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Nintendo Switch (Nintendo's next console)

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http://kotaku.com/nintendos-next-console-is-code-named-the-nintendo-nx-1691867268

"As proof that Nintendo maintains strong enthusiasm for the dedicated game system business", Iwata adds, "let me confirm that Nintendo is currently developing a dedicated game platform with a brand new concept under the development codename 'NX'."

And...that's it. Iwata says Nintendo will share more information about the new hardware "next year".

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BrianG23

Pretty crazy seeing some comments here...

Uncharted doesn't interest anyone? The last of us? RPGs in general? Those heavy rain games? Racing games? GTA(unless you're on PC)...Gran turismo anyone? Best racing game experience I ever had was GT5 with a racing wheel. Red dead redemption no?

I could go on and on and on. I'm not gonna pretend I care about reviews or GOTY awards...but if you've stuck to a nintendo system you've missed out on some of the greatest games. If you've stuck to a PC you've missed out too.

If you can afford a good PC thats great. Throw in a nintendo sure, you're hitting alot of those 3rd parties. But thats quite expensive when you can get all of the third parties on a playstation along with...an **** load of diverse exclusives. Heck even the little ones like Journey were great. Not even going to get into the Ps3 cause if you missed that then you REALLY missed out. http://www.thetoptens.com/best-ps3-only-games/

Heres some ps4 games coming out this year http://www.cheatsheet.com/technology/5-upcoming-exclusive-games-for-playstation-4.html/?a=viewall

Ignoring their existence doesn't make it true.

Try an justify it all you want. Playstation does have alot more exclusives than Nintendo and you're living in a dream world if you can't see that, year after year there is gonna be multiple games from every genre that aren't on a PC or nintendo. Xbox used to but for some reason ditched that.

Then theres alot of 3rd parties that don't make it to PC.

This is coming from a get everything gamer. If I can get a game on PC I will because it runs smoother and I like Mouse/Keyboard more than controller for almost everything. Not to mention strategy games are non existent on consoles. But thats that, there would be loads of games I would have missed, from Valkyria chronicles, heck you all mention bloodbourne and that but that series started out on Ps3 as Demons souls. Dark souls only exists because of demons souls so does bloodbourne.

I mean jeez, argubly the best superhero game i've played is infamous 2, and now those devs are making a spiderman game...

Osmosis Jones

They actually just want you to phone your friends to chat.

OwaynOTT

Tom Mann Centuria wrote: »

Is it Bluetooth? Only guessing that it Bluetooths your phone to the switch?

So via loudspeaker on the phone? Or do i wrap the phone to my head with elastic bands?

Tom Mann Centuria

OwaynOTT wrote: »

Maybe I'm stupid but how do you use the phone for voice chat while your holding a joycon or pro controller?
Never ever text and switch.

Is it Bluetooth? Only guessing that it Bluetooths your phone to the switch?

OwaynOTT

Maybe I'm stupid but how do you use the phone for voice chat while your holding a joycon or pro controller?
Never ever text and switch.

Retr0gamer

Venom wrote: »

Nintendo have been in the hardware business long enough now to have sorted this sort of thing out as if a software company like Microsoft can manage it for there consoles, why not them?

Because Microsoft are a massive multinational and can afford it and have a business big enough where the cost outweighs the benefit. Same with Sony who don't just do videogames. For Nintendo whose sole business is videogames it makes absolutely no financial sense to do so. EA and Ubisoft are the same, as are other videogame publishers.

People thinking this is a result of moronic so called journalists running their mouths off thinking that they have the answers for everything. However business is never that simple and if they did some actual journalism they would understand this. It's not a simple case of Nintendo withholding stock. If they don't have guaranteed sales they have to do so or end up paying through the teeth for rental space on unsold stock.

MilesMorales1

Venom wrote: »

Nintendo have been in the hardware business long enough now to have sorted this sort of thing out as if a software company like Microsoft can manage it for there consoles, why not them?

Please understand.

Venom

Retr0gamer wrote: »

It's not as simple as Nintendo keeping stock low on purpose. It's due to Nintendo not owning any warehousing network. The low initial stock figures are a result of that unfortunately.

Nintendo have been in the hardware business long enough now to have sorted this sort of thing out as if a software company like Microsoft can manage it for there consoles, why not them?

Retr0gamer

Venom wrote: »

Talk online is that stock is going to be low across the board. Nintendo are also bastards for keeping supply low to drive demand and hype. The recent NES classic is a prime example of this.

