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Are indicators an optional extra on new cars..

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jonon9

Can't cure stupid.

Potential-Monke

Used to be an optional extra on just Mercs, BMW's and Landrovers, but now it seems to be an optional extra on most cars.

cnoc

jacksie66 wrote: »

.. because nobody seems to know how or when to use them. Roundabouts and indicators go as well together as ISIS at a gay pride parade..
Sorry for the rant but I nearly crashed this morning because someone decided to use the wrong lane at a roundabout without an indicator..

What age profile was the driver?

red ears

There should be penalty points for not using them properly.

Kimbot

Yes indicators are optional extras going by the new cars I see on the roads. Also I see full beams with all the time on running option are standard on all new motors too.

Parchment

Seem to be an extra option on shiny new audis and bmws!

paddydriver

Don't forget the new rule that minimum of 2 extra cars can continue to proceed through a junction after the lights have gone red..

nhunter100

jonnycivic wrote:

Yes indicators are optional extras going by the new cars I see on the roads. Also I see full beams with all the time on running option are standard on all new motors too.

Welcome to the wonderful world of driving populated by Dick heads and Morons. Just pay attention and you'll be grand.

Winterlong

It's just energy conservation is all.

Kimbot

nhunter100 wrote: »

Welcome to the wonderful world of driving populated by Dick heads and Morons. Just pay attention and you'll be grand.

Oh im well used to them all at this stage now

Parchment

nhunter100

jonnycivic wrote:

Oh im well used to them all at this stage now

Good, you like I have overcome the shock that Darwins law hasn't caught up with those idiots yet but it will. :-)

duffman3833

they might think there saving some mpg's by not using them

Harry Palmr

Always been the case on BMWs, esp 3 series.

Kimbot

nhunter100 wrote: »

Good, you like I have overcome the shock that Darwins law hasn't caught up with those idiots yet but it will. :-)

I really hope darwins law can take care of those people that drive around when its still daylight out with their full beams on, then I will live happily ever after

whiskeyman

I think not using them is still better than using them incorrectly!

I never trust indicators anymore... I've seen too many crashes caused by incorrect / assumptions over indicators, that you're best not to trust them. To 'indicate' is only to suggest a course anyway.

Trusting an indicator is trusting the driver using them...
No thanks...

Graces7

I have seen many drivers stopped at lights or road works with hazard warning lights on;probably got tailgated by someone with no intention of stopping on red.

DrumSteve

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Always been the case on BMWs, esp 3 series.

I had a 3 series.

The indicators are on there and they worked fine. My only issue was the lights started to flash when I got too close to the car in front of me on the motorway. Great safety feature in fairness.

Potential-Monke

Graces7 wrote: »

I have seen many drivers stopped at lights or road works with hazard warning lights on;probably got tailgated by someone with no intention of stopping on red.

According to the lad who was doing my driving test, you're supposed to have hazards on when stopped at road works. That was 10 years ago mind, and apparently it doesn't matter if the road is lit up with flashing orange lights indicating that there's roadworks.

Harry Palmr

whiskeyman wrote: »

I think not using them is still better than using them incorrectly!

I never trust indicators anymore... I've seen too many crashes caused by incorrect / assumptions over indicators, that you're best not to trust them. To 'indicate' is only to suggest a course anyway.

Trusting an indicator is trusting the driver using them...
No thanks...

As someone who is a full time pedestrian these days I agree, roundabouts are a challenge, always wait to see where they actually go!

jimgoose

Graces7 wrote: »

I have seen many drivers stopped at lights or road works with hazard warning lights on;probably got tailgated by someone with no intention of stopping on red.

I consider it a good idea when there's traffic behind me to flip on the hazards on encountering an unexpected situation like roadworks or parked/stopped vehicles on country roads, usually. I don't leave them on, though - that's not necessary, the idea is to alert the driver(s) behind to the situation.

jimgoose

I've taken to not believing a word when I see an indicator on around town/suburbia. It's usually either incorrect use or else it's been on since the last turn. I have been developing my Haregai skills instead. This situation seems to get worse the newer the car. :pac:

Kimbot

jimgoose wrote: »

I consider it a good idea when there's traffic behind me to flip on the hazards on encountering an unexpected situation like roadworks or parked/stopped vehicles on country roads, usually. I don't leave them on, though - that's not necessary, the idea is to alert the driver(s) behind to the situation.

Yeah, I have seen it once or twice at a bridge in laois that is constantly undergoing roadworks. All the signs in the world are there to let you know that there are traffic lights up ahead and to expect delays etc. People sitting waiting on lights and bang some car just goes straight through the back of them.

logically

/Waits patiently for thread to transform into one about cyclists... predictably....."they don't pay road tax, Joe" and "they always run red lights, Joe", and "they always ride on the footpath, Joe" and "I heard they always give immigrants free bikes, Joe" and "Joe, everyone does silly things on the road apart from me, Joe." Joe. Joe? Joe? BEEEEEP.

jimgoose

logically wrote: »

/Waits patiently for thread to transform into one about cyclists... predictably....."they don't pay road tax, Joe" and "they always run red lights, Joe", and "they always ride on the footpath, Joe" and "I heard they always give immigrants free bikes, Joe" and "Joe, everyone does silly things on the road apart from me, Joe." Joe. Joe? Joe? BEEEEEP.

Good point, actually - indicators would be no harm on bicycles either.

andekwarhola

A lot of Irish drivers don't realize that indicators are thus called because they're used to indicate your driving manoeuvre in advance of it being performed. As opposed to an (optional) accompaniment to it.

jimgoose

andekwarhola wrote: »

A lot of Irish drivers don't realize that indicators are thus called because they're used to indicate your manoeuvre in advance of it being performed.

As opposed to an optional accompaniment to it.

Oh yes, the old "Indicators are for turning!" mob. :pac:

logically

jimgoose wrote: »

I've taken to not believing a word when I see an indicator on around town/suburbia. It's usually either incorrect use or else it's been on since the last turn. I have been developing my Haregai skills instead. This situation seems to get worse the newer the car. :pac:

This is one of the very first lessons my Dad taught me when learning to drive. He asked "What does an indicator tell you?" . Me : "That the person is turning in that direction". Dad : "No son, it means the person just has their indicator on - it means nothing more than that."

Graces7

jimgoose wrote: »

I consider it a good idea when there's traffic behind me to flip on the hazards on encountering an unexpected situation like roadworks or parked/stopped vehicles on country roads, usually. I don't leave them on, though - that's not necessary, the idea is to alert the driver(s) behind to the situation.

Exactly and it is an idea I have copied and adhered to.

Graces7

We used to call the "trafficators"in the old days when they were like little hands that shot out from the car, or when we only had hand signals.. Ah the good old days!