jaymla627 wrote: » Its getting unbelivable militant what murphy and co are trying to drive down dairy farmers necks at these conferances, theirs absoloutely no tolerance anymore given to other (higher) cost dairy systems....
kowtow wrote: » If they saw my system they'd faint clean away.
freedominacup wrote: » You were looking for a lime dispenser a couple of days ago. Try getting a couple of bags of wood shavings. We changed over to them a week ago. Between the hardship hauling like around and the fact that the cubicles weren't staying clean enough something has to change. Very happy so far. Cubicles cleaned and bedded by the time the last cow leaves the house for milking. Simply pull off any dirt off the bed and pull back a bit of shavings. No rushing around with lime while they're being milked. Cows much cleaner also so milking time much faster. Like usage down by eighty percent at least. We only ever started using lime because of the unreliability and messing involved with getting sawdust. Unless we get some sort of disease issue I can't see us going back. Cost neutral also.
jaymla627 wrote: » Might be more apt to have a discussion re nitrates and what happens if irish derogagtion isnt renewed this coming summer..... But that dosent follow their party line of stocking the milking platform to the absoloute limit with cows all the while feeding the cows almost entirely on grass and clover too which apparently is the second coming of christ for dairy farmers and a pinch of meal but only if the wedge needs feeding.... Its getting unbelivable militant what murphy and co are trying to drive down dairy farmers necks at these conferances, theirs absoloutely no tolerance anymore given to other (higher) cost dairy systems....
freedominacup wrote: » Why is anyone having discussions in the context of milk quota at this stage?
yosemitesam1 wrote: » Was there anything about clover put up. Couldn't see how your mans figures would stack up at all unless saving in less than €60 a cow was going to lead to the greater than 30% rise in profit..
freedominacup wrote: » I'm a bit of a thorn in the side of our dg facilitator. Usually in the top three for solids percentages and on my own by a distance with kgs of solids per cow from pedigree holsteins. Stocked to the limit though and only getting worse.
kowtow wrote: » I love the idea of shavings. When you say "pull back" how much do you put down in each cubicle to start with? Do you mix with lime at all or just a lot less or occasionally? Presumably these are the same kind of shavings you'd buy in the creamery for bedding horses etc.? Would they cause any problem in slurry channels I wonder?
jaymla627 wrote: » Should be at 575 kgs ms delivered here on co-op report for 2016 of 1.45 ton of meal and 60% of herd 1st/2nd lactation, no tmr/maize just grass and good baled silage, sr will level of at 3.2/ha here.... once herd matures id fully expect to be hitting 600 kgs a cow year in year out, our just shy of 2000kgs ms/ha, to achieve this the grass rich/low cost way on minimial meal going in your talking about having to run nearly 50-60 more cows in my case, seems like certified maddness to me with grain cheap and looking that way for the foreseeable future how it would make sense to tag on more cows and all the associated expansion costs and extra land needed to carry these ladies how id be so much more finincial better off
Keepgrowing wrote: » https://twitter.com/aibrenn/status/819523972714921985https://twitter.com/aibrenn/status/819522186985738241https://twitter.com/aibrenn/status/819524864180678656
freedominacup wrote: » We should be on 500 off 1.1 tonnes. Hoping to push meal and yields this year. Delivering 1000kgs per ha from every ha farmed.
Keepgrowing wrote: » Hit 495 per cow with 990 per total farm ha on 780 kg nuts. Bloody Xbreds are shyte. That includes and dry ow silage bought on and land rearing heifers Youngstock would account for 38% of the lus on the farm
freedominacup wrote: » No silage bought here. Youngstock would be somewhere around 30% of lus here. Should be higher but buying stock most years so calves not really matching up to cow numbers. Edit; you're buying silage we're buying meal. Meal costing €70 here above your cost for concentrate. How much are you spending on buying silage?
thisyear wrote: » It seems poor form, was talking to a lad last night that was saying the contract covers LIC and its subsideries, so Eurogene is probably covered by it as well
Keepgrowing wrote: » €32/ cow for forage purchased Straw €11
freedominacup wrote: » Either you're getting it cheap or you're not buying much?????
bogman_bass wrote: » LIC straws sold by Eurogene yes but Dutch or American straws wouldn't be covered. Can't see how they could claim intellectual property for bulls they don't own. If I was still milking by view on it is any offspring from any breeding decvision carried out on MY farm is MY intellectual property and if you think you can tell me otherwise you can go and jump
thisyear wrote: » dont think Id be bothered with the risk! Was looking up the LIC EBIs for the spring, they are not at the races at all so dont understand what they think they are protecting!!
GrasstoMilk wrote: » Good few top ebi SRM bulls are out of LIC breeding. There breeding did jump forward the breeding in this country. No doubt about it. LHZ is one example. He's from one of the biggest crossbreds farms in this country
thisyear wrote: » No doubt going back they had an influence inlcuding on my herd! But just looking at the latest lists they are way off and thats been the trend over last few years. Hence I havent been using them that much. The Irish companies like Munster and Dovea have caught and past them... bit like the rugby
jaymla627 wrote: » Whats your basis of the above opionin, are you just going off the higher the ebi the better the bull and least not forget your talking about genomic sires in alot of cases, our are your higher ebi irish bred cows outpreforming your lic bred stock.....
Timmaay wrote: » I've got about 4km of electric fencing to be put in next week. Will set me back about 2k. One of them jobs I should have done 4 years ago!
whelan2 wrote: » Are you doing the work or getting a contractor in? Lad that does relief milking here is a fencing contractor which is very handy
Timmaay wrote: » Contractor all the way. Aside from it definitely not paying me to do it myself, I'm sick of all the crap farmers fencing around here the last few years.
