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Jan and Klodi's Party Bus - part II off topic discussion

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tomasrojo

Strictly speaking, most of the methane is emitted via belching.

Lusk_Doyle

tomasrojo wrote: »

Strictly speaking, most of the methane is emitted via belching.

Face farting backstards, then.

Chuchote

Wouldn't play, Miklos.

CramCycle

Chuchote wrote: »

Wouldn't play, Miklos.

Fixed

Chuchote

Damn! I've had We Did it Again, We Did it Again, We Did it Again as an earworm for the last three days, now I'm stuck with Tom Bonen, Tom Bonen.

Beasty

As I was wandering the streets in some foreign climes today I came across a salutory reminder of how not to lock your bike.....

Alek

Does reporting a Dublin Bus incident via their complaint form on the website make sense?

Pigeon Reaper

I've reported incidents and they're gotten back to me with positive results. It might take a while as they'll review CCTV.

P_1

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/teenage-boy-in-bicycle-theft-gang-bundled-into-van-and-has-leg-broken-by-vigilantes-35352371.html

In two minds over this. Morally it is wrong to do this to anybody but given the lack of power the Gardaí would have due to the courts I guess it could be seen as a deterrent.

CramCycle

Pigeon Reaper wrote: »

I've reported incidents and they're gotten back to me with positive results. It might take a while as they'll review CCTV.

Really? I found them very dismissive bar the automated e-mail, it was hard to get a response at all. The CCTV went missing, they had no interest in the footage I had. Overall, not a helpful bunch. Although I admit that is not all DB staff, but there is a certain feeling of circling the wagons from some of them when a complaint is made.

Alek

I'll see what happens over the next few days. Meanwhile my mate (a DB driver himself) contacted me saying he knows 2 managers of the driver in person, and they are both keen cyclists... <evil grin>

magicbastarder

P_1 wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/teenage-boy-in-bicycle-theft-gang-bundled-into-van-and-has-leg-broken-by-vigilantes-35352371.html

In two minds over this. Morally it is wrong to do this to anybody but given the lack of power the Gardaí would have due to the courts I guess it could be seen as a deterrent.

or else, take out 'a deterrent' and put in 'simple thuggery'.
possibly a turf war between rival gangs?

Chuchote

P_1 wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/teenage-boy-in-bicycle-theft-gang-bundled-into-van-and-has-leg-broken-by-vigilantes-35352371.html

In two minds over this. Morally it is wrong to do this to anybody but given the lack of power the Gardaí would have due to the courts I guess it could be seen as a deterrent.

I'm not in two minds at all. I fecking hate bike theft, but I would rather lose my precious bike to a thief than see the thief have his leg broken.

And by the way, bike theft in Crumlin/Kimmage/Drimnagh has not dropped at all since this happened.

Met a young lad last night who was wheeling two bikes, said he'd just bought one off DoneDeal. He said he bought a couple of bikes there, and sure, there's no way of knowing if it's stolen, you just have to cross your fingers. Not one of this world's geniuses.

Lumen

Chuchote wrote: »

I fecking hate bike theft, but I would rather lose my precious bike to a thief than see the thief have his leg broken.

I fecking hate vigilantism, but I would rather see the thief have his leg broken than lose my precious bike(s) to him.

Nice clean break mind, like Michael Caine does to that goalie in Escape to Victory.

P_1

magicbastarder wrote: »

or else, take out 'a deterrent' and put in 'simple thuggery'.
possibly a turf war between rival gangs?

Quite possibly. I guess the good thing to take from it is that there'll be one less little scrote running about stealing bikes from people's sheds for a while.

CramCycle

Vigilante me hole. Kid pissed off someone he shouldn't have and got his leg broke. Could be as simple as being seen robbing the bike to as complicated as being known to other scrotes who wanted him to leave their area for them.

buffalo

I was going to post this in the wimp thread...

Meanwhile in Russia, hundreds of hardy cyclists braved temperatures as low as -27C in Moscow to complete a mass bike ride through the snow-bound Russian capital.

Participants - some dressed in outfits of Santa Claus and his Russian equivalent Ded Moroz - pedalled along the bank of the frozen Moscow river in front of the Kremlin walls.

The Moscow authorities said over 500 people took part in the 15km event - designed to promote cycling in the sprawling city - after organisers refused to call it off despite a danger warning over the freezing temperatures.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0108/843460-icy-weather-europe/

Wishbone Ash

Chuchote wrote: »

... and sure, there's no way of knowing if it's stolen, you just have to cross your fingers....

It pretty easy to tell that a bike may be stolen on Done Deal going by the seller's description and a simple phone call to the seller.

Many sellers of stolen bikes do not know the difference between low and high end compenents. High end components are often not highlighted - something any descent seller will be anxious to advertise. When you phone the seller and they are very vague about details or suddenly say they are selling on behalf of a brother/friend/work mate etc. I'd be suspicious.

I'd also be suspicious if the seller doesn't wish to meet at his/her home.

buffalo

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

Many sellers of stolen bikes do not know the difference between low and high end compenents.

The same is often true of sellers of legit bikes. Not everyone who owns a bike knows a Tiagra from a 105, or even a Shimano from a Campag.

