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Nintendo Switch (Nintendo's next console)

Tipsy McSwagger

http://kotaku.com/nintendos-next-console-is-code-named-the-nintendo-nx-1691867268

"As proof that Nintendo maintains strong enthusiasm for the dedicated game system business", Iwata adds, "let me confirm that Nintendo is currently developing a dedicated game platform with a brand new concept under the development codename 'NX'."

And...that's it. Iwata says Nintendo will share more information about the new hardware "next year".

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sligeach

mayordenis wrote: »

I'm sorry that you feel victimised, but that doesn't mean the likes of businessinsider, idigitaltimes and other such nonsense are worthy of being read.

The article is dumb, they start out harping on about capcom and show a screen from SF2, the same SF2 that is getting a port to the switch, they neatly forget the slew of capcom games that are on the the 3DS, in fact they forget the 3DS altogether.

'More problematic is that the Switch isn't as powerful as the Xbox One and PlayStation 4.'

Like I'm sorry but if you write this and consider yourself a journalist you are one of 2 things; delusional or a fraud. It's so far from viable to fit an xbox one or ps4 into a ****ing tablet. Just insanity.

'If you wanted to play the latest "Call of Duty" game in the last decade, there were few chances to do that on Nintendo's consoles. That also applies to other major franchises, from "Grand Theft Auto" to "Mass Effect" to "Assassin's Creed."'

Is that what anyone wants? Is that what you would want Sligeach? If Nintendo trotted out a simple equivalent to the Xbox One and Ps4 just with Nintendo branding we'd have the same amazing exciting market as exists between lets say Budweiser, Heineken and Carlsberg.

'they arrived later and looked less impressive.'

Who gives a ****? We can just apply the same logic from PC to consoles and just be done with the whole thing.

'And that's a problem when Nintendo's competition, Microsoft's Xbox One and Sony's PlayStation 4, have enormous game libraries, cost less, and are more powerful.'

Yea man day 1 lets match the game libraries of several year old consoles, while we're at it, my own steam library is 423 games deep (and I would say that is pretty reasonable compared to some here), lets match that day 1.

'During a recent investor Q&A, the question of third-party support for the Switch came up. Shinya Takahashi, a Nintendo director, offered an answer that doesn't exactly instill confidence:

"Nintendo will keep on creating unique software. By doing so, I believe we will encourage third-party developers to create a number of quality software titles for Nintendo Switch."

Right.

Nintendo's argument largely boils down to "We'll lead by example, and hopefully third-party developers will follow."'

You'd swear that was the answer he gave to the question, but this is actually completely ****ing deceitful 'journalism', lets have a quick look at some more of what Takahashi said in his repsonse:

'For our previous game platforms, creating our own development tools was a high priority for us. However, since the start of Nintendo Switch development we have been aiming to realize an environment in which a variety of different third-party developers are able to easily develop compatible software, such as by making it compatible with Unreal and Unity as well as our own development tools. As a result, even companies with only a few developers have already started making games for Nintendo Switch. The development of Snipperclips ‐ Cut it out, together! started with one such small team.
Since last year, we have introduced Nintendo Switch to a variety of different development companies by demonstrating software such as 1-2-Switch. At each demonstration, everyone was interested in the new play styles. During our recent (January 13) Nintendo Switch presentation, we played a video message from the creator of Skyrim, Mr. Todd Howard of Bethesda Game Studios, in which he shared the genuine impression he had already given us
when we first showed him Nintendo Switch.'

Then an only then those he write the final line, the final sentence the only one this 'journalist' used, taken out of context as though it existed on it's own, I actually started this rant thinking 'hey, it's just ****ty clickbait' but now it's actually pretty clear that the writer is trying to deceive.

You know Miyamoto was also in the same interview and he had some **** to say too:

'In addition, third-party developers who are making software for PC can now easily adapt that software to work on our platform. In the current development environment, Iʼd say that it would take less than a year for them to port a PC game to Nintendo Switch'

anyway back to the article at hand;

'To be clear, some games from third-party software makers are coming to the Switch. They're mostly games from years ago, rereleased on the Switch. That includes "The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim," which originally launched in 2011, and "Disgaea 5," which originally launched in 2015.'

So those are 2 games announced thus far, is 2 games = most?

'These are not the type of third-party games I referred to earlier — the "Assassin's Creed"s and "Call of Duty"s and "Fallout"s of the world are what matter nowadays when it comes to third-party support.'

