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Neighbourhood Watch Merged Thread

January

Has anti social behaviour in Dublin 15 affected you?

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PucaMama

punisher5112 wrote: »

Its a grey area but if an intruder is in or on your property and is a threat in layman's terms you can meet that threat with force which must be proportionate to avoid ones life being taken if you so do believe.

Its easy for one to say they would defend but in all honesty its until one is in that position is the only time one would know if they can or not.

Example if I broke into your house and you hit me and I got hurt that's my problem but I could still try and get money out of you.

Its very tuff for them to prove unless you say went overkill and stabbed many times and cut one up etc.

Alarm, CCTV and dogs are a great deterrent to have.
On the dog part if they are on your own property then that is a none issue.

If that last line is true that's great. My dogs sleep between what I consider our weakest spot for security (a wooden frame old window) and the rest of the house.

I'm wary of cctv. Saw a man on uk tv program who had theives take his car then kick in doors and beat him up to destroy cctv evidence.

punisher5112

PucaMama wrote: »

I have 4 dogs but apparently I can get in trouble if they bite an intruder. Which I think is unfair.

What does reasonable force count for tho? If I believe an intruder will do me harm can I batter him with something?

I think I should be allowed let my dogs take a few bites out of them.

Its a grey area but if an intruder is in or on your property and is a threat in layman's terms you can meet that threat with force which must be proportionate to avoid ones life being taken if you so do believe.

Its easy for one to say they would defend but in all honesty its until one is in that position is the only time one would know if they can or not.

Example if I broke into your house and you hit me and I got hurt that's my problem but I could still try and get money out of you.

Its very tuff for them to prove unless you say went overkill and stabbed many times and cut one up etc.

Alarm, CCTV and dogs are a great deterrent to have.
On the dog part if they are on your own property then that is a none issue.

PucaMama

punisher5112 wrote: »

You can within reason and a dog may be a good deterrent and an alarm.

One can use reasonable force to defend oneself and their home.
Within reason and reasonable are of course open for scrutiny but if it were me and I was faced with a chance to defend I would have no issue doing so.

Hope they catch them and get all the gear back.

I have 4 dogs but apparently I can get in trouble if they bite an intruder. Which I think is unfair.

What does reasonable force count for tho? If I believe an intruder will do me harm can I batter him with something?

I think I should be allowed let my dogs take a few bites out of them.

Larbre34

Every Garda will tell you, no alarm technology is any substitute for a shouty dog. Doesnt have to be particularly big or vicious, but burglars avoid taking chances with them. I remember in my younger years a spate of break-ins one night and it was like a passover of houses with any sort of mutt.

dickwod1

Some windows are externally glazed so when the slips are removed the pane of glass can be taken out - A way to prevent this is to remove the slips take out the glass and run a bead of silicone around the frame where it meets the glass and reinstall.

horse7

amtc wrote: »

My parents live in Glenville and nearly every house was targeted last night. Every single one was back kitchen window taken out. Only downstairs targeted, just tvs and car keys.

How were windows taken out?

punisher5112

PucaMama wrote: »

This is getting ridiculous. We should be allowed have things to defend our homes.

You can within reason and a dog may be a good deterrent and an alarm.

One can use reasonable force to defend oneself and their home.
Within reason and reasonable are of course open for scrutiny but if it were me and I was faced with a chance to defend I would have no issue doing so.

Hope they catch them and get all the gear back.

Zaph

phoenix49 wrote: »

These people deserve to be injured, to degree they can't steal anymore! Btw, is Glenville in Dublin 15?

phoenix49, posts encouraging violence, no matter how justified you may feel it is, are not permitted on the site. Please refrain from making any more comments of this nature. Thanks.

phoenix49

amtc wrote: »

My parents live in Glenville and nearly every house was targeted last night. Every single one was back kitchen window taken out. Only downstairs targeted, just tvs and car keys.

These people deserve to be injured, to degree caught and charged so they can't steal anymore! Btw, is Glenville in Dublin 15?

RTT

amtc wrote:

My parents live in Glenville and nearly every house was targeted last night. Every single one was back kitchen window taken out. Only downstairs targeted, just tvs and car keys.

Did any alarms go off? I'm surprised to hear of so many houses being targeted without the burglars being disturbed.

PucaMama

amtc wrote: »

My parents live in Glenville and nearly every house was targeted last night. Every single one was back kitchen window taken out. Only downstairs targeted, just tvs and car keys.

This is getting ridiculous. We should be allowed have things to defend our homes.

amtc

My parents live in Glenville and nearly every house was targeted last night. Every single one was back kitchen window taken out. Only downstairs targeted, just tvs and car keys.

Larbre34

My guess is, he's already gone.

