Jimmy Garlic wrote: » The placard waving zombie left who pretend to care about human rights (when it suits them) only come out of hibernation when things are not going their way. Obama and psychopath Clinton could do whatever they wanted and those who pretend to care about human rights couldn't give a damn. The "Arab Spring" and the domino effect of wars and migrant crisis that followed - Silence. Libya - Silence. Supporting Terrorists in Syria and all over the Middle East - Silence. Drone Strikes - Silence, etc etc. Lefty pawns have no minds of their own at all, biological robots programmed by their right-on gurus and Facebook.
Yourself isit wrote: » Its a totally different leftism though. When was the last time you saw the banners of the swp, or trade unions at these marches.
Gatling wrote: » The funny part is hypothetical posts decrying bombing and drone strikes while cheerleaders supporting other Bombings and military strikes by other players , But as long as it wasn't Obama or Clinton involved the moral fauxrage vanishes ,
cerastes wrote: » Yes, but at least hitler shot hitler, I dont see whats so funny about bombings and drone strikes?
Widdershins wrote: » Hitler didn't have the eyes of the world on him, anticipating what he might do to people.
Gatling wrote: » Funny Bombings and drone strikes still continues under trump along with an incursion into Yemen over the weekend , But that's ok because the it wasn't done by a black president that wasn't racist or elected by far right racists, Some people
Yourself isit wrote: » A detention "camp" (ie cell) is fairly common for people with visa violations in any country in the world, including here. I've been held myself. There's just far too much hysteria around trump. If people keep crying Nazi now then what happens later if he does go over the top. Add someone who had opposed the US foreign policy of the last few years I kind of welcome that the US is coming under the kind of scrutiny it always needed when bush Obama and Clinton were bombing Yemen, aiding al Queda, and de posing ghadaffi. Or torturing in guantanomo. Is a wee bit hypocritical though.
pilly wrote: » I never said people had the human right to live anywhere but the fact of the matter is that people who have legally applied for and been given a green card and made lives in the USA have the right to return there. Do you dispute this?
BorneTobyWilde wrote: » Media can blare the '' non constitutional '' text across the screen and invoke a huge reaction in people to protest. Do people really believe that the citizens of these 7 countries had a free pass to travel to the US before this 90 day ban. The ban is there to put in place better vetting, it's put in place to improve upon what was already there under Obama. The only thing that has changed is this temporary 90 day ban. I'm sure after this ban that it will become more difficult for anyone to slip through the net. You can't have a situation like in Europe where people come and go to Syria and simply walk back in to Europe to slaughter people. It is clearly not a Muslim ban. As for refugees ,does it matter their religion ? Should Trump choose Muslims over Christians ? If the US only takes Christian refugees then it should not be frowned upon. It would actually solve a problem. Europe wants US to do it's part, so why not send them Christian refugees.
Jimmy Garlic wrote: » The lefts Uncle Joe Stalin and the Bolsheviks were a lot worse than Hitler and the Nazis in terms of the body count they stacked up, but nobody compares anyone to them. They barely get a mention. The political left never ever ever mentions them. Airbrushed from the history books.
Ulysses Gaze wrote: » The argument used is that Stalinism is not Marxism; that Stalinism is a bastardised form of Marxism. That's the defence used anyway.
Widdershins wrote: » Oh God yes, excellent point. Erm..might it be because, you know, it's a bit of a stain on the communist utopian ideals they often seem to favour? An inconvenient part of history for the Left
wes wrote: » Democracies should always be held to a higher standard, than a dictatorship, or a near failed 3rd world country. When, you claim to be the leader of the free world, its only right to be held to that standard. Secondly, the whole line of argument smacks of whatabotery. Sure, I could say, well sure what those countries do is bad, but look how Israel treats Palestinians in the West Bank. Its a simple distraction, that lets people excuse this kind of carry on.
degsie wrote: » With Trump's executive order on Muslim immigration, his siding up with Russia and his spat with Mexico, alongside the UK turning its back on Europe, we are heading towards a darker place. The world seems a little less safe right now.
Havockk wrote: » In this context it's quite clear the idea is to 'round' people up 'instead' of processing in the normal fashion. This is EXACTLY what Hitler did. It simply cannot be defended.
Yourself isit wrote: » A detention "camp" (ie cell) is fairly common for people with visa violations in any country in the world, including here. I've been held myself.
Havockk wrote: » Really? Really?https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/01/29/trump-asked-for-a-muslim-ban-giuliani-says-and-ordered-a-commission-to-do-it-legally/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_giuliani-435pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.a867a0fcf840 Watch this and then ask yourself what is the meaningful difference between a 'detention camp' and a 'concentration camp'. Both Giuliani and the 'Judge' interviewing him think they sound like a 'great idea' altogether. It's a worrying time in the world, when such fascist thinking is openly spoken, only a half dozen years ago this kind of talk would have been simply shunned yet we have a situation that even on a community board in Ireland it's suddenly quite acceptable to espouse genuine fascist ideology.
Jimmy Garlic wrote: » Herding people into camps :rolleyes: Such a load of hysterical trash. Try to get a grip on reality, it's slipping away from you.
dfeo wrote: » No one thought Hitler would ever go that far ... but he did.
wes wrote: » So America is now at the same level of dictatorships, and near failed states. Some achievement from Trump on that.
