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Nintendo Switch (Nintendo's next console)

Tipsy McSwagger

http://kotaku.com/nintendos-next-console-is-code-named-the-nintendo-nx-1691867268

"As proof that Nintendo maintains strong enthusiasm for the dedicated game system business", Iwata adds, "let me confirm that Nintendo is currently developing a dedicated game platform with a brand new concept under the development codename 'NX'."

And...that's it. Iwata says Nintendo will share more information about the new hardware "next year".

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Corholio

I think it's a bit unfair to say any non-member is being negative for the sake of it, because Nintendo do have a few problems with this certainly, it's those who immediately shout 'doom' after a day that are a bit OTT. The console price is a bit high although I don't think it's their biggest problem at all, €250 would have been the very least it could have been especially when £250 has been the rumoured price for so long, and it's only slightly above that. The accessory price though are a different problem, they do seem quite high. The Joy-Cons do seem quite expensive, they really need to be a very decent bit of kit to justify that and although early reviews are pretty glowing of them, they really need a substantial amount of use in games to be worth forking that out for another pair. The lack of a pack in game hasn't helped either, first time since the Gamecube I think.

It's not been the ideal launch, a stronger launch lineup would have helped substantially. I think the first year will be a much better gauge though as launches always have reasonably big sales regardless, it's the staggered sales that Nintendo will need and the games unannounced to go with it. The PS3 and Xbox One had awful launches but found their footing after a while. I think the games that Nintendo haven't announced will be very important to the first 12 months of the console. The online situation needs clarification too because a lot of the info has come from the US side of things and there's always differences between territories in that.

A lot of the reviews of the actual hardware and software ware have been very positive, a lot saying it's the most high tech feeling console that Nintendo have had. It's the price points and future software question marks that will dog Nintendo for a while until it becomes more clearer.

Valord

I'm not a regular poster but I have been following the thread and I am somewhat concerned about this lately. I've been a Nintendo fan since the days of the SNES and was the only kid I knew who stuck with Gamecube for the entire generation instead of jumping to the PS2 and Xbox like everyone else I knew. I didn't get a non-Nintendo console until a few year into the PS3's life cycle. I have a Wii U and I really like the Wii U, I get a lot more use out of it than my PS4, and it's basically the only thing I know of with decent local multiplayer games from its generation.

That said, the Wii U functioned very much as a supplementary console for my PC, which is where I get most of my games. I honestly don't think "only 1 great game at launch" (the PS4 and XBO had none) or "expensive controllers" are going to really make much of a difference at all. My big fear with the Switch is that if the specs are, again, miles behind the competition, it will be doomed to "supplementary" status. That's fine for me, personally, because I would just buy all my cross-platform games on PC anyway (I want the Nintendo console for Nintendo's consistently high-quality exclusives), but I think it's a huge chink in the armour for the console to have mainstream success like its competitors.

A lot of houses are going to have just one console, whether due to lack of money or lack of interest, and I don't think many will be willing to ditch all of the big AAA blockbuster games (varying in quality as they may be) to get what would probably amount to 5-6 really good Nintendo games.We can all talk about how the Nintendo fans are the ones who need to be impressed but Nintendo fans couldn't carry the Wii U, despite the fact that it had some really excellent games. It needs to break into a more mainstream audience.

It needs to be something that regular teenagers and young adults are talking about and that they can play with each other on. Things like Smash Bros 4 have very dedicated online followings, but right now if you take the average person who plays games on a console or PC, and if they've even heard of the Wii U, the chances are high they've never touched one. I don't even know a single other person who owns one or was ever interested in buying one, despite having lots of gaming friends. They'll happily play it in multiplayer and will enjoy it, but it wouldn't cross their minds to ever actually buy one.

And for most of those people, I can't see them considering a Switch any more if it's going to lack a strong online multiplayer and the usual big games (things like Assassin's Creed, Call of Duty, Battlefield, Dragon Age, Fallout, Skyrim, MGS etc). The only way I can see it being highly successful is if it's marketed as a high-powered portable console, rather than a low-powered home console. Then it could have some forgiveness and a chance, but to do that, the price will have to drop, because there's an expectation of portable consoles being cheaper than home consoles, and right now it's priced about the same as the home consoles.

johnpatrick81

I love my Wii U, more than most consoles I ever owned. This though, hasn't won me over in the slightest.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-01-13-switch-clicks-in-the-hands-but-on-paper-its-in-trouble

Brilliantly wrote article. All the positives at the start, almost mouth watering. Then the reality hits home, and the horrible mess Nintendo seem to be making of it.

