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Farmer Dan

Morning all,

Has anyone received payment for this scheme yet or when are the proposing to pay. Assuming that you've returned all your samples and recorded all the data?

Thanks

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Hurling Hereford

Sheep breeder wrote: »

The chances are you are going to be inspected as they are out inspecting at the moment and the reason for no payment

Friend was told today that second round of 2016 BDGP payments are issuing over the weekend

Sheep breeder

kollegeknight wrote: »

They are seriously giving me the run around.

I was told we would receive 2016 money before the 2015 money because 2015 payments were he'd up when dad died.

Anytime I call, they just say everything is up to date and we should be paid in the next run.

The chances are you are going to be inspected as they are out inspecting at the moment and the reason for no payment

Hurling Hereford

blue5000 wrote: »

Full day, approx 11am to 4pm for us anyway, didn't hear of any evening courses.

Courses were only meant to last for 4 hours. I was bulling when my took 4 and a half hours!

croot

Hurling Hereford wrote: »

No it took the man 30 days to take his first BVD sample & to send it to a lab. I think

Well he should be able to make a good case so.

Sickness or something like that could easily cause an older person to be 10 days late.;)

blue5000

Sami23 wrote: »

Quick question for everyone that has the BDGP Training Course completed and I think everyone should have it done at this stage.
What times did your course take place, was it morning's, evening's, or weekends ?

Full day, approx 11am to 4pm for us anyway, didn't hear of any evening courses.

Sami23

Quick question for everyone that has the BDGP Training Course completed and I think everyone should have it done at this stage.
What times did your course take place, was it morning's, evening's, or weekends ?

kollegeknight

whelan2 wrote: »

You should have been paid before christmas, we got it and we hadnt filled in the surveys as calves were not 5 months yet

They are seriously giving me the run around.

I was told we would receive 2016 money before the 2015 money because 2015 payments were he'd up when dad died.

Anytime I call, they just say everything is up to date and we should be paid in the next run.

whelan2

kollegeknight wrote: »

Has anyone been paid yet?

We have received noting for any of the scheme. I'm burnt out calling them about it

You should have been paid before christmas, we got it and we hadnt filled in the surveys as calves were not 5 months yet

kollegeknight

Has anyone been paid yet?

We have received noting for any of the scheme. I'm burnt out calling them about it

tanko

RD10 wrote: »

how do you do this?

RD10

tanko wrote: »

Yeah, there is but you need to do it before Sunday i think.

how do you do this?

Hurling Hereford

croot wrote: »

Did it take him 30 days to do the retest on a PI?

No it took the man 30 days to take his first BVD sample & to send it to a lab. I think

jfh

You can change the selection before Sunday, I have one cow to genotype that 17! I'm going to swap her over for a weanling heifer, more beneficial

Bellview

pure breed wrote:

Stupid question maybe but Is there an option to select animals you like to genotype yourself?

Agree option is there but how did they manage to select 9 bulls and one heifer...no doubt someone will blame the computer and not the person that selected the criteria
I have made changes but I thought these guys were a professional set up not amateur.

tanko

pure breed wrote: »

Stupid question maybe but Is there an option to select animals you like to genotype yourself?

Yeah, there is but you need to do it before Sunday i think.

pure breed

Bellview wrote:

Of the 10 animals selected for genotying 9 were bulls event hough I have 20 females that are available for selection

Stupid question maybe but Is there an option to select animals you like to genotype yourself?

Bellview

bogman_bass wrote:

What do you mean 90% bulls selected?

Of the 10 animals selected for genotying 9 were bulls event hough I have 20 females that are available for selection

croot

Happy enough here with the ones selected for tagging. All female and some of the older cows I was curious about are on the list as well as young heifers

croot

Hurling Hereford wrote: »

Have any of ye come across this since BDGP money started to be sent to farmers?

The Mrs. was only in the door from work this evening, when an elderly neighbour arrived. He had phoned the dept about last years BDGP payment only to be told that because he had a BVD calf in 2015 he might not get paid his money.

Was told by a fella in Portlaois that he should have tested this calf 20 days after its birth & have had its sample in a lab for testing. Your man in the dept told the neighbour it took him 30 days to do this with his pi positive calf and that he would have to put a very good case in writing if he wanted to receive a "single cent" of the suckler payment.

Have any of ye encountered the same problem & what did ye do about it?

