degsie wrote: » Let's have a 10 page discussion on undertaking shall we? :rolleyes:
CaptainR wrote: » Better than cyclists to be fair.
Boom_Bap wrote: » It bothers everyone, but sticking to the rules of the road is important with middle lane hoggers. If you are in L1 and undertake, they may decide to get in L1 all of a sudden, if they hit you, you are at fault as you are undertaking.
Traffic in both lanes is moving slowly but traffic in the left-hand lane is moving more quickly than the right-hand lane – for example, in slow moving stop/start traffic conditions
irishgeo wrote: » the rules of the road state you can undertake.
prinzeugen wrote: » Again, can you prove that motorists are 100% directly responsible for these 200 odd deaths?
prinzeugen wrote: » No you can't. And cyclists do kill people. 6 cases last year in the UK and 600+ maimed by cyclists.
valoren wrote: » I know. It's those who simply walk onto the crossing without even looking around.
mud wrote: » I can't fecking stand drivers who take it upon themselves to punish other drivers for some perceived fault in their driving. For example tail-gating or putting on high beams to teach someone a lesson. It is a huge turn-off and a massive reflection on their personalities.
mud wrote: » I also have to reverse into my space at home which means indicating early, pulling right in to the ditch and waiting for any following cars to overtake safely before I make my manoeuvre. I put on the handbrake and go into reverse gear so that they can see that I'm doing something rather than just chilling by the side of the road for the craic! Still, the amount of drivers who just sit on my bumper waiting for no good reason is astonishing.
MadDog76 wrote: » How many exactly?
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LordSutch wrote: » May I suggest that you should put on your 'hazards' which, when (combined with your reversing lights) will let those on your bumper know that you're about to reverse!
AndrewJRenko wrote: » Who else would be responsible? One motorist crashes into another motorist or cyclist or pedestrian - so one or other motorist is responsible - typically speeding or on the phone or after a few pints perhaps. There are a small number of cases where someone else is to blame, like the drunk who fell asleep on the road and was run over, or the drunk cyclist who road onto the M1 and got hit - but by and large, a motorist is responsible for each death. Unless you have another hypothesis? The more interesting question would be why are you so desperate to avoid motorists being held accountable for the death toll they cause on our roads? Source please? I understood that it was 1 or 2 a year in the UK, but perhaps you have a more recent source. I'd be interested in your source of (and definition of ) maiming too. Yes, I accept that a tiny number of pedestrians are killed by cyclists in the UK, and possibly in other countries. The fact remains that the last time it happened here in Ireland was 2003, and thousands of people have been killed by motorists in the meantime. Ah here, my WhatsApp conversation is important. You don't expect me to take my eyes off it and look up for a few seconds, do you?
LordSutch wrote: » Most of the time I just accept bad & dangerous driving, and usually I will let anything go and just accept that some drivers are stupid. But then again, if I'm tired or if I've been driving for a long time and some dip stick just sits in the overtaking lane, then I will give him the 'full beams' and a little horn too, until he wakes up and moves over
Pinch Flat wrote: » Swan necking. So you're driving along, car a few cars in front turns left. The tool immediately behind him swerves right to get around him, rather than waiting the couple of seconds to allow him complete the left turn. The amount of head on collisions I've witnessed with this manoeuvre is unreal.
Pinch Flat wrote: » I apologise. "Unreal" is not a quantifiable number. I'll keep a little diary and report back in a few weeks. Can't do any fairer than that.
Jack the Stripper wrote: » Cyclists with the flashing headlights, they have no consideration for users that have photosensitive epilepsy.
Danjamin1 wrote: » Genuine question - is it legal to drive a car if you have photosensitive epilepsy? There's a woman I work with who has recently been diagnosed with epilepsy & as a result she can no longer drive. The flashing light is to draw attention so you'll be noticed btw.
granturismo wrote: » Those lights will be noticed if they are left on constantly rather than flashing. I'm not photosensitive but some flashing cycle lights are like mini strobes. Some bicycle lights are angled too high, catching the sightline of oncoming drivers.
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