The comments are very fair too, and mostly negative. It's a shocking launch.

MilesMorales1

GameCube games for the ambassador programme in 6 months?

CiDeRmAn

We could be seeing the same pricing decision that we saw with the 3DS, when there was a pricing change the market responded positively.
But, why speculate when it isn't even out yet.

The lack of launch games is troubling but then the PS4 and XB1 had nothing to compare with LoZ and so we may be concernes over nothing.
That there are relatively few WiiU consoles out there probably means that that games release on a cheaper format is going to have little impact on the Switch games sales.

[Deleted User]

Interview with Reggie - http://gonintendo.com/stories/271884-reggie-stay-tuned-for-info-on-possible-switch-vc-discounts-tr

He says "stay tuned" for info on possible VC discounts/transfers for the VC games you already own.

Osmosis Jones

I'm not a regular, I'm posting because Nintendo just revealed a new console and that's big news in the gaming world. I didn't like the Wii U and had hoped this would pull me back into the Nintendo system, it hasn't and I've expressed my concerns and disappointments in a relevant forum.

I guess because I don't like it and I'm not always posting here I should just keep my mouth shut though?

sligeach

MilesMorales1 wrote: »

Price of the joy cons is too high. I'm sure the wii motes weren't that expensive st launch, around £20/25 as I recall.

Nintendo are still charging £40 for a Wii remote. Smyths charge €45.

http://store.nintendo.co.uk/wii-u-accessories/wii-remote-plus-bowser/11195565.html

http://www.smythstoys.com/ie/en-ie/video-games-tablets/c-743/nintendo-wii-wii-u/p-3995/wii-u-remote-plus-white-wii-u/

I think the original Wii remote was around the same price. But these new accessories are even more expensive.

MilesMorales1

Price of the joy cons is too high. I'm sure the wii motes weren't that expensive at launch, around £20/25 as I recall.

druss

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Bugger
Seems confirmed that the WiiU pro controller won't work with the Switch
https://mic.com/articles/165115/nintendo-switch-controller-options-compatibility-what-controllers-support-the-switch#.KMjY23GMd
I was hoping to save some money, being able to use my current controller with the new machine, especially with two player titles, dammit!

I'd been hoping the same, especially as the price for the Switch Pro Controller is quite high.

Tom Mann Centuria

MilesMorales1 wrote: »

It's almost as if quite a few of these people wouldn't have bought the Switch no matter how that presentation went or the launch line up. Odd that.

Unless it was as powerful as the Sunway TaihuLight supercomputer, had 50 games ready to go, cost 150 euro with 5 free games and a foot rub. They MIGHT consider the possibility of maybe buying one then.

But that's OK, it's not for everyone.

MilesMorales1

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Is not remarkable the amount of non-forum regulars who seem to be posting with the only message that this isn't the console for them?

As for games making the journey from WiiU to Switch, I don't see why not, many of those titles were also on PC and other formats, so porting shouldn't be a problem really, especially if they are written to middleware, like Unity or Unreal.
We've seen discounts available to owners of games on one Nintendo format when it's released for another, no reason to think this won't persist.

It's almost as if quite a few of these people wouldn't have bought the Switch no matter how that presentation went or the launch line up. Odd that.

Roark

ThisRegard wrote: »

And that's a problem for Nintendo

Not really. Nintendo still have a really strong fanbase. The Switch can be a success if they don't make a balls of it like they did with the Wii U. Non regulars coming in here and trying to stir is the same thing that happens in the club threads over at the soccer forum. Trolls be trollin.

ThisRegard

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Is not remarkable the amount of non-forum regulars who seem to be posting with the only message that this isn't the console for them?

And that's a problem for Nintendo

Digital Solitude

McLoughlin wrote: »

March 3rd my birthday family members, friends and love ones have been informed and will be reminded regularly that game stop vouchers are most welcomed and should be delivered by Thursday 2nd.

Its the first time since the Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles NES package in 1990 to be out on March 3rd. Which was my first Nintendo.

I've never been a spec guided person to me its the games that matter and launch isn't that exciting but Zelda will keep me going till Mario Kart then Splatoon 2 then Super Mario Odyssey and what ever else may arise If I can get at least 6 killer games in the first year I'll be happy.

What more specs do we want? Screen size and resolution is out there, we have the computational power, it can be used to guess we'll have 30fps and we know the battery life.

Literally only the battery life was released yesterday, all the rest has been available for months, would have been wasted delving into specs yesterday. Anyone caring about anything more than battery life probably wouldn't have bought it regardless of what Ninty did.

