kevinandrew wrote: » That's what 'smart' normally does but do the other IAG carriers have any spares in summer? Probably not.
Tenger wrote: » Indeed. IAG need to acquire a Southern Hemisphere airline to develop season synergy in terms of aircraft swops?
L1011 wrote: » Most countries have ownership rules that make that improbable. EU single market is the only way the three big EU groups could form.
Locker10a wrote: » Will the IAG carriers lend one another capacity this summer a la BA opering extra flights for EI last year ?
kevinandrew wrote: » Guess that depends on whether or not Aer Lingus has scheduled any additional flights for peak summer that can't be covered by their own metal. The BA Cityflyer service last summer was in addition to the normal Aer Lingus schedule, it appeared successful and popular and it also enabled Cityflyer to generate revenue when the aircraft would normally be parked up during the LCY weekend closure so there's plenty of positives. However this summer Aer Lingus may not require Cityflyer to provide additional capacity or Cityflyer, with its own weekend flying programme from STN, may not be able to provide the extra lift.
Jamie2k9 wrote: » kevinandrew wrote: » Guess that depends on whether or not Aer Lingus has scheduled any additional flights for peak summer that can't be covered by their own metal. The BA Cityflyer service last summer was in addition to the normal Aer Lingus schedule, it appeared successful and popular and it also enabled Cityflyer to generate revenue when the aircraft would normally be parked up during the LCY weekend closure so there's plenty of positives. However this summer Aer Lingus may not require Cityflyer to provide additional capacity or Cityflyer, with its own weekend flying programme from STN, may not be able to provide the extra lift. Looks like they will have their own extra capacity however I suspect bookings over the next few weeks will determine if it returns/needed.
kevinandrew wrote: » Aer Lingus CEO Stephen Kavanagh was speaking at an event yesterday and gave an insight into some of the airlines future fleet plans. At present he see's no business case for either the A350 or A330neo in the fleet, citing current fuel prices and ownership costs. It appears Aer Lingus will stick with the A333 as their wide body of choice well into the next decade. ............
Tenger wrote: » kevinandrew wrote: » Aer Lingus CEO Stephen Kavanagh was speaking at an event yesterday and gave an insight into some of the airlines future fleet plans. At present he see's no business case for either the A350 or A330neo in the fleet, citing current fuel prices and ownership costs. It appears Aer Lingus will stick with the A333 as their wide body of choice well into the next decade. ............ Boo Hiss!!! Was at least hoping for something more interesting than "more of the same" I know the A333 is a great workhorse but at least the 'A339neo' would have been a new model at least! Can I ask what the event was? Didnt hear about any Aer Lingus anouncements happening?
kevinandrew wrote: » Aer Lingus CEO Stephen Kavanagh was speaking at an event yesterday and gave an insight into some of the airlines future fleet plans. At present he see's no business case for either the A350 or A330neo in the fleet, citing current fuel prices and ownership costs. It appears Aer Lingus will stick with the A333 as their wide body of choice well into the next decade. Aer Lingus is expecting to finalise a deal for the A321neoLR in the coming weeks, they will use the aircraft on both medium and short haul routes to ensure high utilisation of the aircraft within the fleet. The airline is also expecting to take delivery of four A333s in the next 18-24 months, we already know of two due later this year so it's safe assume a further two will be delivered next year. It is also considering using the A330 on the busy Dublin to Heathrow route to feed IAG Cargo, this is already in action on Heathrow to Madrid with Iberia flying A330/A340s and British Airways using 767/777s between the cities.
Locker10a wrote: » Very interesting about using the 321neoLR being used short haul! I don't see the benefit to that! If like the 757s, the 321neoLR will be kitted out with full business class then the seating capacity would be below the current 321s and maybe even the 320s! Unless of course he means they will have a split order with some being transatlantic configuration and some being Europes configuration
L1011 wrote: » I presume they mean it'll operate euro legs between TATL ones which the 757s don't.