LollipopJimmy

Having been a victim of theft (few grand worth of tools) I can tell you I'd gladly see a thief with a broken leg, unfortunately it's the only thing these guys understand. A former work colleague had his arm broken for a drug debt, he tells me these are the 'rules' when you don't pay.
I despair for humanity at the moment I really do. Last night I spoke to a homeless couple who had been living in a tent, their tent was set alight while they were asleep inside. It's a really sad state of affairs

Kurtosis

CramCycle wrote: »

Really? I found them very dismissive bar the automated e-mail, it was hard to get a response at all. The CCTV went missing, they had no interest in the footage I had. Overall, not a helpful bunch. Although I admit that is not all DB staff, but there is a certain feeling of circling the wagons from some of them when a complaint is made.

I found the same. Reported two issues, one a fairly minor case in terms of danger but more of a rude driver, the second I genuinely felt unsafe, driver swerving into cycle lane at speed on top of me. Both just received the same auto response type email, a lot of which wasn't even relevant to the more serious incident. Contacted them again to follow up and genuinely very little reassurance offered that anyone was being done.

If I'm unlucky enough to have a dangerous encounter with a DB again, I'll be going to the Gardaí in the first instance.

Chuchote

penguin88 wrote: »

I found the same. Reported two issues, one a fairly minor case in terms of danger but more of a rude driver, the second I genuinely felt unsafe, driver swerving into cycle lane at speed on top of me. Both just received the same auto response type email, a lot of which wasn't even relevant to the more serious incident. Contacted them again to follow up and genuinely very little reassurance offered that anyone was being done.

If I'm unlucky enough to have a dangerous encounter with a DB again, I'll be going to the Gardaí in the first instance.

It seems to be one instance where video footage is genuinely helpful. If they have evidence before their eyes of a carve-up close pass, they'll take action.

CramCycle

penguin88 wrote: »

If I'm unlucky enough to have a dangerous encounter with a DB again, I'll be going to the Gardaí in the first instance.

Chuchote wrote: »

It seems to be one instance where video footage is genuinely helpful. If they have evidence before their eyes of a carve-up close pass, they'll take action.

Definitely go to the Gardai first, and don't flinch when they say about pressing charges, they will come back and offer a verbal warning later again.

In my case, not only was it on camera, with very verifiable markers of distance when the driver swung in (my elbow touched the bus), the driver also admitted it, on camera. He actually said he swung in on me, on purpose, to show me how dangerous cycling was. He warned me I was on camera, and I gave him the same courtesy.

DB did not give a sh1t, they had the footage, and then mysteriously, it disappeared a short time later, presumably after it had been reviewed.

This said, the majority of DB drivers are exceptionally good, but I am not an idiot that some drivers in some garages can do no wrong if they are paying their subs for long enough.

Chuchote

CramCycle wrote: »

DB did not give a sh1t, they had the footage, and then mysteriously, it disappeared a short time later, presumably after it had been reviewed.

It is a trap to assume that all of an organisation are a single mind and a single thought and act at one, Cramster. You came across an individual who for whatever reason wanted to protect that particular driver - or perhaps, out of a misplaced sense of loyalty, his organisation. Not everyone in an organisation is the same, thinks the same or acts the same.

For the future though, yeah, go to the man first, and give them a copy of the footage, not the original, with a statement that you're doing so.

Alek

the driver also admitted it, on camera. He actually said he swung in on me, on purpose, to show me how dangerous cycling was. He warned me I was on camera

Unbelieveable. My encounter was nowhere near sinitster as yours.... Congratulations on your cool, after such statement I would have probably pulled him out to show how dangerous being such an utter d***head is.

CramCycle

Chuchote wrote: »

It is a trap to assume that all of an organisation are a single mind and a single thought and act at one, Cramster. You came across an individual who for whatever reason wanted to protect that particular driver - or perhaps, out of a misplaced sense of loyalty, his organisation. Not everyone in an organisation is the same, thinks the same or acts the same.

There were a few people in the process, so not just one. I am certain it is not all, not even close, but I am certain that there are some. I have friends who work for DB who would say the same. It does seem to be changing and I certainly am not tarring them all with the same brush (hence the some part of it). Like I said, most appear to be great.

tomasrojo

Yeah, I'm very happy with Dublin Bus drivers overall, but I couldn't say they don't have a problem with punishment passes still, based both on my own experience and what people have reported here.

P_1

They guards were at the usual useless stopping people and handing out builders vests this morning on Guild Street. Such a waste of money

rubadub

The light sequencing at cabinteely village has changed.

Wonder what further madness they are going to introduce at the new bus stop, maybe a few more manhole covers for good luck. I hope to christ the bus shelter is not one with a split in it where people can wander out the back.

CramCycle

rubadub wrote: »

The light sequencing at cabinteely village has changed.

Wonder what further madness they are going to introduce at the new bus stop, maybe a few more manhole covers for good luck. I hope to christ the bus shelter is not one with a split in it where people can wander out the back.

For something that took so long to do, they really did take time to plaster over the bad planning with nice smooth surfaces. I presume you are on about the one on the N11?