Danjamin1 wrote: » Not sure if it's been mentioned yet but it's worth a second mention anyway - People who indicate DURING the maneuver, what f***ing use is that to anyone?!?!
NiallBoo wrote: » It's nothing to do with the N plate. This will happen throughout your driving days and no matter what speed you're going. The only thing that might change is learning to not get annoyed by it.
Gavinz wrote: » I don't really get annoyed by it. It's more that I just don't understand it. Just overtake me.
Shenshen wrote: » Only until you get near Cork, then all bets are off.
NiallBoo wrote: » Fair enough, I don't get it either, it's never helpful. Often slower drivers are nervous drivers and driving up their årse just makes them more nervous and go even slower. Usually it's so close that you can't build up speed for overtaking. Pointless because you can only overtake on rare chances anyway. Not to mention unsafe...
Gavinz wrote: » I'm on an N plate. So, people who drive up my arse when I'm exactly at the speed limit but won't overtake. **** off cnut. I don't have enough points to be accommodating you. Leave earlier if you're in a rush.
carefulnowted wrote: » Drivers who think that seeing an L plate gives them permission to bully an already nervous new driver.
WestWicklow1 wrote: » Ouch!! Does this happen? I haven't been an L plate driver for almost 50 years. Does this happen? How is it done? Have you personal experience of it?
Trebor176 wrote: » I've seen it happen that moronic drivers would beep at learners, if they conk out at lights, or some will drive around them, which can only add to panic, if the learner is nervous. I'm sure such morons will tailgate as well.
pablo128 wrote: » Just this morning I was driving my partners Yaris to the NCT centre. The amount of people tailgating me was unreal. And it doesn't have N or L plates either. I rarely get tailgated in my own car, an Avensis. What the mugs don't expect though, is a small car with good quality tyres and an experienced driver. So when one lad tried a power undertake using a 24 hour bus lane, he didn't expect to almost collide with a traffic island up ahead where the bus lane ends.;)
railer201 wrote: » The Yaris seems to have taken over the title of 'galloping maggot' which was previously held by the old Morris Minor. There's nothing much wrong with the Yaris but they do seem to attract slow drivers for the most part.
pablo128 wrote: » I was genuinely driving at roughly 10mph over the speed limit most of the journey which is all straight stretches of road. From the top end of Tallaght along that outer ring road to the Fonthill NCT centre. I get what you're saying but some people have a superiority complex behind the wheel.
railer201 wrote: » Cyclists who switch from road to path for their own convenience and expect pedestrians to move out of their way. Learner or nervous cyclists who respect pedestrians right of way - no problem even though it is illegal - but experienced cyclists should know better.
AndrewJRenko wrote: » Insightful response from one UK police force to this issue;https://twitter.com/MPSCamdenTnSgt/status/819199668991229953
railer201 wrote: » Making footpaths dangerous for pedestrians in turn is not the answer.
AndrewJRenko wrote: » I think you've missed the point.
railer201 wrote: » If you were to read my post before responding you would glean that the issue is neither the condition of the roads or even cycling on footpaths per se, rather the expectation on the part of cyclists that pedestrians should give way to them. Primrose Hill and the police and dangerous road conditions have no relevance to my post.
AndrewJRenko wrote: » Apologies, my error - I didn't realise that you were telepathic and able to read the minds of the cyclists in question to understand exactly why they chose the pavement over the road.
nice_guy80 wrote: » Using the brake instead of just decelerating in time The brake is for emergencies or bringing a car to a stop
railer201 wrote: » Perhaps it's because I live in the area and cycle those routes daily. Experienced cyclists like myself have no problem with the roads in my local area - footpaths are for pedestrians. Cyclists who expect pedestrians to jump out of their way whilst riding on footpaths have some cheek and their apologists, whether obliquely or otherwise, are not much better.