Van.Bosch wrote: » Locker10a wrote: » Very interesting about using the 321neoLR being used short haul! I don't see the benefit to that! If like the 757s, the 321neoLR will be kitted out with full business class then the seating capacity would be below the current 321s and maybe even the 320s! Unless of course he means they will have a split order with some being transatlantic configuration and some being Europes configuration Which for an airline the size of EI wouldn't make sense, sure a regular A321neo would suffice.
kevinandrew wrote: » Maybe but [font=Open Sans, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Locker10a has just pointed out the issue with that, the TATL A321s should be fitted with both a business and economy cabin which would give them about 170 seats, fine for the transatlantic but not appropriate for the short haul operation. [/font] Why wouldn't it make sense? The A321neoLR and A321neo aren't drastically different but the LR variant is a more capable transatlantic aircraft, much closer to a true 757 replacement than the standard version. A fleet of A321neo's for short haul and LR's for transatlantic makes sense as part of a wider replacement programme, remember IAG already have a large number of A320neo family on order for all airlines within the group, there's even an A320neo mocked up in Aer Lingus colours on the Airbus website. The A321neo could have a significant place within the short haul fleet if the numbers work for Aer Lingus, Wizz Air believes its size and ability to fit in 240 seats gives them a huge advantage over Ryanair which will only be able to squeeze around 200 seats into their 737MAX aircraft on order. Now Aer Lingus wouldn't be able to fill 240 seats year round on short haul but the option to have a higher capacity aircraft and a lower cost per seat than Ryanair must be of interest to them.
john boye wrote: » Locker10a wrote: » Very interesting about using the 321neoLR being used short haul! I don't see the benefit to that! If like the 757s, the 321neoLR will be kitted out with full business class then the seating capacity would be below the current 321s and maybe even the 320s! Unless of course he means they will have a split order with some being transatlantic configuration and some being Europes configuration Wasn't there talk a while ago of EI offering biz class again on certain SH city routes in the future? I don't know how true it was but perhaps this is related to it if there was any substance in it?
HTCOne wrote: » 2 more A330s next year eh? Well they can't really go all A333 until the new runway is operational due MTOW issues to California can they? So some A332s will need to be kept. It will be nearly 12 months before we hear what they'll be doing but my early bet is DFW and more increases in frequency to Florida
Locker10a wrote: » Aren't two of them going to BCN to operate long haul flights from there ?
Jamie2k9 wrote: » New A333 are fine to do West Coast and start ops this summer. My early bet would be Canada
Locker10a wrote: » HTCOne wrote: » 2 more A330s next year eh? Well they can't really go all A333 until the new runway is operational due MTOW issues to California can they? So some A332s will need to be kept. It will be nearly 12 months before we hear what they'll be doing but my early bet is DFW and more increases in frequency to Florida Aren't two of them going to BCN to operate long haul flights from there ?
HTCOne wrote: » Locker10a wrote: » Aren't two of them going to BCN to operate long haul flights from there ? Forgot about that, although that's supposed to be starting later this year no? So next year's 2 will be unaffected? IAG have been hoovering up A332s for Iberia lately haven't they? Activated 14 options last year IIRC.
Van.Bosch wrote: » Air Canada have proved there is a market to Vancouver, so they may fancy that. Montreal, or the aged rumour of St. John's could also be options. Realistically how many more North American routes could they make a success of before going east or south (Africa) would be considered. I would say about 6 or 7. DFW / YVR / YUL / PHL / DEN / SEA / LAS
HTCOne wrote: » 2 more A330s next year eh? Well they can't really go all A333 until the new runway is operational due MTOW issues to California can they?
HTCOne wrote: » 2 more A330s next year eh? Well they can't really go all A333 until the new runway is operational due MTOW issues to California can they? So some A332s will need to be kept. ....
duskyjoe wrote: » pure waffle. New a330s no probs unless rwy defined as wet and low pressure.
HTCOne wrote: » A332s have been delayed on departure to SFO to offload cargo due runway length at DUB in summer 2016. So i'm assuming TOGA on new A333s has been increased significantly?
