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Eir rural FTTH thread

rob808

I made this thread for people on eir rural blue line FTTH please keep here and don't post in Eircom FTTH 66 towns 1 Gb thread about rural FTTH rollout.

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MajesticDonkey

Mine went from Winter 2017/Spring 2018 to Winter 2018

MiskyBoyy

Mines gone back to Summer/Autumn 2018. Fack!

Robxxx7

My local exchange has now moved from early/mid 2017 to Autumn 2017 now ... so far it has slipped from Winter 2016 to Autumn 2017 ..
Oh Well ...

Gonzo

everywhere has new dates.

gonna be ages before I go through all the map.

some places that should be live got moved later in the month. Ive seen another place which didnt even get a live date, now currently live.

grouchyman

plodder wrote: »

We're moved from early/mid 2017 to Spring/Summer 2017. Not sure what that's supposed to mean. I guess Summer could mean August, which is a slip.

Interesting that the cabinet status in the next village went from "planned" to "live". No build stage .

Had another look based on what you said about the cabinet plodder. I see the cabinet in our exchange is due to go live on 22nd February but as I'm about 4kms away it won't make any difference to me

pegasus1

plodder wrote: »

It's possibly totally different arms of Openeir doing the copper wire ducting as compared with the fibre. I'd be surprised if they didn't leave space for fibre as well.

The copper wire is being fed from the new accesss side and there wont be provision for fibre for the houses that would have been fed from the old access rd.

plodder

Gonzo wrote: »

The map is updated, Dunshaughlin has a live date of 8th March!!!!!

We're moved from early/mid 2017 to Spring/Summer 2017. Not sure what that's supposed to mean. I guess Summer could mean August, which is a slip.

Interesting that the cabinet status in the next village went from "planned" to "live". No build stage .

pegasus1

Gonzo wrote: »

The map is updated, Dunshaughlin has a live date of 8th March!!!!!

Lucky you Gonzo!!
Finally have a narrowed timeline of autumn 2018 on our exchange...tis now just a year an a half...if they do and should speed up due to being more efficent...

grouchyman

Gonzo wrote: »

The map is updated, Dunshaughlin has a live date of 8th March!!!!!

here's hoping Gonzo

My local exchange has gone from early/mid 2017 to Spring/Summer 2017. Don't know whether that's an improvement or not but it looks like the date Eir webchat gave me of the end of march might be optimistic.

You could take summer as lasting up to the end of August.

Chieftain

Arrrrgh - looked at the updated map and estimated date for FTTH is winter/spring 2018. Can theoretically get fibre now but max speed is 7mb

plodder

irishchris wrote: »

They have ducting laid under the motorway for provison of water on our old access road. They then laid new ducting and copper wire on the new access road to our houses even though few weeks later they were fitting fibre to the adjoining roads and completely ignored these houses. Would have made more sense to have laid a fibre line when they digging the new access road for ducting and laying new copper cable anyway but unfortunately not :-(

Was it just a timing issue? That the construction of the road was still happening at some critical point in the fibre deployment? I don't know if it would help, but if I were you I'd be getting your neighbours together, find out who is interested in signing up, and let openeir know somehow, it would be worth their while to come back later to fulfill the original commitment. It's possibly totally different arms of Openeir doing the copper wire ducting as compared with the fibre. I'd be surprised if they didn't leave space for fibre as well.

Gonzo

The map is updated, Dunshaughlin has a live date of 8th March!!!!!

pegasus1

irishchris wrote: »

They have ducting laid under the motorway for provison of water on our old access road. They then laid new ducting and copper wire on the new access road to our houses even though few weeks later they were fitting fibre to the adjoining roads and completely ignored these houses. Would have made more sense to have laid a fibre line when they digging the new access road for ducting and laying new copper cable anyway but unfortunately not :-(

Irishchris...so your house has two roads, the motorway cut your old access so deemed closed as you had access to the other road built...
The Problem there is, that the road your new access connects too, your house wasn't listed on the plans due to you being fed off the road now on the other side of the motorway and since disregarded...you need to find out is there provision in a splice box for you from your new road connection...but who do you talk to?

mdfire

Deleted User wrote: »

I suspect that if you offered to pay for the extra work involved in stringing up the fibre, they'd do it. After all it's a simple task of a few pole clips and a couple of hundred metres of fibre instead of 50 metres or so for a standard rural installation.

