durtybit wrote: » Dangerous if you have to swerve to avoid, but it if you have plenty of room slow down to the merging traffic where is the danger?
red ears wrote: » People pulling out in front of you and leaving you to hit the breaks to avoid a crash. They know you have seen them and have plenty of time to slow down but its really annoying all the same.
Sam Kade wrote: » The dope merging is supposed to keep their eyes open to oncoming traffic, why should aproaching traffic have to take action?
mikeymouse wrote: » Courtesy
durtybit wrote: » If it safe to merge the can. Frankly if you don't take action you might cause an accident.
Sam Kade wrote: » But it isn't safe to merge.
Means Of Escape wrote: » Hazard warning lights used to "thank " a driver who has pulled in (illegally )over the hard shoulder line to let them pass .
dr.fuzzenstein wrote: » It is not illegal. It is illegal to drive on the hard shoulder on the motorway , but on a normal road you are allowed to pull in and let traffic pass.
NiallBoo wrote: » It's legal, but can still be a bad a bad idea. You often see people pulling in where there's bend coming up or the road is about to narrow.
Pinch Flat wrote: » The hard shoulder is also used by cyclists and pedestrians.
Sam Kade wrote: » What are these breaks people keep referring to?
AndrewJRenko wrote: » Ask the Irish Times and/or AA Roadwatchhttp://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/ice-and-snow-still-an-issue-on-routes-across-country-aa-1.2935754
MadDog76 wrote: » Sam was referring to the word "breaks" when it should be "brakes".
AA Roadwatch also advised drivers to use major routes where possible as they are more likely to have been gritted than secondary roads. If drivers skid on the roads, they should not break fast, but reduce acceleration and gears to stop gradually.
AndrewJRenko wrote: » Yes so was the Irish Times. :rolleyes:
maudgonner wrote: » Yes, and that article has advice from the AA that makes the same mistake:
Pinch Flat wrote: » I don't believe this is true. You're allowed to pull into the hard shoulder to pass a car turning right. Its not legal to drive in it, if I'm doing the limit or close to it and someone wants to pass me, there's no obligation on me to pull over and let them pass. The hard shoulder is also used by cyclists and pedestrians.
This road contains a hard shoulder, which is normally only for pedestrians and cyclists. If a driver wants to allow a vehicle behind them to overtake, they may pull in to the hard shoulder briefly as long as no pedestrians or cyclists are already using it and no junctions or entrances are nearby. Different rules exist for hard shoulders on motorways. See Section 11 for details
MadDog76 wrote: » *shrug* Wasn't ar5ed reading the link ......... but thanks anyway. :cool:
JohnBoy26 wrote: » Incorrectly installed headlight bulbs that blind the sh1te out of other road users.
Means Of Escape wrote: » If you strike someone or a stationary vehicle driving on the hard shoulder on either a motorway or primary road your insurance will wash their hands of you Furthermore a truck pulling in to let you pass when clearly you should wait until you can pass without the truck pulling in . It may have to pull out suddenly if a vehicle appears as it pulls out of a minor road junction which is inherently dangerous Hard shoulders are not to be driven on and are designed to facilitate people to pull in and stop .
dr.fuzzenstein wrote: » Yeah, but it's not illegal.
Means Of Escape wrote: » Will you get a ticket from a Garda if you drive on the hard shoulder on a primary road ? Can one drive on the hard shoulder if there is a traffic jam and one is not turning left further up the road ?
Sam Kade wrote: » Same here Who has time for reading links?
Sam Kade wrote: » Surely it's the idiot writing the article that made that mistake? Break fast
