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Spring is here.

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Welcome Spring, goodbye Winter.

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Yourself isit

riffmongous wrote: »

And August 31st?

August 31st is fairly close to September. Isn't it.

[Deleted User]

Yourself isit wrote: »

It's 9:22 pm sunset, twilight ends at 10:03 on August 1st in Dublin.

And August 31st?

[Deleted User]

Kailyn Quaint Pillowcase wrote: »

The sun doesn't even go below the horizon until after 9 pm in August.

Check the sunset times foe end of august

Positively Negative

Junkyard Tom wrote:

Spring has sprung when the Bumble Bees return in numbers. I'd say being a Bumble Bee is some buzz.

We have been stuck in winter for at least 10 years so because them buzzers don't return in numbers at all these days

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

riffmongous wrote: »

A summer month where it's almost dark at half 8? Get outta that

The sun doesn't even go below the horizon until after 9 pm in August.

Yourself isit

riffmongous wrote: »

A summer month where it's almost dark at half 8? Get outta that

It's 9:22 pm sunset, twilight ends at 10:03 on August 1st in Dublin.

Yourself isit

red ears wrote: »

Its hard to argue November isn't winter in this country and its hard to say August isn't summer.

Our seasons feel like they fall in the middle of months.

Winter - Mid Nov to Mid Feb.
Spring - Mid Feb to Mid May.
Summer - Mid May to Mid Aug.
Autumn - Mid Aug to Mid Nov.

That's right. In fact the festival of imbolc (brighids day) used to be midway between Dec 21st and March 21st prior to the arrival of Christianity and more importantly roman months. That's not much later than Feb 1st this year (3rd but can be the 4th) but Samhain would be on the 6th November on 2017.

Not quite mid Feb or Nov.

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Larbre34 wrote: »

You're half right. It is getting darker, yes. However 50 year temp average for August in Ireland (day and night) is 16C, for May thats just 11C.

And besides, August is a summer month, May isnt. Doesnt get much more summery than a summer month eh?

A summer month where it's almost dark at half 8? Get outta that

Junkyard Tom

Spring has sprung when the Bumble Bees return in numbers. I'd say being a Bumble Bee is some buzz.

bnt

Spring is here? Oh, goodie!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhuMLpdnOjY

hot buttered scones

Kailyn Quaint Pillowcase wrote:

And 1st March is over 10:35. What's the point?

I don't know anymore. It's hopeless.

The Raptor

I'd like to think winter is over but I'm not quite so sure.

Larbre34

You're half right. It is getting darker, yes. However 50 year temp average for August in Ireland (day and night) is 16C, for May thats just 11C.

And besides, August is a summer month, May isnt. Doesnt get much more summery than a summer month eh?

JCX BXC

Not at all, you can get nice warm temperatures all the way into late September, recently the end of May has been nice enough but otherwise may is a fairly ****e month.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

hot buttered scones wrote: »

Right so - based on the length of days.
Nov 1 2016 had 9:35:53 hours of daylight
Nov 9 2016 had 9:07:54
Feb 1 2017 has 9:09:12
Feb 8 2017 will have 9:33:57

For convenience we align the seasons to the beginning of the months. There is little variation in this from year to year. Its just as good a way to define the seasons as by the climate (not the weather- I remember it being 12 deg C and sunny on Christmas day one year and it being the same sometime in mid July. The only difference was the day was longer in July)

And 1st March is over 10:35. What's the point?

JCX BXC

I find it hilarious that people ignore all the information given and just give a blanket statement of "well for it February is spring".

Well for me August is winter.
Sadly, I don't define seasons, weather does.

Arcade_Tryer

wakka12 wrote: »

Its dark at like 5 its so cold and wet and theres no flowers growing or leafy trees, how or why does anyone think this is spring

Because of "customs"...and "tradition"...

hot buttered scones

Right so - based on the length of days.
Nov 1 2016 had 9:35:53 hours of daylight
Nov 9 2016 had 9:07:54
Feb 1 2017 has 9:09:12
Feb 8 2017 will have 9:33:57

For convenience we align the seasons to the beginning of the months. There is little variation in this from year to year. Its just as good a way to define the seasons as by the climate (not the weather- I remember it being 12 deg C and sunny on Christmas day one year and it being the same sometime in mid July. The only difference was the day was longer in July)

Autonomous Cowherd

wakka12 wrote: »

Its dark at like 5 its so cold and wet and theres no flowers growing or leafy trees, how or why does anyone think this is spring

