately owned former RAF I believe ,
Dropping jets for turbo props was all about cost and reliability ,
You could buy a preowned fighter for a million but add in maintaining and fuel and parts and training your adding 10+ million per yer per aircraft (im open to correction on that )

This country doesn't like spending on defense and the military equipment

If we reduced our foreign aid then maybe it would be doable.

bear1 wrote: »

If we reduced our foreign aid then maybe it would be doable.

First place I would start considering its been used by some countries to boost their own military capabilities.

topmanamillion

We cant even protect our own fish stocks from Spanish fishing boats, I wouldn't hold out much hope for us against one of the worlds largest armies.

Gatling wrote: »

First place I would start considering its been used by some countries to boost their own military capabilities.

Ha, Did some land locked country not buy Naval jets in Africa ? With our money.

topmanamillion

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Ha, Did some land locked country not buy Naval jets in Africa ? With our money.

It was Uganda.
They paid it back to Ireland. Seeing as it was the Ugandans themselves that flagged it up I`d no issue with it.
I do have an issue with us giving aid to a country that wanted to impose the death penalty for homosexuality but made do with life in prison instead.

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Ha, Did some land locked country not buy Naval jets in Africa ? With our money.

Yeah ,

Maybe its time to introduce a trocraire appeal in schools for the aircorp ,
The get us Jets appeal

Meanwhile in Uganda

MiG-21 Soviet Union fighter (5)
Sukhoi Su-30 Russia multirole Su-30MKK (8) 4 on order
Transport
Cessna 208 United States utility /surveillance 2 donated by the U.S.
Helicopters
Bell 206 United States utility 7
Huey II United States multirole 5 donated by the US
Mil Mi-17 Russia utility 10
Mil Mi-24 Russia attack Mi-35 6
Trainer Aircraft
Aero L-39 Czech Republic jet trainer 6
SF.260 Italy trainer 4

Gatling wrote: »

Yeah ,

Maybe its time to introduce a trocraire appeal in schools for the aircorp ,
The get us Jets appeal

Meanwhile in Uganda

MiG-21 Soviet Union fighter (5)
Sukhoi Su-30 Russia multirole Su-30MKK (8) 4 on order
Transport
Cessna 208 United States utility /surveillance 2 donated by the U.S.
Helicopters
Bell 206 United States utility 7
Huey II United States multirole 5 donated by the US
Mil Mi-17 Russia utility 10
Mil Mi-24 Russia attack Mi-35 6
Trainer Aircraft
Aero L-39 Czech Republic jet trainer 6
SF.260 Italy trainer 4

We sent them something like 64m did we not. The same year they spent what 740m on military hardware.

darkpagandeath wrote: »

We sent them something like 64m did we not. The same year they spent what 740m on military hardware.

They apparently repaid the government 4 million ,
5 times bigger than Ireland and yet we're financially supporting them ,

Can we have the Su-30MKK2 Flanker we paid for instead

Gatling wrote: »

They apparently repaid the government 4 million ,
5 times bigger than Ireland and yet we're financially supporting them ,

Can we have the Su-30MKK2 Flanker we paid for instead

Better than a raptor with all it's problems including lack of oxygen.

Junkyard Tom

Kinda weird that Irish people masturbate furiously to this whole NATO v Russia thing. Oddballs.

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Kinda weird that Irish people masturbate furiously to this whole NATO v Russia thing. Oddballs.

Is it a porno?

Noddyholder

Don't know why we cant stand up & be part of NATO or some sort of European air defence Battalion ? We could have French, Germany Belgian air squadrons here, & will the brits still protect our sky's when they pull out of bretix ?

This playing the neutral card is a joke imo, especially as when you chk out that we were neutral on one side of the war only.

LordSutch

Noddyholder wrote: »

Don't know why we cant stand up & be part of NATO or some sort of European air defence Battalion ? We could have French, Germany Belgian air squadrons here, & will the brits still protect our sky's when they pull out of bretix ?

This playing the neutral card is a joke imo, especially as when you chk out that we were neutral on one side of the war only.

We should have bought all the old RAF Harriers when they sold them off a few years ago. They could have done everything, from landing on trawlers to attacking suspicious drug carrying yachts! ...cool

PS How's Dave Hill?

Noddyholder

LordSutch wrote: »

We should have bought all the old RAF Harriers when they sold them off a few years ago. They could have done everything, from landing on trawlers to attacking suspicious drug carrying yachts! ...cool

PS How's Dave Hill?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Hill

For those of you Younger folk, Noddy holder was the lead singer of Slade, You can here me sing every Christmas...

Back on topic, yes LS we should have but the successive Irish government's would rather dig there heads in the sand over this & let the Brits do the minding.

There is no way we could afford fighter jets with the maintence etc etc & God forbid if we crashed one, it would bankrupt us.

LordSutch wrote: »

We should have bought all the old RAF Harriers when they sold them off a few years ago. They could have done everything, from landing on trawlers to attacking suspicious drug carrying yachts! ...cool

PS How's Dave Hill?

It's only a matter of time before the government has little choice but to go back to jet propulsion.
Playing the we've no money card won't an excuse once the pc9 become beyond obsolete.