I genuinely don't know anyone who gives a **** about those games anymore, people are fatigued with the same old ****, certainly AC and CoD. Fallout maybe, Fallout 3 and 4 are both gigantic sprawling world which people have invested hundreds of hours into, I'm not sure what demand exactly exists for Fallout 5 right now.

Anyway long story, not short, Sligeach it's not a personal attack but these articles bother me, they are redundant opinion pieces pretending to be something more. I get that you feel betrayed by Nintendo, they are a ****ing mental company but I think you have become inflicted with a myopia that no longer allows you to be rational with regards any of their products.

I don't feel victimised. I told you that that article was full of tripe. Some of them are for a laugh, some make good points. But they are out there and some people will be reading them.

sligeach

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Pro Evo 2017/18 would do the trick for a lot of people!
Perhaps Konami would be more willing to bring a more recent engine to bear, instead of taking the cheap last gen option that EA seem to have done.

If the Wii versions of PES are anything to go by, then Konami are just as bad as EA. And they skipped the Wii U with PES, not just that but I don't think they made any Wii U game at all.

magnumbud

deadl0ck wrote: »

Well, I just pre-ordered mine from Amazon a couple of days ago.
I went with Zelda and Bomberman as my initial games.
I think that 1-2 Switch would be fun, but at that price I'm not willing to take the punt. Wii Sports was good for a while back in the day, and did attract a lot of non gamers to have a go (my parents for example), and I think 1-2 would be the same - but the "newfanglement" was short lived with Wii sports, and I think this will be gathering dust within a week or so after purchase.

same games im going with, only picked up 1 2 switch as part of the 10 pound off on amazon a few weeks ago as it was about what i could justify bringing it to 30 pounds if i split the 10 pounds off as 5 off that and 5 off the charging grip also had 8 pounds remaining on a one for all so adding that its 26 really :P . showed the video from the presentation to my gf and she said they look like fun and figure people with a similarly low interest in mainstream games will have the same reaction.

Star Lord

1-2, Switch seems to me to be the kind of game you'd take out to have a quick laugh with, put it away again, and never play it again.

deadl0ck

Well, I just pre-ordered mine from Amazon a couple of days ago.
I went with Zelda and Bomberman as my initial games.
I think that 1-2 Switch would be fun, but at that price I'm not willing to take the punt. Wii Sports was good for a while back in the day, and did attract a lot of non gamers to have a go (my parents for example), and I think 1-2 would be the same - but the "newfanglement" was short lived with Wii sports, and I think this will be gathering dust within a week or so after purchase.

Creamy Goodness

Corholio wrote: »

He also mentioned they have "way more" Switch games in development.

That won't be here for launch? re-cancelling my pre-order :pac:.

Corholio

President of Nicalis, developer of Binding of Isaac, talking about the Switch:

“The Switch is, by far the easiest and most programmer friendly so far,” he said. “I know this sounds like lip service to Nintendo, but it’s actually not. If this wasn’t true, we wouldn’t be able to get these games up and running as quickly as we have, and we wouldn’t be able to have a launch title. It’s light years ahead of what we were doing with Wii U.”

He also mentioned they have "way more" Switch games in development.

[Deleted User]

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Pro Evo 2017/18 would do the trick for a lot of people!
Perhaps Konami would be more willing to bring a more recent engine to bear, instead of taking the cheap last gen option that EA seem to have done.

Good shout, was one if not the only Wii game that I actually liked using the nunchuk with...

If FIFA is as fully fledged as it's Xbox and PS4 counterparts then that could really sway the "casual"

mayordenis

sligeach wrote: »

Nintendo's new console still doesn't solve Nintendo's biggest problem

http://uk.businessinsider.com/nintendo-switch-third-party-games-support-2017-2

Now I know some of you have(unfairly in my opinion) had a go at some of the articles I've posted here. But you'll be able to pick apart some of the fallacies in this though some points remain valid.

I'm sorry that you feel victimised, but that doesn't mean the likes of businessinsider, idigitaltimes and other such nonsense are worthy of being read.

The article is dumb, they start out harping on about capcom and show a screen from SF2, the same SF2 that is getting a port to the switch, they neatly forget the slew of capcom games that are on the the 3DS, in fact they forget the 3DS altogether.