My house is located half way between two splice boxes and I expect they'll need about 100m of fibre to get from the splice to the NTU in the house. A duct and three poles to the splice.

The 250m is along a public lane which my house opens directly onto it. If i though I could pay i would and so would my neighbours.However, the rep has put a proposal into the planners to close the gap on the road and serve the remaining houses though im not hopeful.

irishchris

pegasus1 wrote: »

Has the new motorway build been progressed to an extent that ducting is laid on a flyover or underpass?.. Perhaps when it is they will come out to do your section...

They have ducting laid under the motorway for provison of water on our old access road. They then laid new ducting and copper wire on the new access road to our houses even though few weeks later they were fitting fibre to the adjoining roads and completely ignored these houses. Would have made more sense to have laid a fibre line when they digging the new access road for ducting and laying new copper cable anyway but unfortunately not :-(

Johnboy1951

mdfire wrote: »

So explain to me why it stopped 250m in the other direction also? The road is a loop of the main road and they came in both sides and left out about 500m in the middle where most of the houses are. Other parts of the area which are more remote (by several km) are served.

Why would you expect anyone on this forum to be able to tell you on what open/eir have made commercial decisions?

One might well believe that if they do a lot of this they will get full payment from the NBP for those in between the two ends.

Although they did a very similar thing here, there are only about 6 houses between the ends of the blue lines.

As I said previously ..... it is a commercial roll out and open/eir make their own decisions based on whatever is important to them.

Finne1993

Deleted User wrote: »

I suspect that if you offered to pay for the extra work involved in stringing up the fibre, they'd do it. After all it's a simple task of a few pole clips and a couple of hundred metres of fibre instead of 50 metres or so for a standard rural installation.

My house is located half way between two splice boxes and I expect they'll need about 100m of fibre to get from the splice to the NTU in the house. A duct and three poles to the splice.

I'd agree with this, my own house is up a private lane, approx 250 meters long, we were on the blue line, a few months ago the ducting guys were out, they were unable to get the ducting rodded through the existing duct that holds the copper cable, they told me as it was a private lane that they wouldn't be replacing any ducting at a cost to them but if I wanted to do it myself they would blow the fibre up through it.
I got a trench dug, laid the ducting, connected it to the access box at the bottom of the lane and into the access box outside my house.
A few weeks later another crew arrived to work on the road, I stopped with them and pointed out what I had done, they weren't aware of this work and then proceeded to blow the fibre cable through the duct and now I have fibre cable right outside my house ready to be connected, if I hadn't done any of this or hadn't pursued the different engineers who were working on my road I'd be like mdfire and waiting on the NBP.

tkmullingar

Any thing happen in the Mullingar area?

Finne1993

SteveD92 wrote: »

Our installation for FTTH was scheduled for today. Engineer was on site and once he went to connect it he realised the code on the box which was running the fibre from the road to the house was different to what he had been issued and couldn't complete the install.

Called Eir and they said it was an isolated issue and the guy on the phone hadn't heard of it happening before and had to leave it with him to sort out before getting another installation date. Said it would have to be manually fixed (whatever that means?)

Any idea as to what the code has to do with it?

The exact same thing happened to neighbours of mine on Monday and to different neighbours on Tuesday!
Even the engineers are shaking their heads!
They have been working at houses on my road (There are approx 40 houses on it) all week now, at times there were 6 vans on the road! I think there are only 10 houses out of that 40 that went for the FTTH and they only have 3 connected! And one of them was through NET1 who hadn't sent out a modem so that customer is still without it!

I checked with an engineer today and he says my install date has been put back until next Tuesday, I also spoke to a different engineer yesterday and he said the whole procedure (If you call it that) is very haphazard in that they don't know where they're going to be sent from one hour to the next and most sites they go to cannot be connected first time as the lines haven't been tested! They're obviously rushing to get people connected to get their numbers up but in doing so they're wasting an awful lot of time and money!

One thing I will say is that all the KN engineers I've spoken to were sound, I'm sure they get tortured with people asking the same questions over and over but they're always polite and are willing to answer any queries any of us have.

I will get it at some stage... hopefully!!!

[Deleted User]

mdfire wrote: »

The fibre stopped 250m short of me on our lane. We have the crazy situation of there being 2 fibre boxes each of which has four ports. The eir rep told me that only one of the 6 properties served by it wanted fibre broadband. So there is 7 spare ports just down the lane and i cant get it. Is there another country in the western world where this would be allowed to happen?