It's not as simple as Nintendo keeping stock low on purpose. It's due to Nintendo not owning any warehousing network. The low initial stock figures are a result of that unfortunately.

Star Lord

FAILSAFE 00 wrote: »

Coming in at a price point above a households primary console is not going to help with generating decent sales.

It will be primary console for plenty of people. I've a Wii U, 3DS and a PC at the minute, (and some older consoles) and honestly, outside of Bloodbourne, see no attraction to the PS4 or Xbox One...

sligeach wrote: »

Very true plus they wouldn't wait for the X2 chip which would have been at that stage I think....
...and their voicechat will now be through an app on our smart phones so as to kind of like pass the can.

I think the X2 would have had a higher power draw, which would require more powerful cooling and drain battery more, so it's a balancing act, with a custom X chip.

I thought the same as you on the voice chat through the smart phone, until I thought about when you take it on the go, the console will probably tether through your phone anyway for such things, so perhaps it works that way for a reason? Still, seems like an odd choice, but we'll find out soon enough how it functions.

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

There were a few things Nintendo said they'd have information on at a later date, as if they didn't realise how soon they announced the release.

I think they may be deliberately holding some things back, to use them to sustain interest in the console until release date, and possibly increase hype over time till then. At least, I hope so!

Venom

Sarn wrote: »

Based on limited stock rumours, anyone else thinking that they are going to keep supply tight to stimulate demand? Nothing like making it difficult to get something to increase desirability. Then, in theory, by Christmas the market will be primed.

Haven't heard anything from GameStop. I wonder if the follow up calls looking for a bigger deposit are from stores that have exceeded or are close to their day one allocation?

Talk online is that stock is going to be low across the board. Nintendo are also bastards for keeping supply low to drive demand and hype. The recent NES classic is a prime example of this.

Sarn

Based on limited stock rumours, anyone else thinking that they are going to keep supply tight to stimulate demand? Nothing like making it difficult to get something to increase desirability. Then, in theory, by Christmas the market will be primed.

Haven't heard anything from GameStop. I wonder if the follow up calls looking for a bigger deposit are from stores that have exceeded or are close to their day one allocation?

Nollog

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

It's a fancy HDMI cable :P

Really though I think that's one of the less egregious price points just based on the fact that I can't imagine too many people will want a second dock.

EDIT: Also does it not bother anyone that they're selling it either in black or with one red and one blue joycon? Why not a full red or blue set

It's so they can sell ocd folk the joycon colour set where they do the opposite colours. You'd have a blue and red set after spending the extra money.

As for 12switch, if it had online I'd say it's be perfect as a welcome gift to online subscribers in winter. But I don't think it does so shrug.

druss

super_furry wrote: »

It is a few weeks prior to launch right now. Nintendo explicitly said yesterday that it wouldn't be and that it's £39.99. It's a really daft decision and no-one with any sense is going to pay that for a tech demo.

I'd be thinking that this will be a game discounted at an early date, either via the Account system or via eShop sales.

As a pack-in, it'd be grand to show off the capabilities. But on first sight, I certainly don't see it as a full price or even half price purchase.

Unlike Mr Jaguar, I can't see any chance of a full game pack-in, at this stage. There might be some even lighter tech demo shoved onto the eshop?

I'm still planning on buying the Switch on day 1, with Zelda and with a pro-Controller. Maybe one or two indies as well, depending on how things fall.

Osmosis Jones

There were a few things Nintendo said they'd have information on at a later date, as if they didn't realise how soon they announced the release.

super_furry

Atari Jaguar wrote: »

Like I said above, a few weeks prior to launch we'll get word of game bundles. There's no way there won't be something in the box, Nintendo aren't stupid.

It is a few weeks prior to launch right now. Nintendo explicitly said yesterday that it wouldn't be and that it's £39.99. It's a really daft decision and no-one with any sense is going to pay that for a tech demo.

mdwexford

orubiru wrote: »

Yeah.

I think comparing the price or the specs (or both) to already existing consoles is pretty dumb but the reality is that this is the market Nintendo is trying to sell to.

Imagine you are marketing high end bicycles and every 2nd person you talk to complains because motorbikes can go faster and they can get a second hand one for half the price. Kinda feels like that's what we're seeing here.

I think that analogy is pretty dumb.

Danonino.

