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Anyone else becoming terrified of Liberals.

Bebopclown

This fear has been building in me for awhile but seeing all these violent protests recently has heightened my fears. It seems that if you are in any way different, if you like something that's a little abnormal (like 18 certed horror films) these liberals want you dead! They will scream, shout and threaten you until you conform and be like them. Right now, it seems that if you are different, maybe a little bit odd, it's now time to lock yourself up and never step outside. I don't like posting online anymore due to fear of liberal attacks and labelling.
My therapist says I need to get out more, talk to people and let them get to know the real me but I'm scared the real me will get me killed at the hands of these liberals. My therapist says my oddness makes me unique but I think it makes me a target of liberal hate. It feels like I need to conform, I need to become something else because being me is a horrible thing. I need to stay so deep in the closet because if I come out then that will be another thing that makes me different.

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Samuel T. Cogley

CMOTDibbler wrote: »

People need to get out more.

As glib as this remark is, it's absolutely right. Too much social media and not enough interacting with real people.

Permabear

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demfad

Jan_de_Bakker wrote: »

Its fascism, the left are the new fascists and don't even realise it ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-sX5JLwidE

Fascism=n authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.

red ears

Terrlock wrote: »

Anyone feel that the whole world has being simmering in the hate of each others ideals and it's just coming to the stage where is starting to boil over.

And it's to a new level too...even people in families who have different opinions get angry at each other.

There is definitely something happening. In my lifetime i have never seen the likes of what is going on in US campuses with riots breaking out when someone comes to give a talk. The anger is palpable. In one video a blonde girl gets hit over the head with a pole. She didn't seem to be doing anything to warrant it. Hollywood directors and actors calling for violence and the whole room cheering and whooping as if its totally acceptable.

alastair

red ears wrote: »

There is definitely something happening. In my lifetime i have never seen the likes of what is going on in US campuses with riots breaking out when someone comes to give a talk. The anger is palpable. In one video a blonde girl gets hit over the head with a pole. She didn't seem to be doing anything to warrant it. Hollywood directors and actors calling for violence and the whole room cheering and whooping as if its totally acceptable.

This has been going on, at Berkeley at least, since 1964.

CMOTDibbler

red ears wrote: »

There is definitely something happening. In my lifetime i have never seen the likes of what is going on in US campuses with riots breaking out when someone comes to give a talk. The anger is palpable. In one video a blonde girl gets hit over the head with a pole. She didn't seem to be doing anything to warrant it. Hollywood directors and actors calling for violence and the whole room cheering and whooping as if its totally acceptable.

The first recorded incident of student rioting occurred in 1229 in Paris University. It resulted in the University being closed for two years. :eek:

Many of the riots in the US have occurred after big wins or big losses in football or other sports events. The biggest on record involving more than 10,000 rioters happened in Kentucky in 2012 after the Wildcats got through the last four in the NCAA basketball championships.

Some of them were politically motivated such as segregation protests in Mississippi or the anti-war protests during the Vietnam war. National Guard opened fire on a crowd in Kent State University killing four protesters and injuring nine.

Nothing new here at all.

MightyMandarin

Jan_de_Bakker wrote: »

Ah sorry yeah, therefore it was all grand to smash up the campus ...

cos boo hoo he has a different opinion, if his opinions are so shocking let him on stage and debate him and show him to be wrong.

Never said it was ok to cause a riot, and in fact students led a peaceful protest until clowns came out and caused trouble.

I would gladly debate him, and show him the complete trash his organisation has published which only serves to incite hate and division.

MightyMandarin

I saw that guy up in Quebec who shot a bunch of people is a white-nationalist who was heavily influenced by Donald Trump and Marine Le Pen.

I'm more scared of right-wing terrorists boosted by the hatred coming from the right than I am of any liberals who attack Trump supporters.

The worst of each side are terrible, but I don't see supposed 'liberals' murdering a bunch of people based on their religious or political views.

OleRodrigo

It seems to me that societies remain healthy with a mix of conservative and liberal policies. Right now the pendulum is swinging back to conservatism until some of the problems of liberalism ( or neo-lberalism ) have been addressed. It will then probably swing back again.
That liberals are taking so much offense with this is astonishing.

There is definitely something happening. In my lifetime i have never seen the likes of what is going on in US campuses with riots breaking out when someone comes to give a talk. The anger is palpable. In one video a blonde girl gets hit over the head with a pole. She didn't seem to be doing anything to warrant it. Hollywood directors and actors calling for violence and the whole room cheering and whooping as if its totally acceptable.

Great post in Linkedin this week reminding us of what previous generations, not so long ago, put up with moving to the US.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/my-jewish-irish-asian-italian-friends-joshua-brown

red ears

CMOTDibbler wrote: »

The first recorded incident of student rioting occurred in 1229 in Paris University. It resulted in the University being closed for two years. :eek:

Many of the riots in the US have occurred after big wins or big losses in football or other sports events. The biggest on record involving more than 10,000 rioters happened in Kentucky in 2012 after the Wildcats got through the last four in the NCAA basketball championships.

Some of them were politically motivated such as segregation protests in Mississippi or the anti-war protests during the Vietnam war. National Guard opened fire on a crowd in Kent State University killing four protesters and injuring nine.

Nothing new here at all.

This isn't one off riots its a national issue. It all stems from political correctness and an intolerance for free speech from the left. Its an authoritarianism of sorts. What started 30 years ago as politely pointing out to someone they cant say a particular thing as it is politically incorrect has progressed into outrage and outright violence and hostility to people who don't toe the line.

Zillah

Permabear wrote: »

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You see comments to this effect a lot of the time and they really seem to miss the point. Liberalism is about tolerance of difference, not tolerance of intolerance, or tolerance of hatred and discrimination.

