Bebopclown wrote: » This fear has been building in me for awhile but seeing all these violent protests recently has heightened my fears. It seems that if you are in any way different, if you like something that's a little abnormal (like 18 certed horror films) these liberals want you dead! They will scream, shout and threaten you until you conform and be like them. Right now, it seems that if you are different, maybe a little bit odd, it's now time to lock yourself up and never step outside. I don't like posting online anymore due to fear of liberal attacks and labelling. My therapist says I need to get out more, talk to people and let them get to know the real me but I'm scared the real me will get me killed at the hands of these liberals. My therapist says my oddness makes me unique but I think it makes me a target of liberal hate. It feels like I need to conform, I need to become something else because being me is a horrible thing. I need to stay so deep in the closet because if I come out then that will be another thing that makes me different.
conditioned games wrote: » Those liberals that seek to stamp out different opinions by shouting, using insult words or even violence are a threat to democracy. However a larger share of liberals I would like to think are open to different view points and so I wouldn't try conform to whatever the mainstream media is telling us.
ancapailldorcha wrote: » Simply put, these aren't liberals as liberalism by it's nature involves allowing, or at least tolerating different opinions and actions as long as they don't infringe on the rights of others. It's also interesting that people are focusing exclusively on the left and are happy to ignore such things from the right.
Comedian Sarah Silverman has called for the violent overthrow of "mad king" Donald Trump and urged Americans to "join the resistance". The often-outspoken actress, who backed Bernie Sanders and then Hillary Clinton for the top job, used Twitter to advocate a military coup on Thursday, apparently jokingly. She wrote: "WAKE UP & JOIN THE RESISTANCE. ONCE THE MILITARY IS W US FASCISTS GET OVERTHROWN. MAD KING & HIS HANDLERS GO BYE BYE".
Jimmy Garlic wrote: » In an American context there isn't as much violence and intimidation tactics being used at at protests by the right, no where near as much. They are being egged on by the likes of this-http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/sarah-silverman-donald-trump-coup-oust-mad-king-comedian-actress-twitter-tweet-fascists-handlers-a7560596.html
alastair wrote: » Oh oh. Someone is afraid of Sarah Silverman.
Cienciano wrote: » Well, using the examples in this thread, 6 killed in an attack by the right, or a tweet by a comedian on the left - I know which I'd rather be on the end of.
Jimmy Garlic wrote: » She is using her fame to reach an audience in order to call for violence.
ancapailldorcha wrote: » Simply put, these aren't liberals as liberalism by it's nature involves allowing, or at least tolerating different opinions and actions as long as they don't infringe on the rights of others. With you 100% on this one. I have always considered myself and identified with what we - in the Irish/UK/European context - would consider a liberal, but beginning to realise, when looking objectively at the election and it's aftermath in the US, that liberalism is morphing into something potentially dangerous. I've come to the realisation that Liberals have become the Establishment and like any establishment, has become doctrinaire in their thinking, convinced of their righteousness and intolerant of others that disagree with them. I've always thought of liberals as people that are focused more on identifying and respecting 'truth' - so not only tolerant of others beliefs but recognising the need to consider other's opinions when forming their own - rather than following a rigid doctrine which increasingly seems to be the case. Liberals, in my view, would look at all the facts and use reason to draw conclusions and opinions, with the underlining motivation of identifying what is the best solution that can positively impact the majority of people. It requires pragmatism and the understanding that we and no one has all the answers, compromise is usually required to get things done and strict adherence to a rigid ideology usually ends up in conflict. When political correctness first came into common lore during the late 80's/early 90's, I embraced it as a means of removing derogatory language that perpetuated racist/sexist/discriminatory abuse of minorities and fostered a respect for people that were different and protected people that couldn't stand up for themselves. It has since morphed into something that is a parody of tolerance and it now feels like it actually breeds intolerance, and worse, it places feelings and opinions above freedom of speech, freedom of thought and freedom to question. It breeds the absolute worst kind of censorship - self censorship. When people are afraid to question the new liberal doctrine because to question is now seen as to attack, when social media has generated an intolerant hive mentality where outrage is the emotion du jour and people define themselves by what they are against, seek out their own 'echo chambers' (apologies, I appreciate that phrase is becoming WAY overused) and want 'safe spaces' so they can't be 'triggered', then these people should really consider the need to find a new label, because they have clearly lost sight of what being a liberal means. Personally, I can't move away from the belief that liberalism is, in it's basic tenets, a worldview that requires us to be open minded, tolerant of other's differences and opinions and being open to the need to question things and not follow a strict doctrine. It should sit between the political left and political right, consider what works in both beliefs and adapting it to find pragmatic solutions that benefit the most. All of that requires openess and tolerance - and they are now the two virtues that modern day liberalism seems to be lacking the most....
Bebopclown wrote: » It seems that if you are in any way different, if you like something that's a little abnormal (like 18 certed horror films) these liberals want you dead! They will scream, shout and threaten you until you conform and be like them.
Bebopclown wrote: » I don't like posting online anymore due to fear of liberal attacks and labelling.
Jan_de_Bakker wrote: » Its fascism, the left are the new fascists and don't even realise it .. <snip>
wes wrote: » A Trump supporting right winger, walked into a mosque and murdered 6 people a few days ago.
CreepingDeath wrote: » The attack happened in Canada. So not so sure how much of your "trump supporting..." comment is based on truth.
'Islamophobia killed Canadians': anti-Muslim rhetoric blamed in Québec attack Those who knew Bissonnette described him as pro-Donald Trump, anti-immigration and sympathetic to the far right, prompting many to ask whether the current political climate had laid the ground for the attack.
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MightyMandarin wrote: » Really? You post a video of that clown to back your point whose "news" organisation routinely writes pieces that are 100% flat out lies. Pathetic.
Elemonator wrote: » Not every liberal is strictly like that. Many are entirely open to different opinions. But I think some are ultimately shooting themselves in the foot as we've seen with Donald Trump and the US election. Some liberals denounced Donald Trump supporters, decried them as "deplorable", and basically alienated them. What they haven't realised still is the more you push against a group of people, alienate them and telling them what you think is right, the more they are going to push back. Particularly prevalent in the US election with groups basically saying if you stand for this and believe in this then you are a scumbag basically, hence Donald Trump got elected. The media and liberals still haven't learnt the lesson, they continue to do it despite the fact that is having the opposite effect of what they want. I'm not political at all, but I'm more and more starting to notice people saying that the actions of liberals post election has convinced them to vote right wing forever. The reason for this being that their actions are totally undemocratic. The results of an election are wrong unless it goes my way seems to be the prevailing attitude. Again, I'd like to stress these are my own observations and it seems to be in select, minority groups.
