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Paris again?

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Sky reporting a soldier has "opened fire" after a man tried to enter the Louvre with a suitcase.

A foiled terrorist attack or an innocent tourist?

More to follow

http://news.sky.com/story/soldier-shoots-at-man-trying-to-enter-louvre-in-paris-10754100

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Stigura

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

Reminds me of the Brazilian tourist just going about his day in London they shot in the tube.

:eek: Nasty! Couldn't they have just gone for his legs?

skankkuvhima

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

I had to make it my sig due to the sheer volume of posts around here that are logical fallacies but I do admit I enjoy subdividing fallacies into the appropriate category

Your post by my reckoning is a combination of the loaded question fallacy and the sadly overused and rather dull moving the posts fallacy. Lots of posters here call it the strawman argument but I think that's rather cliché these days.

Sadly you don't win a prize or get a sweet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_the_goalposts

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loaded_question

You should be careful of pointing out other peoples fallacies

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Fallacy_fallacy

Jelle1880

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Im glad he was stopped. It's funny how nobody comments on the fact that the streets of many European cities are now patrolled by heavily armed soldiers in full combat gear. It's just the new normal apparently

France has had soldiers on their streets since at least 1995, during the GIA's bombing campaign.

b_mac2 wrote: »

If it means us leaving the EU, Vive Le Pen!

Somehow I always have this idea that people who think like this haven't got a clue what the EU does or doesn't do.
What do you think would be better when out of the EU ?

And don't give me that 'sovereignty' crap

darkpagandeath

I'm guessing all this is feeding to the right now in France. So France out of the EU if she gets in any takers on bets ?

darkpagandeath

Felix Jones is God wrote: »

Yes, yes indeed , because a planned 30 man swat move is exactly the same as a split second 1 on 1 knife attack :rolleyes:

One said it never happens in Real life.

IvyTheTerrible

b_mac2 wrote: »

I can't wait until LePen gets in to power over there. You can be fückin sure that incidents like this, will be very very rare when she does.

The French won't be told it's just something that they have to put with either.

Unemployment and economic issues are bigger problems for people over here, even if some sections of the media would have us believe that it's not. Marine LePen doesn't have the economic savvy to get France out of the doldrums. But I suppose if she makes a big song and dance about Muslims then no-one will notice...

ceadaoin.

Im glad he was stopped. It's funny how nobody comments on the fact that the streets of many European cities are now patrolled by heavily armed soldiers in full combat gear. It's just the new normal apparently

b_mac2

HONKEY TONK wrote: »

If LePen gets into power. The EU will be over.

Ireland will be back in the 1980s

Are you ready for that?

If it means us leaving the EU, Vive Le Pen!

[Deleted User]

Jelle1880 wrote: »

What can Le Pen do to stop these attacks ? Martial law ? Deport 10% of the population ?

I'm genuinely curious, I always read stuff like how the far right candidates will put a halt to it, without anything to back that claim up.

Maybe she will inspire a few more people to go shoot up mosques and murder?

wes

ScrubsfanChris wrote: »

https://twitter.com/MintRoyale/status/827504765856841729

It should be noted that his admin actually blamed the attack in Canada on Muslims and never corrected themselves as well. Its amazing how far right violence is given a complete free past, by the right.

ScrubsfanChris

HONKEY TONK wrote: »

Twitter

https://twitter.com/MintRoyale/status/827504765856841729

^^^ More on the Trump tweet

Jelle1880

b_mac2 wrote: »

I can't wait until LePen gets in to power over there. You can be fückin sure that incidents like this, will be very very rare when she does.

The French won't be told it's just something that they have to put with either.

What can Le Pen do to stop these attacks ? Martial law ? Deport 10% of the population ?

I'm genuinely curious, I always read stuff like how the far right candidates will put a halt to it, without anything to back that claim up.

HONKEY TONK

b_mac2 wrote: »

I can't wait until LePen gets in to power over there. You can be fückin sure that incidents like this, will be very very rare when she does.

The French won't be told it's just something that they have to put with either.

If LePen gets into power. The EU will be over.

Ireland will be back in the 1980s

Are you ready for that?

HONKEY TONK

Donald Trump

A new radical Islamic terrorist has just attacked in Louvre Museum in Paris. Tourists were locked down. France on edge again. GET SMART U.S.

Twitter

b_mac2

Laois_Man wrote: »

LePen at the moment is not going to win

Déjà vu.

Laois_Man

b_mac2 wrote: »

I can't wait until LePen gets in to power over there. You can be fückin sure that incidents like this, will be very very rare when she does.

The French won't be told it's just something that they have to put with either.

LePen at the moment is not going to win

However, a couple of major attacks in the next couple of months could change things

b_mac2

I can't wait until LePen gets in to power over there. You can be fückin sure that incidents like this, will be very very rare when she does.

The French won't be told it's just something that they have to put with either.