AlanG

Thanks,
It is good to know about these things, if he refused to take part in any rehab program while in prison then in my opinion he has no right to be given a total fresh start and he should be tracked.

eviltwin

PucaMama wrote: »

And for those who aren't mothers but live and work in the area?

If you work in the area you will probably be in work most of the day. Ditto those who are local but travel to work. Women who are in the complex who are most likely to be out alone are most vulnerable, he will be able to watch them, see their movements etc. This is possibly how he has found his victims in the past. No one is saying any other woman doesn't matter but if you're not around the place as often you're less of a target.

Gaspode

Other than that sunday world article, does anyone have any links to news reports about this? How come a mob showing up at this guys place didn't make the news? Neither did the Garda statements. Well I cant find any anyway, so links would be useful.

PucaMama

Phil.x wrote: »

I'd say it's because they are in the local area more, (school run, shops, playground etc) than a woman who works in city centre all day long.

And for those who aren't mothers but live and work in the area?

PucaMama

Arciphel wrote: »

Just in relation to the above story: I agree with stories like this a lot of the time they are akin to the "Larry Murphy spotted in your area" rubbish that seems to be all over Facebook.

But in this case it was confirmed by the gardai that this guy was living in the area, a few Facebook posts over the weekend caused a lot of concern in the area and apparently a group of people gathered outside this individuals house on Sunday. They were met by the gardai who told them that the individual in question had already been moved into different housing outside the area. But it does seem that there are some houses & apartments in this area that are using as some kind of supervised accommodation for individuals like this, which residents in the area are rightly very concerned about.

It is of course right to be concerned about them but the wording of the mother bit was irritating

Kev.

Some good pictures of Michael Murray

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/picture-exclusive-serial-rapist-michael-murray-lives-beside-ucd-and-sunbathes-on-college-campus-31297288.html

Arciphel

Just in relation to the above story: I agree with stories like this a lot of the time they are akin to the "Larry Murphy spotted in your area" rubbish that seems to be all over Facebook.

But in this case it was confirmed by the gardai that this guy was living in the area, a few Facebook posts over the weekend caused a lot of concern in the area and apparently a group of people gathered outside this individuals house on Sunday. They were met by the gardai who told them that the individual in question had already been moved into different housing outside the area. But it does seem that there are some houses & apartments in this area that are using as some kind of supervised accommodation for individuals like this, which residents in the area are rightly very concerned about.

Phil.x

PucaMama wrote: »

Why do they emphasise "stay at home mums" surely the risk is to all the local women or do they think mothers are more important

I'd say it's because they are in the local area more, (school run, shops, playground etc) than a woman who works in city centre all day long.

Gaspode

It's the Sunday World, fear mongering & exaggeration is their business. They'll never let facts get in the way of a good facebook share.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

PucaMama wrote: »

Why do they emphasise "stay at home mums" surely the risk is to all the local women or do they think mothers are more important

It's just fear mongering. People won't feel safe in their own homes etc. etc.

PucaMama

Phil.x wrote: »

Just for your info.

https://www.sundayworld.com/news/news/serial-sex-beast-is-re-homed-as-past-is-discovered-by-neighbours

Why do they emphasise "stay at home mums" surely the risk is to all the local women or do they think mothers are more important

Phil.x

Just for your info.

https://www.sundayworld.com/news/news/serial-sex-beast-is-re-homed-as-past-is-discovered-by-neighbours

ThisRegard

The majority don't. You get discounts for having no claims within a certain period, some may even offer bigger discounts the longer you've been claim free, but you don't have an NCB sliding scale, NCB protection etc like motor that can be transferred over. Have you received NCB letters with each home renewal you have had?

If what you say is true, many many people coming from an insurer who doesn't do this will effectively be penalised for trying to move insurers because their insurer won't have an NCB letter for them, so they'll be quoted the highest rate possible, as if they've claimed, by the new insurer.

Shemale

ThisRegard wrote: »

Unless all other insurers come to an agreed standard on it, it's pretty useless, and the one that does is probably not worth sticking with.

Nonsense, you still have had a claim when you contact another insurance company who will ask if you have had a claim in the last three/ five years.

The majority of them have no claims bonuses on household now.

Shiranui

Yesterday 08/01/2017 around 19:00 two cop cars caught and cuffed a young lad in a baseball cap.
It was on the corner near St Philips Church, close to the entrance of Huntsown Park.
One street away cops were interviewing some people.
No idea what happened.

athtrasna

peaceboi wrote: »

Colleague's 2005 Nissan Micra got stolen yesterday night between 8.30pm -9pm! Car was parked on the driveway Brandon square, Waterville.

A couple of clusters around there have seen increased crime in the past 12 months or so. The gardai and the council are investigating

peaceboi

Colleague's 2005 Nissan Micra got stolen yesterday night between 8.30pm -9pm! Car was parked on the driveway Brandon square, Waterville.