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buying cattle in the west of ireland and bringing them to better ground

bosallagh

is there many doing this? was thinking of buying bullers in maybe mohill for replacements where is the best mart in the west for this type of cattle?

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cacs

Who2 wrote: »

I lived in letter frack too and a serious number of scrub bulls. Very little ai, out by ballyconneely alright there were good cattle but letter frack they were middling enough, mam cross I found to be full of thin agey miserable animals with horns two foot long, unless it's changed recently.

I agree scrubs everywhere very poor quality

kk.man

Love the stories in the book 'Cattleman'.
.by Raymond Keogh...buying cattle in the west and grazing them in the east

Sam Kade

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

I was on the Aran Islands once and couldn't see a sheep anywhere. I asked a taxi driver 'how come'. I thought it would be an ideal place for them with all the stone walls. He looked confused.:(

The only time I was on the Aran islands was inis mor many years ago and sheep were the last thing on my mind

The pub and young women more like

We were also amazed that there were no trees there.

sonnybill

Who2 wrote: »

I lived in letter frack too and a serious number of scrub bulls. Very little ai, out by ballyconneely alright there were good cattle but letter frack they were middling enough, mam cross I found to be full of thin agey miserable animals with horns two foot long, unless it's changed recently.

Id say the odd man in any area with a small amount of cows for handiness will have a good calf from the year before bought in for the job.

Yeah you are right Ballyconneely/Clifden/Claddaghduff and all round there is a great hotspot for good cattle and some great breed of cows in it. Were you out there many years ago ?

Bullocks

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Have done a good bit of work on Inis Mor. There is one lad who AI's Purebred Parthanise see pics below. There is another lad who has/had two PB Limo bulls which he imported from Athenry. Bought two of his lmx and they came good for me. Terrible amount of rubbish on the island. The two lads im talking about bring in cows and the lad with the two Lim bulls keeps the heifers for the other bull.

I know the lad with the Parts , some advertisement for them really and truly , he keeps his stock in brilliant nick

CloughCasey1

sonnybill wrote: »

+1, good white or grey calf will do for the next year, bull in every second garden

Have done a good bit of work on Inis Mor. There is one lad who AI's Purebred Parthanise see pics below. There is another lad who has/had two PB Limo bulls which he imported from Athenry. Bought two of his lmx and they came good for me. Terrible amount of rubbish on the island. The two lads im talking about bring in cows and the lad with the two Lim bulls keeps the heifers for the other bull.

TITANIUM.

Bass Reeves wrote: »

If you want good cattle from an island get the one's off Dursey Island off Glengarriff. I reckon the best cattle in the country come from the Bera and Iveragh Peinsula in Kerry and the nearer the USA there they are the better they're

Dursey Island is off lambs head West of Castletown Bere. A good hours drive from Glengarriff. Your right though. It speaks for itself when you see lad's travelling from way up the country to buy cattle down this neck of the woods.

Who2

sonnybill wrote: »

That's good cattle breeding area and prob 90% Ai as smaller herd size , match the cow to the bull rather than one size fits all, she'd turn on your ground alright in comparison , Clifden mart has serious quality on the big days, ma'am cross very good too and always more numbers and I find cheaper, huge trade on lambs

I lived in letter frack too and a serious number of scrub bulls. Very little ai, out by ballyconneely alright there were good cattle but letter frack they were middling enough, mam cross I found to be full of thin agey miserable animals with horns two foot long, unless it's changed recently.

sonnybill

Peter90 wrote: »

Based in South Galway, bought a heifer came cheap seen on card letterfrack, has turned inside out serious animal, another in that bunch from Aran Islands, great thriver, the old lads would always say buy cattle from poor land and will always do well

That's good cattle breeding area and prob 90% Ai as smaller herd size , match the cow to the bull rather than one size fits all, she'd turn on your ground alright in comparison , Clifden mart has serious quality on the big days, ma'am cross very good too and always more numbers and I find cheaper, huge trade on lambs

sonnybill

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

All scrub bulls in Aran, fella here buys a lot of cattle there and I often collected them in the docks in Galway for him. I wouldn't be struck on them either!

