Slattsy wrote: » I thought everyone goes off the drink in January?
DoctaDee wrote: » Some are still working off last years quota Edit .. speaking of which I was trying to drum up a little support to run into tonights Walsh Cup hurling in PP .. days just melt into one another this time of year
ProudDUB wrote: » I think we should replace boozing with going to Confession too. Bless me Father for I have sinned. I spoiled Gods love by not being a proper GAA fan. I did not give Lee Keegan the deference that such a giant of the game is due. Did I mention I wasn't a proper GAA fan? I'm not, according to the Holy Joe from Mayo....and they're experts in these things. Honest to God, Your Worship, burning in hell is too good for me.
ProudDUB wrote: » Buddy, you are the one coming into the Dublin thread and insulting the Dublin players, supporters and posters for not worshipping at the altar of Lee Keegan enough. Yet you still expect to be taken seriously & for people to engage in some sort of serious debate with you? Best of luck with that. You can count me out. I'm done indulging your boredom, or your bitterness.
MayoAreMagic wrote: » Well eyewitness accounts are generally cast iron.
MayoAreMagic wrote: » I pointed out that the behaviour of a faction of the dublin fans was poor at a certain time, and I underlined why. What is not to be taken seriously about that?
MayoAreMagic wrote: » Although I no longer expect people to engage in serious debate here, because it doesnt suit their rhetoric and that is what they seem to stick to religiously. I had hoped that there would be some who would have it about them to stand on their own two feet, ignore the bs party line, and just have an honest conversation about it. I mean it isnt as if they are going to take away Dublin's trophies if you do. Like I admitted AOS went to ground easily against fermanagh - nobody died after I did. What are you so afraid of?
Kavrocks wrote: » They are actually quite the opposite, you can look it up. Eyewitness testimonies are notorious unreliable.
Kavrocks wrote: » I've not followed your debate very closely but you seem to cling very closely to this "faction of Dublin fans" and want to wage some war against them. I honestly don't think you will find any of them in here. The majority of the regular posters in here will be in PP tomorrow, the weekend or for the club championships as well as at the league games. I would class these as genuine and proper GAA fans not part of this "faction of Dublin fans" you seek, which we will only see come the summer.
Kavrocks wrote: » I don't think it was ever your intention to engage in serious debate. I think it was your goal to tell us how Lee Keegan is "a giant of the game" and how we should worship him but when people didn't agree you weren't happy, became defensive and started becoming aggressive towards anybody who disagreed with you.
Kavrocks wrote: » If you do want your serious debate I'd suggest trying to tone things down a bit. Innocent conversations can seem a lot more aggressive when they are in text over the internet instead of spoken face to face. I'd also suggest you try to understand that everybody, including yourself, looks at every situation through rose tinted glasses and people are entitled to their own opinion too.
Billy Mays wrote: » Winning footballer of the year doesn't make him "comfortably the best player in the game" As for your "arguably the best half back of all time" statement... Rose tinted glassed indeed
MayoAreMagic wrote: » Well I think it does. When you consider that the winner 99% of the time comes from the winning county, it shows how far ahead he must have been. Plus you have direct rivals for the position like Mattie Donnelly claiming that he was not only the best this year but the last 3 years too, it displays his dominance. Re your second issue, well he has been compared to tomas o'se regularly, only with better marking ability. O'Se is classed at that level. Therefore, why would that statement be an issue? Pretty straightforward really Id have thought... Have you ever considered that maybe the issue here is that some people might have problem with giving deserved credit to players, just because they are not from their own county?
Billy Mays wrote: » I've no problem giving credit to Keegan. You might think I'm going against the grain here as a Dublin fan but I actually like him. He's a terrific player with a fantastic will to win and any team would be glad to have him. I wasn't surprised he won footballer of the year and I certainly don't think any Dublin player was "robbed" of the award by him winning it. I also agree that the criticism he comes in for is over the top.
Billy Mays wrote: » I don't agree that winning footballer of the year makes a player the best in the country. Colm Cooper is the best player I've seen play the game yet he never won footballer of the player.
Billy Mays wrote: » As for best half back of all time, I'm sure there's players from previous eras would be in the conversation but from the ones I've seen play I'd have McGeeney and Moynahan ahead of him.
ProudDUB wrote: » Ah yoppers, me aul mucker. Howz it hangin'? How is 2017 going for you so far? What did you ask Santy for ? No, wait....let me guess....it's the same thing you've been asking for, these past 61 odd years. Best of luck with that !
MayoAreMagic wrote: » But Cooper hasn't showed that kind of form in a long time. All you are really doing here is changing the parameters of what constitutes the best player in the country. I mean if that is the case, does that mean Jack O'Shea is still the best midfielder in the country? Hence I said arguably. Apparently you agree with that, unbeknown to yourself.
Billy Mays wrote: » F*ck sake. You're being deliberately obtuse with nonsense like this. Where have I said Cooper is currently the best player in the country? I merely stated someone being voted footballer of the year doesn't make them the best player in the country and used Cooper in his prime (not now) as an example.
Billy Mays wrote: » As for your other point, well no I don't arguably agree that Keegan is the best half back of all time which is why I named two players that I think were better than him. I can name full forwards who I think were better than Bernard Brogan which means I don't think Bernard is arguably the best full forward of all time.
MayoAreMagic wrote: » Well then I misunderstood your point, as I thought it was yourself who was being deliberately obtuse here, hence my JOS example.
MayoAreMagic wrote: » And Id argue that keegan has more strings in his bow than mcgeeney, and while maybe not as good an all round footballer as Moynihan, probably has a skillset more specific to excelling as a halfback. In other words, it is arguable, which is what I said.
MayoAreMagic wrote: » Interesting that you interest in the topics being discussed begins and ends with Lee Keegan, considering he was barely a footnote in this discussion. Why is that?
yop wrote: » Alls good chief. Still slightly to the left but the new drugs will fix it. No only 41 years in my case, I was only but a twinkle for the other 20 See you for a bust up in Croker in March
gormdubhgorm wrote: » Just saw there that Conal Keaney's medals were robbed from his car. At least we know it was not a Mayo man, hurling means nothing to them, and they are only after football all-ireland medalshttp://www.newstalk.com/ExDublin-dual-star-Conal-Keaney-appeals-for-return-of-stolen-medals
Bonniedog wrote: » Scumbags. Hope they OD. Hurlers beat Carlow by seven points with pretty makeshift team. Rushie sent off.
ProudDUB wrote: » He won a football All Ireland with 'Boden last year.
gormdubhgorm wrote: » Opps apologies I meant inter-county all-ireland. Still can't believe Boden won that though they should have got knocked out so many times.
gormdubhgorm wrote: » Did any fellas stand out or look like they could push for a starting place?