Spring is a progression, it can't have sprung all at once.

hot buttered scones

wakka12 wrote: »

Its dark at like 5 its so cold and wet and theres no flowers growing or leafy trees, how or why does anyone think this is spring

Ms. Cronin told me it was in junior infants. She was lovely.

hot buttered scones

Deleted User wrote: »

I live in Ireland long enough to know
November - March = winter
April-June is spring
July is summer in leap year, otherwise is autumn
August - October is autumn

That's a looonnngg winter. It's no wonder the Romans called this place Hibernia.
What's the leap year got to do with it?

wakka12

CyrilFiggis wrote: »

Spring traditionally starts in Ireland on 1 February. February will never be winter for me

Its dark at like 5 its so cold and wet and theres no flowers growing or leafy trees, how or why does anyone think this is spring

[Deleted User]

Captain Chaos wrote: »

So is August the start of Autumn then.... it's the old school ways that are wrong.

Summer = June July August
Autumn = September October November

I live in Ireland long enough to know
November - March = winter
April-June is spring
July is summer in leap year, otherwise is autumn
August - October is autumn

Conor Bourke

Despite being an agnostic I spent the day pulling rushes and weaving them into crosses. Couldn't give a fig about the religious significance, I just enjoyed the therapeutic activity and my friend and I had a laugh reminiscing about making them in primary school.

hot buttered scones

red ears wrote: »

Its hard to argue November isn't winter in this country and its hard to say August isn't summer.

Our seasons feel like they fall in the middle of months.

Winter - Mid Nov to Mid Feb.
Spring - Mid Feb to Mid May.
Summer - Mid May to Mid Aug.
Autumn - Mid Aug to Mid Nov.

Yeah, that sounds about right. It's just a bit tidier to have the seasons start and finish at the start and end of the months. I propose we add 2 weeks to December this year. That way Spring will fall exactly on the First on February and everyone will be happy. We also get 2 Christmases.

RobertKK

I never realised Spring was so controversial.

Arcade_Tryer

topper75 wrote: »

Today is the first day of Spring in Ireland.

Repeating something does not make it true. Nor does tradition.

hot buttered scones

topper75 wrote: »

By press I mean internet - people read articles from Al Jazeera, Huffington Post, RT etc. etc.

The EU wants to standardize things across their member states in so far as they can. The majority of EU territories have a continental climate. We are an outlier from that median but they will care as much as they cared when setting interest rates for a flagging Germany and a booming Ireland back in say 2005 :-). If we have always had our own ways of doing things - better stick by that. Of course belittling Irish calendar conventions isn't a secret conspiratorial objective of the EU commission, but it is worth watching where 'change' comes from especially with regard to attempts to fix that which is not broken.

This 'official' Irish body Met Eireann are paid by govt who are in turn in debt to outside interests. I don't see them becoming guardians of our traditions anytime soon.

Re: Met Eireann. It's probably just because they're a weather forecasting agency and they base the seasons on the weather, rather than the length of day (which is what the Irish calendar does). And why the quotes around official?? And I wouldn't expect a scientific institute to be the guardians of any traditions. It would be contrary to their purpose surely? Drawing a conclusion that Met Eireann definie the seasons by the meteorological standards because of a Government controlled by the machinations of some external power is a bit far fetched. Was there a sudden switch in their definition of Spring at some stage in the past? What does the EU have to gain by redefining the seasons in this country? Will it change the weather? Is there a brown envelope in it for Enda Kenny if we all start calling February winter?
I really worry about people who see conspiracy and oppression in everything, even the most mundane of things.

btw: Today is the first day of Spring, because this is Ireland and I use the Irish calendar. Met Eireann can say what they like. I know why they define it as such, and that's ok because it's a rational explanation. As is my understanding.

Arcade_Tryer

topper75 wrote: »

This 'official' Irish body Met Eireann are paid by govt who are in turn in debt to outside interests. I don't see them becoming guardians of our traditions anytime soon.

Good.

topper75

Arcade_Tryer wrote: »

Nonsense. It's 6 degrees celcius with a wind chill right now on the east coast. Spring my backside.

Have no idea what this means.

It means the four quarters of the year as they apply to this island.

Spring starts cold brother - no matter what side of the country you are in. It is the transition out of winter remember. Or were you picturing swallows flying in a blue sky as you sip your cider? That might be the Florida spring you are thinking of. Today is the first day of Spring in Ireland.