FA Hayek wrote: » Trump is not far right, as I mentioned in another post, do you really think a born and bred New Yorker living on the upper East side, is a secret member of the Klan or a Neo-Nazi? People get upset when big nets are cast calling all left wingers/liberals SJW's or snowflakes, yet here far-right is a catch all term.
Walter H Price wrote: » The polarization and widening division of society as a whole at the moment is very unsettling. I'm not one for conspiracy theories or any of that stuff , but i do believe the media is having a massive impact on this widening division through very biased and emotive reporting. You are really left looking and thinking where has the neutrality in the media gone and what is the end game of having people so viciously divided on issues of such little relevance to them e.g Trump or any of the American election campaign
PopePalpatine wrote: » Yep, let's just ignore Trump tarring any negative polls about him as "FAKE NEWS".
Professor Moriarty wrote: » Trump has as much in common with the average New Yorker as the Queen of England has with the average Cockney.
scruffy66 wrote: » Good to see you put the Queen and Trump on the same level, now we're getting some where. Did you see this half time Super Bowl interview Trump did with fox's Bill o Reilly . Now Bill has to be one of the most dislikable Human beings alive, even more than Trump but is Trump the first American President to move away from The idea of American Elitism and to say straight up that the U.S. Have killed just as much as other countries and that they are just as responsible for world instability .https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XbIdPUX7zg8
KingBrian2 wrote: » MightyMandarin wrote: » The far right is Trump. He is stirring up religious discrimination. Trump is a populist. He has many liberal positions. Many many liberal positions.
MightyMandarin wrote: » The far right is Trump. He is stirring up religious discrimination.
MightyMandarin wrote: » I'll call him far-right, fascist etc.
FA Hayek wrote: » He is a far right fascist, but not Nazi. Err, ok. Kinda proving my point really but go ahead.
KingBrian2 wrote: » Good to know the liberals in America have already made up their mind about Trump even as it is early days exactly like how Conservatives accused Obama the do nothing President of being a Marxist, Kenyan Socialist long before election even came to conclusion. US Democrats are still looking for votes i see.
MightyMandarin wrote: » Hardly early days when he's been in 2 weeks and already he's signed more than a dozen EO's, fired an Attorney General, banned hundreds of thousand's from entering the US based entirely on their religion, questioned the legitimacy of a Judge, ripped up several trade deals, put some terrible people in powerful positions, convinced the speaker of Parliament to declare that he's not welcome in Westminster and even declared that any polls which are unfavourable to him are fake... and that's just him. His administration has also been caught lying through their teeth on numerous occasions, most notably with infamous 'inauguration attendance figures', managed to conjure up an 1984-esque term: 'Alternative facts' and made up an entire 'Massacre' which never happened. Don't know what you mean by 'early days'; this type of stuff wouldn't happen in an 8yr presidency of most presidents yet it took Donald 2 weeks.
MightyMandarin wrote: » I'd be as worried about these American jihadists as I would the Islamic ones.
MightyMandarin wrote: » How does that prove your point at all? Fascism and Nazism are heavily linked but not the same thing.
KingBrian2 wrote: » Early days usually being first few weeks. Certainly knows how to illicit a reaction out of the usual crowd. We saw the protesters gathering momentum very quickly. Don't imagine the journalists decided to interview those people like they portrayed the Tea Party movement not that the Tea Party movement was any good. Those liberal protesters are too busy engaging in violent demonstrations.
MightyMandarin wrote: » Hardly early days when he's been in 2 weeks and already he's signed more than a dozen EO's, fired an Attorney General, banned hundreds of thousand's from entering the US based entirely on their religion, questioned the legitimacy of a Judge, ripped up several trade deals, put some terrible people in powerful positions, convinced the speaker of Parliament to declare that he's not welcome in Westminster and even declared that any polls which are unfavourable to him are fake... and that's just him. .
FA Hayek wrote: » That is factually wrong, All people from these 7 states,whether Muslim, Christian or whatever are banned for the time being, 90 days I think with the exception of Syria. The ban was based on nationality. At least get your facts straight.
(b) Upon the resumption of USRAP admissions, the Secretary of State, in consultation with the Secretary of Homeland Security, is further directed to make changes, to the extent permitted by law, to prioritize refugee claims made by individuals on the basis of religious-based persecution, provided that the religion of the individual is a minority religion in the individual's country of nationality.
(e) Notwithstanding the temporary suspension imposed pursuant to subsection (a) of this section, the Secretaries of State and Homeland Security may jointly determine to admit individuals to the United States as refugees on a case-by-case basis, in their discretion, but only so long as they determine that the admission of such individuals as refugees is in the national interest -- including when the person is a religious minority in his country of nationality facing religious persecution, when admitting the person would enable the United States to conform its conduct to a preexisting international agreement, or when the person is already in transit and denying admission would cause undue hardship -- and it would not pose a risk to the security or welfare of the United States.
FA Hayek wrote: » It proves that you are making up labels to suit your argument. Logic goes out the window to be replaced with hysteria.
FA Hayek wrote: » Well then you are a fool to think that, as the former have killed tens of thousands all over the world the past couple of years, have formed a terrorist state named ISIS, a state that takes sex slaves and throws homosexuals off buildings, yet people driving a few humvee's around Kentucky is the equivalent of this in the US.
KingBrian2 wrote: Good to know the liberals in America have already made up their mind about Trump even as it is early days exactly like how Conservatives accused Obama the do nothing President of being a Marxist, Kenyan Socialist long before election even came to conclusion. US Democrats are still looking for votes i see.
Brian? wrote: » There's a large slice of irony here. The ban is weighted against Muslims in favour of Christians. Thems the facts horse, straight as you like.
psinno wrote: » It is in favour of persecuted minority religious groups. Some of them are christian , some of them are not.
Brian? wrote: » The ban is weighted against Muslims. Let's agree on that so.