Mr. Incognito

SnakePlissken wrote: »

As was perfectly demonstrated by last year's mosque attack in Zurich... No wait, that wasn't a white supremacist after all, perhaps it's the murder of the two Imans in New York I'm thinking of, that was carried out by a white supremacist wasn't it... Well no, no it wasn't.

I had to make it my sig due to the sheer volume of posts around here that are logical fallacies but I do admit I enjoy subdividing fallacies into the appropriate category

Your post by my reckoning is a combination of the loaded question fallacy and the sadly overused and rather dull moving the posts fallacy. Lots of posters here call it the strawman argument but I think that's rather cliché these days.

Sadly you don't win a prize or get a sweet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_the_goalposts

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loaded_question

jmayo

This attack is another nail going into the French and more especially Parisian tourist industry.

Numbers visiting the Lourve have been down over the last couple of years and this aint going to help it.

I know statistically some will argue the chance of terrorist attack is very small and there is more chance of being hit by bus, but how many would want to go visit somewhere that is a major target.

And I don't think it is comparable to the likes of London in 1980s/1990s where the PIRA were more interested in causing very expensive widespread damage to infrastructure rather than just killing people.

Vital Transformation

Don't bring a knife to a gunfight.

SnakePlissken

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

A lot of Muslums were shot. Pointed to a white supremicist. .

As was perfectly demonstrated by last year's mosque attack in Zurich... No wait, that wasn't a white supremacist after all, perhaps it's the murder of the two Imans in New York I'm thinking of, that was carried out by a white supremacist wasn't it... Well no, no it wasn't.

Mary63

I think its better to shoot them dead if only from an economic point of view.It costs thousands to keep people in prisons.

I wouldn't be thinking of hatchet mans family at all, I do think of the soldiers families though, so worrying to have your sons and daughters putting themselves in danger to protect us.

flutered

RobertKK wrote: »

Well good riddance, he will be in jail.

where he could end up being the virgin

Skylinehead

Moving on.

BabyCheeses

jmayo wrote: »

I have reported this post as it is libeling me with the inference that I am friends with and support white supremacists.

I am replying to this publicly because I want to see if Boards moderators actually sanction posters of a particular opinion rather than just always sanctioning and threatening those of the opposing viewpoint.

PS for you information I did post in the other thread and have never condoned that attack and actually in my last post there said that the death of the 6 muslims was 6 too many.
Innocent people do not deserve to die for someone elses screwed up cause and most especially in their place of worship.

Lol, what a little bitch.

I'm inferring you only want to bitch about Muslims. Keep up the victim complex.

Mod: Banned

jmayo

dav3 wrote: »

Who exactly is this person libeling[sic]? An anonymous cartoon character on the internet named 'jmayo'?
Not only would jmayo have to reveal his identity, but also have to prove that the other far-right extremists, racists and white supremacists posting on other forums under the name jmayo is not actually him...or her.

Ahh FFS.
Are you now saying someone can call another poster anything they like ?
The poster inferred that I was a white supremacist and thus inferring I would probably be happy with an attack by one.
Yes they didn't use my actual given name, but my username on this web forum, but that is still linked to my posts, my posting history, etc.

How would you like if I posted inferring you were something odious that you are not ?

I am not getting into this anymore as it diverts from actual subject and the mods will only be too happy to sanction me.

Felix Jones is God

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Yes, yes indeed , because a planned 30 man swat move is exactly the same as a split second 1 on 1 knife attack :rolleyes:

dav3

jmayo wrote: »

I have reported this post as it is libeling me with the inference that I am friends with and support white supremacists.

Who exactly is this person libeling[sic]? An anonymous cartoon character on the internet named 'jmayo'?
Not only would jmayo have to reveal his identity, but also have to prove that the other far-right extremists, racists and white supremacists posting on other forums under the name jmayo is not actually him...or her.

Skylinehead

jmayo wrote: »

I have reported this post as it is libeling me with the inference that I am friends with and support white supremacists.

I am replying to this publicly because I want to see if Boards moderators actually sanction posters of a particular opinion rather than just always sanctioning and threatening those of the opposing viewpoint.

PS for you information I did post in the other thread and have never condoned that attack and actually in my last post there said that the death of the 6 muslims was 6 too many.
Innocent people do not deserve to die for someone elses screwed up cause and most especially in their place of worship.

Mod: Don't comment on moderation in-thread

jmayo

BabyCheeses wrote: »

I'm sure you'll be sticking around this time then. Doesn't look like one of your mates.

I have reported this post as it is libeling me with the inference that I am friends with and support white supremacists.

I am replying to this publicly because I want to see if Boards moderators actually sanction posters of a particular opinion rather than just always sanctioning and threatening those of the opposing viewpoint.

PS for you information I did post in the other thread and have never condoned that attack and actually in my last post there said that the death of the 6 muslims was 6 too many.
Innocent people do not deserve to die for someone elses screwed up cause and most especially in their place of worship.