Did it take him 30 days to do the retest on a PI?

bogman_bass

Bellview wrote: »

I also just checked mine and 90 per cent bulls selected. Not sure wtf icbf are at as they are cow families that breed well but stars are low and they are ignoring these..I thought this was a maternal program and genotying was to help fix the reliability of the stars... I lose more faith in this every day as my view is that icbf are clueless...especially selecting all bulls

What do you mean 90% bulls selected?

tanko

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Got that aswell yesterday and deferred it until April. Don't think there was any bull calves on the list I got though.

I have to tag bullocks that were born last year as i've only a few cows left that haven't been done. Don't want to defer ordering the tags, just want to get it done asap. Should have plenty of heifers born this year for tagging next year hopefully.

Limestone Cowboy

tanko wrote: »

Got the letter about tagging animals for genotyping this year. The last of the cows and heifers to be done, half of animals for tagging are last years bull calves.
The tags are going to be sent out in Feb and March.
There's an option to defer selection of animals for tagging and printing of tags until April 02nd.

Got that aswell yesterday and deferred it until April. Don't think there was any bull calves on the list I got though.

Bellview

I also just checked mine and 90 per cent bulls selected. Not sure wtf icbf are at as they are cow families that breed well but stars are low and they are ignoring these..I thought this was a maternal program and genotying was to help fix the reliability of the stars... I lose more faith in this every day as my view is that icbf are clueless...especially selecting all bulls

tanko

Got the letter about tagging animals for genotyping this year. The last of the cows and heifers to be done, half of animals for tagging are last years bull calves.
The tags are going to be sent out in Feb and March.
There's an option to defer selection of animals for tagging and printing of tags until April 02nd.

grassroot1

I didnt do the training element of the scheme and my payment has been witheld (lost). Spoke to teagasc and they tell me 600 farmers have failed to meet this requirement. It now appears that the department may run courses again to allow this requirement to be filled. There will of course be penalties if you have to go this route.
I was under the impression that when the IFA agreed to this scheme we would only lose the money related to which every requirement they were short, clearly this is not the case.

Hurling Hereford

Have any of ye come across this since BDGP money started to be sent to farmers?

The Mrs. was only in the door from work this evening, when an elderly neighbour arrived. He had phoned the dept about last years BDGP payment only to be told that because he had a BVD calf in 2015 he might not get paid his money.

Was told by a fella in Portlaois that he should have tested this calf 20 days after its birth & have had its sample in a lab for testing. Your man in the dept told the neighbour it took him 30 days to do this with his pi positive calf and that he would have to put a very good case in writing if he wanted to receive a "single cent" of the suckler payment.

Have any of ye encountered the same problem & what did ye do about it?

The man in red and black

Future Farmer wrote: »

Wouldn't want to be putting on my eggs in one basket on a Charolais bull.

Are you pedigree?

No, my brother has a few pedigree CH heifers he's just gotten into but the fathers are all commercial. Would be better off with a different breed for replacements but he likes the look of white/grey animals

They say the variation within a breed is as marked as across the breeds so fingers crossed in 2019 we have some CH heifers calving with more milk than usual!

Hurling Hereford

Folks, an elderly neighbour of mine paid me a visit today, with a letter from the department. The letter stated that TWO advisors had billed the department for completing his carbon navigator.

I know who actually did that C.N. for him because the same guy did mine. The only other 'advisor' that would have known his herd number, etc is a retired planner who used work for an organisation providing research, advisory and training services to agriculture industry.

I hope this greedy 'advisor' does not get paid his €160 & is 'struck off' by the department, the chancer.

Future Farmer

The man in red and black wrote: »

Looking at our cull list now the new eurostars are finally fully updated. Newer generations not adding up on the stars...herd average replacement rating will drop quite a bit if we cull the older girls with the 115-135e ratings. Have 12 in calf to Tombapik for CH replacements, please God all goes well and at least half are female!

Wouldn't want to be putting on my eggs in one basket on a Charolais bull.

Are you pedigree?

patsy_mccabe

TITANIUM. wrote: »

Do it all on the phone. Makes life allot easier

I like to fill in the form first and then input it all online. I do this so that I always have the same values (milk an docility) put in for the cows from year to year. It will come up the same then from year to year on their system. Probably doesn't really matter but at least I will be consistent.