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The great Irish land grab

Mr. FoggPatches

Just been listening to two of, what I can only describe as, the biggest f*ckwits on the radio discussing how Waterford county will be annexing part of south Kilkenny to accommodate Waterford city.
The Kilkenny TD/councillor/farmer spoke of identity, pride, land grabs, war and so forth while the other guy lorded it over him while still retaining the audio presence of someone that lives on expenses and has egg on his tie

In order to get a better quality of debate going, I ask you, the good patrons of ah, what you think of this debacle

I think the only way to smooth things out is for the Waterford folk to hold a feast, with turkeys, and invite all the Kilkenny folk.

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RobertKK

lertsnim wrote: »

What difference does it make to anyone who controls what part. Is it all about hurling?

It comes down to money at the end of the day.

lertsnim

RobertKK wrote: »

It comes down to money at the end of the day.

So no difference to regular Joe or Mary who go to work every day and pay their taxes?

RobertKK

lertsnim wrote: »

So no difference to regular Joe or Mary who go to work every day and pay their taxes?

It would mean that their would be an income shortage for Kilkenny county council, and it would mean a cutback on services the council provides for the regular Joe or Mary in Kilkenny who go to work every day and pay their taxes.

It would also mean why should a county bother investing in border areas of counties if the neighbour can simply look to annex it.
So for people in border areas of counties they might have the council less willing to invest money from the money it receives from businesses and the people of the county if they risk losing something they invested many millions in.
A transfer will mean businesses or the people of Kilkenny will need to pay more to the council to make up a deficit that would be needlessly created for Kilkenny.

CalamariFritti

RobertKK wrote: »

Waterford want some of South Kilkenny so they can get Belview port which brings in a lot of revenue for Kilkenny.

Basically it is aby Waterford so they instead of Kilkenny make the money from Belview Port.

http://www.kilkennypeople.ie/news/home/204543/Port-at-Belview-is-the-real.html
It is Waterford being greedy and jealous of what is not theirs to have. They didn't want to spend anything on the setting up of the port via a partnership, but they want it all for nothing now.

Just out of curiosity I quickly skimmed through the proposal and the rebuttal and the most recent RTE article on the matter and something doesn't seem to add up.

Thee is a map drawn on the 'area of interest' which doesn't seem to come near that port afaik and the RTE article on the proposal states "It is recommended that the port at Belview stay in Co Kilkenny."

Am I wrong, am I misreading? Or are some people getting overly excited and exaggerating the thing?

Teebor15

RobertKK wrote: »

It would mean that their would be an income shortage for Kilkenny county council, and it would mean a cutback on services the council provides for the regular Joe or Mary in Kilkenny who go to work every day and pay their taxes.

So the income deficit for Kilkenny would come from losing the money from the affected area. But if the affected area is no longer part of Kilkenny then they don't need the money to spend on the area, Waterford will have to provide for it.

Or are you saying Kilkenny is using the money from that area to spend in the rest of the county. Is Ferrybank just a cashcow for Kilkenny to spend elsewhere as it certainly doesnt look like they spend it on anything in the area

Tornaxx

I hate when people bring things back to American stuff, but I will (for once). Isn't most of Kansas City in Missouri? Only a fraction of it is over the border in the state of Kansas. Would Waterford city, Co. Kilkenny be objected to (if it weren't for the money going to different city/county councils)?

RobertKK wrote: »

A transfer will mean businesses or the people of Kilkenny will need to pay more to the council to make up a deficit that would be needlessly created for Kilkenny.

I know this isn't the point, but wouldn't it mean that Kilkenny wouldn't have as much expenditure also? (Okay, it mightn't be the same value but it wouldn't be as if they'd be spending the same but getting less. Probably spending less but not receiving even more.)

DanielODonnell wrote: »

Has anyone ever visited those places? I don't think I could point Kilkenny out on a map

I think that says more about you than anything...

maudgonner

DanielODonnell wrote: »

Has anyone ever visited those places? I don't think I could point Kilkenny out on a map

You really should learn to read. 'Cause they write the placenames right there on the maps. Makes it so much easier.