+1, good white or grey calf will do for the next year, bull in every second garden

patsy_mccabe

I was on the Aran Islands once and couldn't see a sheep anywhere. I asked a taxi driver 'how come'. I thought it would be an ideal place for them with all the stone walls. He looked confused.:(

Who2

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

All scrub bulls in Aran, fella here buys a lot of cattle there and I often collected them in the docks in Galway for him. I wouldn't be struck on them either!

i worked out on the three islands over the summer and was actually extremely surprised by the standard of cattle out there. yes in fairness some use scrub bulls but theres a few that use ai and a couple of good bulls. there was one lad brought me out to show me his cattle and all i can saw is id love a herd of his cows. 7-800kg animals with layers of milk and right well marked.

Bullocks

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

That's their genetics. No advantage in growing higher than the stone walls. They'd be exposed to all the harsh wind.

Or lack of genetics , a rake of them sharing the same scrub bull

bogman_bass

carrollsno1 wrote: »

Woukd it be fair to say that the western cattle would have more maternal breeding?

I would say the opposite

Bass Reeves

If you want good cattle from an island get the one's off Dursey Island off Glengarriff. I reckon the best cattle in the country come from the Bera and Iveragh Peinsula in Kerry and the nearer the USA there they are the better they're

Limestone Cowboy

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

That's their genetics. No advantage in growing higher than the stone walls. They'd be exposed to all the harsh wind.

All scrub bulls in Aran, fella here buys a lot of cattle there and I often collected them in the docks in Galway for him. I wouldn't be struck on them either!

patsy_mccabe

Bullocks wrote: »

Some great cattle in Conemara but I never liked the stuff coming in from Aran , they never seemed to want to grow much more when they come in

That's their genetics. No advantage in growing higher than the stone walls. They'd be exposed to all the harsh wind.

Mac Taylor

Bullocks wrote: »

Some great cattle in Conemara but I never liked the stuff coming in from Aran , they never seemed to want to grow much more when they come in

A lot of good things come out of conemara:D A few lads around here buy lambs but they have great fences.
Mind you one lad had to pay for replacement shrubs when they decimated his neighbours garden.

Peter90

Mac Taylor wrote: »

Peter, where were you picking these up? Gort or Maam cross?

Picked them up of a dealer but they came from maam cross mart

Bullocks

Peter90 wrote: »

Based in South Galway, bought a heifer came cheap seen on card letterfrack, has turned inside out serious animal, another in that bunch from Aran Islands, great thriver, the old lads would always say buy cattle from poor land and will always do well

Some great cattle in Conemara but I never liked the stuff coming in from Aran , they never seemed to want to grow much more when they come in

Mac Taylor

Peter90 wrote: »

Based in South Galway, bought a heifer came cheap seen on card letterfrack, has turned inside out serious animal, another in that bunch from Aran Islands, great thriver, the old lads would always say buy cattle from poor land and will always do well

Peter, where were you picking these up? Gort or Maam cross?

Limestone Cowboy

Stealthfins wrote: »

Often on my way home or twoards Kilfenora I see the place packed out with farmers from all over the West.

I must drop in sometime, get a few short horns

You'll find a lot more golden Charolais than shorthorns inside there!

Peter90

Based in South Galway, bought a heifer came cheap seen on card letterfrack, has turned inside out serious animal, another in that bunch from Aran Islands, great thriver, the old lads would always say buy cattle from poor land and will always do well

Stealthfins

The land back west is a lot cleaner and doesn't really suffer from chemicals and the type of farming you'll see across the Shannon.

With all the wild herb's different grasses and limestone it's great for the cattle, especially the waters full of calcium.

Great for the mate.

Stealthfins

Limestone Cowboy wrote:

You won't beat the stock out of Kilfenora

Often on my way home or twoards Kilfenora I see the place packed out with farmers from all over the West.

I must drop in sometime, get a few short horns

cacs

flutered wrote: »

dealers alyaws seem to buy calves and weanlings in the mid west and tipp area then sell them up the west, they have been at it since i was a nipper and probably well before that

I would always check cards at mart before i buy

flutered

dealers alyaws seem to buy calves and weanlings in the mid west and tipp area then sell them up the west, they have been at it since i was a nipper and probably well before that

Pidae.m

Or the prices

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

You won't beat the stock out of Kilfenora:D

Limestone Cowboy

Stealthfins wrote: »

Kilfenora in the Burren have a mart some evening s during the week.
They're usually hardy enough back that way.

They spend a lot of time in the winterage up in the Burren

You won't beat the stock out of Kilfenora:D

Cattlepen

The cattle from the west are definitely the best stock. Years of good breeding. But you will pay plenty for them. The marts are well attended by canny men that know their job. Don't expect them cheap