For people who travel for work, or college etc the switch is filling a very unique void imo. It's an updated Wii U that doesn't need to be within 10 feet of the console and is self contained and really well designed.

We'll see.

I think they are on to a winner. The only doubt I have is if Nintendo will push hard and long enough to make sure it's essential or that they confuse the message or try compete against the home consoles which it can't, and shouldn't.

EDIT: or worse, release a new handheld and render it pointless in a way.

MilesMorales1

I don't think it has to catch on, Nintendo Land didn't catch on like wii sports did. But a little wee tech demo is nice to have without having to pay for it.

Venom

Atari Jaguar wrote: »

Aye yeah I thought so. Christ lads it's not necessary to print up new boxes just to throw in 1-2 switch, probably do like with Wii Sports just a cardboard sleeve or a digital download code.

You underestimate the power of free. It looks like a bit of a laugh for a half hour with your missus or housemates or whatever, hardly a game you'd sit and play for hours but still if they throw it in for nothing it's something.

Like you hardly expect Zelda to be thrown in, so this is something from them to say here look, have a free game, have a laugh. Yeah?

Obviously you'd still pick up your Zelda or whatever the same day but I can see it being thrown in for a half hour of play when you get home tbh even if that's all you play it for.

They had zero reason not to mention 1-2 switch would be free with the console at launch if it is indeed the case. Maybe I'm wrong here, but I'v personally never seen a game come free with a console that didn't have it plastered all over the box.

Venom

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

As soon as he said you play without looking at a screen I started screaming inside

Yeah it lacks the whole play with a group/family vibe thing. Also, needing to be able to hear an audio que since your not looking at the screen doesn't seem to fit with the party atmosphere there aiming for!

Atari Jaguar

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

That's exactly the point, I suspect it will be a packin, they'd be crazy not to do it, like Nintendoland, show off the USP of the new format, create a buzz.

Aye yeah I thought so. Christ lads it's not necessary to print up new boxes just to throw in 1-2 switch, probably do like with Wii Sports just a cardboard sleeve or a digital download code.

Venom wrote: »

Even if it came free with the console its a damm weird game I just don't see catching on and definite not the next Wii sports.

You underestimate the power of free. It looks like a bit of a laugh for a half hour with your missus or housemates or whatever, hardly a game you'd sit and play for hours but still if they throw it in for nothing it's something.

Like you hardly expect Zelda to be thrown in, so this is something from them to say here look, have a free game, have a laugh. Yeah?

Obviously you'd still pick up your Zelda or whatever the same day but I can see it being thrown in for a half hour of play when you get home tbh even if that's all you play it for.

Osmosis Jones

Venom wrote: »

Even if it came free with the console its a damm weird game I just don't see catching on and definite not the next Wii sports.

As soon as he said you play without looking at a screen I started screaming inside

Venom

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

1-2 Switch will sell about 40 copies if it's not bundled with the console.

Even if it came free with the console its a damm weird game I just don't see catching on and definite not the next Wii sports.

CiDeRmAn

Atari Jaguar wrote: »

Correct me if I'm wrong but Nintendo land was available for purchase day one at full retail - no?

That's exactly the point, I suspect it will be a packin, they'd be crazy not to do it, like Nintendoland, show off the USP of the new format, create a buzz.

Atari Jaguar

MilesMorales1 wrote: »

The boxes are already printed though, sure doesn't look like there's anything in the box. Maybe something digital or a free download.

Yeah the vanilla boxes. Sure Sony had boxes printed with just PS4's and then they offered a game with it. Printing a couple of boxes and throwing a game in isn't a big deal.

Also there's the option that GameStop often take it upon themselves to offer some games with the system.

MilesMorales1

Atari Jaguar wrote: »

Like I said above, a few weeks prior to launch we'll get word of game bundles. There's no way there won't be something in the box, Nintendo aren't stupid.

The boxes are already printed though, sure doesn't look like there's anything in the box. Maybe something digital or a free download.

Atari Jaguar

Correct me if I'm wrong but Nintendo land was available for purchase day one at full retail - no?

Osmosis Jones

1-2 Switch will sell about 40 copies if it's not bundled with the console.

Atari Jaguar

MilesMorales1 wrote: »

1-2 switch should be free though. The vita had a very similar game (in concept) that came installed on every system, full retail for that is just mental. Maybe it'll go down before launch.

Like I said above, a few weeks prior to launch we'll get word of game bundles. There's no way there won't be something in the box, Nintendo aren't stupid.