CiDeRmAn

Bugger
Seems confirmed that the WiiU pro controller won't work with the Switch
https://mic.com/articles/165115/nintendo-switch-controller-options-compatibility-what-controllers-support-the-switch#.KMjY23GMd
I was hoping to save some money, being able to use my current controller with the new machine, especially with two player titles, dammit!

McLoughlin

March 3rd my birthday family members, friends and love ones have been informed and will be reminded regularly that game stop vouchers are most welcomed and should be delivered by Thursday 2nd.

Its the first time since the Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles NES package in 1990 to be out on March 3rd. Which was my first Nintendo.

I've never been a spec guided person to me its the games that matter and launch isn't that exciting but Zelda will keep me going till Mario Kart then Splatoon 2 then Super Mario Odyssey and what ever else may arise If I can get at least 6 killer games in the first year I'll be happy.

Ol' Donie

Frankly, I can't wait to play Mario Kart 8 from scratch.

This yoke is gonna be amazing.

Need a project plan.

Step 1: Book March 3rd off work.

CiDeRmAn

Is not remarkable the amount of non-forum regulars who seem to be posting with the only message that this isn't the console for them?

As for games making the journey from WiiU to Switch, I don't see why not, many of those titles were also on PC and other formats, so porting shouldn't be a problem really, especially if they are written to middleware, like Unity or Unreal.
We've seen discounts available to owners of games on one Nintendo format when it's released for another, no reason to think this won't persist.

MilesMorales1

youcancallmeal wrote: »

So how realistic is it to expect to be able to buy wii u titles from some sort of digital store for the switch?

Not very likely. Considering they're porting Mario kart and some other later in the year (supposedly)

youcancallmeal

MilesMorales1 wrote: »

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1333927

Yes. The Wii U has a different type of CPU and GPU then the Switch, games will have to be ported to the Switch to work.

So how realistic is it to expect to be able to buy wii u titles from some sort of digital store for the switch?

MilesMorales1

Gizmo55 wrote: »

Is that confirmed? If so, where? Thanks.

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1333927

Yes. The Wii U has a different type of CPU and GPU then the Switch, games will have to be ported to the Switch to work.

Osmosis Jones

Have to say I'm really not feeling this, the whole conference felt very similar to the Wii U all over again for me.

It really seems like the Switch shouldn't be releasing yet, but Zelda is forcing their hand a bit. Wii U owners have been waiting for this Zelda for so long now, and of course Nintendo want to launch the Switch with BotW, but it feels like they're rushing the console out in order to release it with BotW because they can't withhold it from the Wii U any longer.

They've announced a load of third party partnerships but I get the impression not too many devs are all that confident in the Switch, they had almost nothing to announce at the conference, events likes of Square were fairly quiet.

The price is about what I'd expect, but until they announce a bundle it looks like you'll be paying about 420 quid for the system with one game and a pro controller(which I am shocked they haven't included with the system).

I'll probably see what the state of this is at Christmas, it's not an attractive prospect for me right now at all. Zelda looks fantastic but it's not enough to keep me going until Odyssey, which also looks great bar the weird Sonic 06 city level.

Gizmo55

On the Switch Facebook page, Fast RMX is down for release in March. Whether that's accurate or not I've no idea. If it's anywhere near as good as Fast Racing Neo I'd be delighted, that game is amazing.

http://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/fast-rmx-switch

Gizmo55

MilesMorales1 wrote: »

It's not happening.

Is that confirmed? If so, where? Thanks.

MilesMorales1

Gizmo55 wrote: »

I'm trying not to watch too much Zelda gameplay but it really does look amazing. Is there any word yet on backwards compatibility for Wii U digital games?

It's not happening.

Gizmo55

I'm trying not to watch too much Zelda gameplay but it really does look amazing. Is there any word yet on backwards compatibility for Wii U digital games?

sligeach

Another infuriating interview with Reggie Fils Aime in a number of regards.

NINTENDO’S BOSS PROMISES THE SWITCH WON’T HAVE THE NES CLASSIC’S SUPPLY ISSUES

https://www.wired.com/2017/01/reggie-fils-aime-nintendo-interview/

sligeach

Some of this Japanese live stream on now has been great. MK8 Deluxe Battle Mode looks like a tonne of fun. Still, there's an awful lot of talking in all segments, too much. Super Mario Odyssey is on at the minute. Or should I say more talking? Hopefully they show new footage.

Here's the link for the few of you who are awake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4YrHReUh50

sligeach

https://twitter.com/DWBakes/status/820007317102088192