'More problematic is that the Switch isn't as powerful as the Xbox One and PlayStation 4.'

Like I'm sorry but if you write this and consider yourself a journalist you are one of 2 things; delusional or a fraud. It's so far from viable to fit an xbox one or ps4 into a ****ing tablet. Just insanity.

'If you wanted to play the latest "Call of Duty" game in the last decade, there were few chances to do that on Nintendo's consoles. That also applies to other major franchises, from "Grand Theft Auto" to "Mass Effect" to "Assassin's Creed."'

Is that what anyone wants? Is that what you would want Sligeach? If Nintendo trotted out a simple equivalent to the Xbox One and Ps4 just with Nintendo branding we'd have the same amazing exciting market as exists between lets say Budweiser, Heineken and Carlsberg.

'they arrived later and looked less impressive.'

Who gives a ****? We can just apply the same logic from PC to consoles and just be done with the whole thing.

'And that's a problem when Nintendo's competition, Microsoft's Xbox One and Sony's PlayStation 4, have enormous game libraries, cost less, and are more powerful.'

Yea man day 1 lets match the game libraries of several year old consoles, while we're at it, my own steam library is 423 games deep (and I would say that is pretty reasonable compared to some here), lets match that day 1.

'During a recent investor Q&A, the question of third-party support for the Switch came up. Shinya Takahashi, a Nintendo director, offered an answer that doesn't exactly instill confidence:

"Nintendo will keep on creating unique software. By doing so, I believe we will encourage third-party developers to create a number of quality software titles for Nintendo Switch."

Right.

Nintendo's argument largely boils down to "We'll lead by example, and hopefully third-party developers will follow."'

You'd swear that was the answer he gave to the question, but this is actually completely ****ing deceitful 'journalism', lets have a quick look at some more of what Takahashi said in his repsonse:

'For our previous game platforms, creating our own development tools was a high priority for us. However, since the start of Nintendo Switch development we have been aiming to realize an environment in which a variety of different third-party developers are able to easily develop compatible software, such as by making it compatible with Unreal and Unity as well as our own development tools. As a result, even companies with only a few developers have already started making games for Nintendo Switch. The development of Snipperclips ‐ Cut it out, together! started with one such small team.
Since last year, we have introduced Nintendo Switch to a variety of different development companies by demonstrating software such as 1-2-Switch. At each demonstration, everyone was interested in the new play styles. During our recent (January 13) Nintendo Switch presentation, we played a video message from the creator of Skyrim, Mr. Todd Howard of Bethesda Game Studios, in which he shared the genuine impression he had already given us
when we first showed him Nintendo Switch.'

Then an only then those he write the final line, the final sentence the only one this 'journalist' used, taken out of context as though it existed on it's own, I actually started this rant thinking 'hey, it's just ****ty clickbait' but now it's actually pretty clear that the writer is trying to deceive.

You know Miyamoto was also in the same interview and he had some **** to say too:

'In addition, third-party developers who are making software for PC can now easily adapt that software to work on our platform. In the current development environment, Iʼd say that it would take less than a year for them to port a PC game to Nintendo Switch'

anyway back to the article at hand;

'To be clear, some games from third-party software makers are coming to the Switch. They're mostly games from years ago, rereleased on the Switch. That includes "The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim," which originally launched in 2011, and "Disgaea 5," which originally launched in 2015.'

So those are 2 games announced thus far, is 2 games = most?

'These are not the type of third-party games I referred to earlier — the "Assassin's Creed"s and "Call of Duty"s and "Fallout"s of the world are what matter nowadays when it comes to third-party support.'

I genuinely don't know anyone who gives a **** about those games anymore, people are fatigued with the same old ****, certainly AC and CoD. Fallout maybe, Fallout 3 and 4 are both gigantic sprawling world which people have invested hundreds of hours into, I'm not sure what demand exactly exists for Fallout 5 right now.

Anyway long story, not short, Sligeach it's not a personal attack but these articles bother me, they are redundant opinion pieces pretending to be something more. I get that you feel betrayed by Nintendo, they are a ****ing mental company but I think you have become inflicted with a myopia that no longer allows you to be rational with regards any of their products.

magnumbud

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Pro Evo 2017/18 would do the trick for a lot of people!
Perhaps Konami would be more willing to bring a more recent engine to bear, instead of taking the cheap last gen option that EA seem to have done.

well if they are as lazy as they are with the pc port then it will be the poor mans version not using the fox engine.