I suspect that if you offered to pay for the extra work involved in stringing up the fibre, they'd do it. After all it's a simple task of a few pole clips and a couple of hundred metres of fibre instead of 50 metres or so for a standard rural installation.

My house is located half way between two splice boxes and I expect they'll need about 100m of fibre to get from the splice to the NTU in the house. A duct and three poles to the splice.

murphaph

mdfire wrote: »

The fibre stopped 250m short of me on our lane. We have the crazy situation of there being 2 fibre boxes each of which has four ports. The eir rep told me that only one of the 6 properties served by it wanted fibre broadband. So there is 7 spare ports just down the lane and i cant get it. Is there another country in the western world where this would be allowed to happen?

In almost every other country in the whole world your neighbours wouldn't have FTTH either tbh. The rural FTTH roll out is pretty unique.

I know it's not what you want to hear but be thankful that fibre is so close. It's only a matter of time before it comes to you.

By the way I hope that rep was wrong or at least that his figures are not representative of the wider scheme because 18% take up rates would mean it being unsustainable. Eir will be banking on very high adoption rates due to current limitations in xdsl services to these locations.

Tweaky

A lot of activity in Carrigtwohill Cork this evening. KN network laying the underground sections of fibre. First activity we have seen. Hopefully they will meet their timeline of first connection early to mid 2017.

mdfire

pegasus1 wrote: »

I would say that it wont and can/t due to the NBP...
Maybe if a new build were to happen in an area where fibre has been fully run and installed then yes, But I presume there is some extra ports in each splice unit to allow for this..

Not officially no.

I was told by the eir guys who were splicing the boxes that in all likelihood in my situation the planners were reading off plans that were out of date. The whole area is served except a small section of our road. Makes no sense.

mdfire

The Cush wrote: »

I posted about this cabinet the day work commenced, completed many months ago but hasn't gone live yet, still showing as completion work in progress.

I saw them working at ours for weeks and actually passed two weeks ago as it was craned in. Not even showing as work in progress, still planned.

pegasus1

mdfire wrote: »

Officially its assigned by Eircode. Ive been told that if its not taken up then it could, theoretically, be reassigned.

I would say that it wont and can/t due to the NBP...
Maybe if a new build were to happen in an area where fibre has been fully run and installed then yes, But I presume there is some extra ports in each splice unit to allow for this..

The Cush

mdfire wrote: »

Its even more frustrating in that a fibre cabinet was installed two weeks ago less than 1km from the house. Its still showing as planned and i cant get any date from eir. At least if I had that up and running it would be an improvement on the 2mb im getting at min.

I posted about this cabinet the day work commenced, completed many months ago but hasn't gone live yet, still showing as completion work in progress.

mdfire

MBSnr wrote: »

Is this for certain? Each house has a dedicated port, so there is no issue of getting in first? I'm stuck in an 18 month Vodafone contact... Don't fancy buying it out (if I don't need to) if FTTH magically becomes available for me in mid 2017

Officially its assigned by Eircode. Ive been told that if its not taken up then it could, theoretically, be reassigned.

MBSnr

pegasus1 wrote: »

This is the thing each house/premises gets a 100% dedicated port so down the road - time wise - one can 100% get connected...tis the NBP you will have to wait on..

Is this for certain? Each house has a dedicated port, so there is no issue of getting in first? I'm stuck in an 18 month Vodafone contact... Don't fancy buying it out (if I don't need to) if FTTH magically becomes available for me in mid 2017

mdfire

pegasus1 wrote: »

This is the thing each house/premises gets a 100% dedicated port so down the road - time wise - one can 100% get connected...tis the NBP you will have to wait on..

Its even more frustrating in that a fibre cabinet was installed two weeks ago less than 1km from the house. Its still showing as planned and i cant get any date from eir. At least if I had that up and running it would be an improvement on the 2mb im getting at min.

mdfire

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

Yes.

This is a commercial roll out and there is no onus on open/eir to offer their service to anyone.

When the NBP rolls out you should then have some right to expect a connection.

Yes it is disappointing; even frustrating, but it is up to open/eir to make the service available or not, at their discretion.

The sooner the NBP begins, the better for all of us.
At least we can expect some responsibility to be taken when the roll out is being supported by the NBP.

So explain to me why it stopped 250m in the other direction also? The road is a loop of the main road and they came in both sides and left out about 500m in the middle where most of the houses are. Other parts of the area which are more remote (by several km) are served.