Things a liberal should tolerate:
- Different religions
- Different political preferences
- Different races, sexual orientations, etc

Things a liberal shouldn't tolerate:
- Racism
- Fascism
- Authoritatianism
- Xenophobia

Liberalism doesn't mean "anything goes". I'm not going to catch someone stabbing someone else in an alleyway and go "Well, who am I to judge?"

So no, don't go treating people like they are horrible goblins for voting conservative, but yes, be very intolerant of people preaching racism and xenophobia.

Chips Lovell

If you find yourself terrified of liberals, the alt-right, president Trump or whoever, it's a sure fire sign that it's time to turn off the computer and start getting out more.

rarariot

The left/right divide in the US is becoming more apparently violent because of other groups associating themselves with both sides.

BLM is seen as part of the left now, when it's nothing more than a bunch of hate spewing thugish hypocrites. The exact same could be said for Antifa movements.

The "alt-right" is a huge part of the right now, and is pretty divisive. Freedom of speech blurs into insults and racism.

Both sides have just become heavily bogged down in groups which have become attached to them, and serve no real purpose other than to hate and create mayhem.

alastair

red ears wrote: »

This isn't one off riots its a national issue. It all stems from political correctness and an intolerance for free speech from the left. Its an authoritarianism of sorts. What started 30 years ago as politely pointing out to someone they cant say a particular thing as it is politically incorrect has progressed into outrage and outright violence and hostility to people who don't toe the line.

Again - nothing new in any of that. The supposed 'politeness' of 30 years ago is at odds with the reality of 30 years ago.

Hank Scorpio

One side during the election were extremely violent and continue to be so, and it wasn't Trump supporters

The radical alt left terrorists like antifa need to be labeled as such

CMOTDibbler

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

One side during the election were extremely violent and continue to be so, and it wasn't Trump supporters

The radical alt left terrorists like antifa need to be labeled as such

You could be right. But during the election I don't remember Clinton saying things like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIs2L2nUL-0

Hank Scorpio

CMOTDibbler wrote: »

You could be right. But during the election I don't remember Clinton saying things like this:

Actions speak louder than words. And if those fascist pigs who stood around Trump rallies attacking his supporters going to and from events got some retribution, that's fine by me.

CMOTDibbler

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

Actions speak louder than words. And if those fascist pigs who stood around Trump rallies attacking his supporters going to and from events got some retribution, that's fine by me.

There are words and actions in those clips.

Hank Scorpio

CMOTDibbler wrote: »

There are words and actions in those clips.

Do you really want to go down the route of posting video clips to try and prove a point? For every clip of a gobsh/te at a Trump rally there's 50 videos on the other side.

The violence shown by factions of the left has far outweighed any message they may have. It's a good thing because all it's doing is hurting their cause and pushing more people to Trump's side.

CMOTDibbler

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

Do you really want to go down the route of posting video clips to try and prove a point? For every clip of a gobsh/te at a Trump rally there's 50 videos on the other side.

The violence shown by factions of the left has far outweighed any message they may have. It's a good thing because all it's doing is hurting their cause and pushing more people to Trump's side.

No, I abhor violence.

It's not helpful for a presidential candidate to be encouraging it.

DrumSteve

Makes me a bit sad they way the word liberal has been hijacked by american politics.

Whats actually wrong with being liberal in its truest sense?

Hank Scorpio

CMOTDibbler wrote: »

No, I abhor violence.

It's not helpful for a presidential candidate to be encouraging it.

No moral ground, Hillary Clinton's team along with Bob Creamer paid mentally ill people to go and incite violence at Trump rallies, which is far worse than anything Trump has ever done.

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/18/politics/project-veritas-action-robert-creamer-donald-trump-rallies/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3850226/Democratic-strategist-steps-post-video-surfaced-purportedly-showing-hired-people-incite-violence-Trump-rallies.html

Hank Scorpio

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

So it's OK for people to beat up mentally Ill people at Trump rallies? Can't say I'm surprised.

Yeah, that's exactly my point. Thanks for clearing that up.

ancapailldorcha

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alastair

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

No moral ground, Hillary Clinton's team along with Bob Creamer paid mentally ill people to go and incite violence at Trump rallies, which is far worse than anything Trump has ever done.

No they didn't. As has been pointed out repeatedly.

https://theintercept.com/2016/04/03/trump-campaign-spread-dirty-meme-paid-protesters/

Hank Scorpio

alastair wrote: »

No they didn't. As has been pointed out repeatedly.

https://theintercept.com/2016/04/03/trump-campaign-spread-dirty-meme-paid-protesters/

Are you missing something? The videos of Creamer and such came out much later.

This thread is getting dragged off topic now, violence is bad no matter where it comes from, but I'll stand by what I said - It's only one side who has shown throughout the campaign to have a mob mentality of attacking people and rioting without reason, and as proven with the Berkeley riots, continue to do so.

open_minded

Liberals certainly seem to have very few arrows in their armoury. They resort to name calling and violence very quickly. Liberals seek to shut down free speech and debate as they perform poorly in those areas.
Liberals perform well in emotions and in feelz, but those things have very little objective value and relying on them leads you to make silly decisions.

Liberalism is now a sinking ship. Neo-racists are in the ascendency.

ancapailldorcha

If people want to discuss the state of modern liberalism then by all means please do so. If this thread is going to degenerate into a pit of lazy tarring and cherrypicking links then I'll have to close it. Please bear the charter in mind.

Permabear

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jimmycrackcorm

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

Do you really want to go down the route of posting video clips to try and prove a point? For every clip of a gobsh/te at a Trump rally there's 50 videos on the other side.

Have you actually got 50 video examples to support what you say or can we take it as another example of alternative facts?