CiDeRmAn

Pro Evo 2017/18 would do the trick for a lot of people!
Perhaps Konami would be more willing to bring a more recent engine to bear, instead of taking the cheap last gen option that EA seem to have done.

That_Guy

My portable battery pack, USB-C cable and 128GB SD card have all arrived. Fairly common items but little they do all know they'll be making sweet sweet love to the Switch in a few weeks time.

Banjo

EA's previous Fifa outings on the 3DS and the Wii U were very conservative affairs though, and unless they really REALLY want the Switch to succeed I can't see them making the necessary effort. If they don't try, the game won't be well received so it won't be bought, proving there was never a market for it in the first place and no need to go all-out on the next annual iteration. It's like proposing marriage because of the mutual favourable taxation implications, or buying cheap steak, or playing poker for matchstick. If you don't fully commit, you aren't properly invested in the outcome making it far too easy to walk away from.

Do they have a subscription service or dedicated digital storefront on PC? And is that accessible on the XBox or PS4?
If Yes and No, making it Switch-accessible would get their attention
If Yes and Yes, making it non-Switch-compliant is the end of proper EA support for the console.
If No and Whu?, forget I opened my mouth

O' course, there's no point having access to a sub service or digital shop/portal if you have no software to stock it, but if you allowed various publishers to have their own shopfronts they would be very interested in taking well-established properties - ones that would really only require you to do engine development and play testing / QA for a quick turn-around release - that Nintendo owners might have missed and putting them in their portable hands. Like Skyrim.

(that's right. I'm starting a rumour that the eShop doesn't need to be up and running on day one because there are secondary and tertiary marketplaces!)

That_Guy

Been reading over the browser discussion in here. I remember the XB1 was criticised heavily by people during its first presentation when all they talked about was TV and other features.

A lack of internet browser on the Switch is a pretty stupid reason to cancel a pre-order or let it be a deciding factor as to whether or not you'll be getting one at launch.

I doubt anybody sat down and said, "yeah that Zelda trailer looked amazing but seriously... where's the web browser?"

It's a gaming device and should be treated as such. It's just a very short stick people are using to beat the Switch with. We live in a society whereby people have at least 1 handheld device (phone/tablet) to browse the internet with so losing out on a browser is not going to kill Switch sales nor should it.

Fairly pathetic reason to hate on the Switch. The 3DS didn't come with a browser until 3 months after launch or so and it didn't kill my interest in that handheld.

====

Anyway, was listening to IGN's 'Game Scoop' podcast this morning. A listener emailed in with a really interesting question regarding the most important title for the Switch.

Many of the contributors went with Zelda and Splatoon but the listener suggested that FIFA 18 could be the most important catalyst in terms of 3rd party support.

I tend to agree. If EA Sports offer us a console quality version of FIFA akin to XB1 and PS4 that can be played on the go, I'd absolutely support the crap out of that.

The potential for on the go tournaments with mates and various meet ups has serious appeal if they get it right.

Could pave the way for other ports on the Switch from 3rd parties. I just hope it's not a watered down version.

[Deleted User]

Corholio wrote: »

http://www.theverge.com/2017/2/8/14544938/nintendo-switch-tablet-netflix-browser-opportunity

Good article about the lack of browser/Netflix on it. It's definitely an opportunity Nintendo are missing out on without it. It would also put the Switch into peoples hands for longer term use and peoples comfort with a device is something they shouldn't discount.

I use the PS4 browser to watch my football on when I am not near my Smart TV, having the option to do so with the Switch would be nice...

It's not a deal breaker though....

Ryath

They won't be cheaper in gamestop they always gouge on the price of games. I have to laugh every time I'm in there and see the Wii U select games for €30 they are €25 rrp every where else and usually on sale for €20-22

magnumbud

its actually only the irish places seem to be advertising it at the same price as the rest of the games most uk retailers have it 15 cheaper, it should be noted that gamestop staff have said repeatedly to me that game prices are not set yet that the current one is a guess from the gamestop HQ so it could be cheaper at launch, i got it with a charging grip with the 10 pound off on amazon a few weeks back so was ok playing that for the craic at parties. it probably should have been a pack in but if those who are so apposed to it existing in the first place would ye have even wanted it bundled in? ye clearly wouldnt have even opened it and it could have brought the console price up to around 350 to cover the costs of it

Corholio

http://www.theverge.com/2017/2/8/14544938/nintendo-switch-tablet-netflix-browser-opportunity

Good article about the lack of browser/Netflix on it. It's definitely an opportunity Nintendo are missing out on without it. It would also put the Switch into peoples hands for longer term use and peoples comfort with a device is something they shouldn't discount.

RasTa

1-2 switch is a disgrace but you don't have to buy it.

I'm still in shock at the million different things one has to do in order to connect to a hotspot and sligeach centering of certain posts

johnpatrick81

In the past few pages alone some have said it wouldn't be getting the same ridicule if it was branded as warioware.

Another few have pointed to clear family fun.

It's a step back into gimmickville. It's nowhere near the gaming experience that nintendoland offered....a generation ago.

It deserves all the vitriol it gets.

Let's not treat it as a cute throwaway budget title.

It's a flagship full price title, and pretty much the only system exclusive on day one. That is appalling

CiDeRmAn

I think most people agree it should be a pack in, or at least a budget title

Corholio

johnpatrick81 wrote: »

Everyone mentioning it as a fun family game.....all the games shown are either one player or 2 player!!

It's like nintendoland never happened.

This is a step back. In every way, except rumble technology.....ugh!

We get it, you don't like it. I'm not a particular fan of it either, some games seem half fun but it seems mostly a barebones game showing the nuances of the new HD rumble. Most people have said it's not worth the full price so no one is defending it that way. How is it a step back in every way? That's a pretty generic statement. It's a tech demo game that maybe should have been a pack in game but the argument against that is also a good one, it's hardly representative of any other game and it's pretty harmless to be honest.

johnpatrick81

Everyone mentioning it as a fun family game.....all the games shown are either one player or 2 player!!

It's like nintendoland never happened.

This is a step back. In every way, except rumble technology.....ugh!

Racket

The baby game looks ridiculous, but I still find that 1-2-Switch seems like it might have a good amount of playability to it. Certainly more than I got out of Wii Play back in the day, even if I did only buy it for the extra controller at the time. These in-game tutorial videos that Nintendo are releasing to showcase the game sure do look bad, but actual gameplay on YouTube with gamers from exhibitions and press events make it seem like a lot of fun for at least half a dozen of the games so far, which seems fair enough with an inevitable price-drop. Even the price on launch day still wouldn't make it one of the worst things ever imo, even when I was thinking the worst of the game, it'd just be another early-console fleecing where the distinct lack of depth will long be forgotten when the hardware and dev. for it matures.

While I've seen 1-2-Switch mentioned as a good idea for a pack-in with the console, I wouldn't have minded either if it was say €15-€20 on top of a set of extra joy-cons which most seem to be getting. I realise that probably wouldn't make the most sense, given you get all you need for the mini-games with the console as is, but it would have certainly made me go for it on launch day rather than wait until it has a bit of a pricedrop.

kunst nugget

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Nintendo's advertising might be a bit off with 1-2 Switch.

A bit?!?!

sligeach

Nintendo's new console still doesn't solve Nintendo's biggest problem

http://uk.businessinsider.com/nintendo-switch-third-party-games-support-2017-2

Now I know some of you have(unfairly in my opinion) had a go at some of the articles I've posted here. But you'll be able to pick apart some of the fallacies in this though some points remain valid.

geotrig

like retro said ,i think this game will be a laugh at party's or with family.

I think nintendo were right not to bundle this though as it would just give the impression that its not a serious gaming console and just another gimicky one.

By offering it as a seperate item they are giving us the choice whether to get it or not. For me i probably will for a bit of a laugh with the family.

wtlltw

johnpatrick81 wrote: »

Can't believe people are defending a full priced mini game tech demo with possibly one semi fun throwaway "sword fight" and a pile more turdtastic embarrassing messes. Liar dice!!!:D

That's it I'm going to cancel my unpreordered Switch. Thanks for ruining my day

johnpatrick81

Can't believe people are defending a full priced mini game tech demo with possibly one semi fun throwaway "sword fight" and a pile more turdtastic embarrassing messes. Liar dice!!!:D

pasta-solo

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Also developers are saying this 'next gen' rumble really is as good as Nintendo are saying and you are able to do some really crazy things with it.

I wonder what Psycho Mantis could do with these HD rumble controllers...