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toddler legally allowed to use Cannabis

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http://www.rte.ie/news/2016/1223/841009-tristan-forde-cannabis/

Just seen this on the news.

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Anyone who thinks this is wrong is simply misinformed and I'd love to see them put in a room seeing it stop the seizures and then they have to say "You're not having it because I'm scared of it."

R P McMurphy

SixSixSix wrote: »

I doubt that the side effects are eliminated because of taking it as a suppository.
I suspect it is the removal of the THC that does that!

You doubt it because you have no experience of it . Lot of misinformation on this thread so will leave you to it

SixSixSix

R P McMurphy wrote: »

You doubt it because you have no experience of it .

I doubt it because I doubt the ability of my lower intestines to absorb the useful CBD but not absorb THC.

HellSquirrel

Toddler with seizures given medication. Medication has worked and child is no longer having seizures (which is ofc a very good thing and I'm glad for him).

So why is this news again?

K.Flyer

HellSquirrel wrote: »

Toddler with seizures given medication. Medication has worked and child is no longer having seizures [...]
So why is this news again?

Primarily because the "medication" is a Cannabis extract which contains high levels of THC.
Anything found to contain THC in Ireland is illegal, as is its possession or use. But because the family have shown it to be beneficial to managing their son's condition, the government have set a precedent and granted them a licence to legally use Cannabis as a medicinal product.

HellSquirrel

K.Flyer wrote: »

Primarily because the "medication" is a Cannabis extract which contains high levels of THC.
Anything found to contain THC in Ireland is illegal, as is its possession or use. But because the family have shown it to be beneficial to managing their son's condition, the government have set a precedent and granted them a licence to legally use Cannabis as a medicinal product.

Okay, fair enough.

Esel

K.Flyer wrote: »

Primarily because the "medication" is a Cannabis extract which contains high levels of THC.
Anything found to contain THC in Ireland is illegal, as is its possession or use. But because the family have shown it to be beneficial to managing their son's condition, the government have set a precedent and granted them a licence to legally use Cannabis as a medicinal product.

Low (very low) levels of THC, no?

K.Flyer

Esel wrote: »

Low (very low) levels of THC, no?

Any level of THC has always been deemed illegal, hence the interest in the subject.

Esel

K.Flyer wrote: »

Any level of THC has always been deemed illegal, hence the interest in the subject.

You said high levels, hence my post.

K.Flyer

Esel wrote: »

You said high levels, hence my post.

From my own reading of things it would appear that nuero conditions need to be treated with higher levels of THC. But to put it into context, what may be considered to be a high level of THC in the product may still only be as high (no pun intended) as 20% by volume.

Senna

My 3 year old has/had arthritis and there is many stories within the juvenile arthritis community that cannabis oil has a positive effect on some forms of it.
Thankfully my daughter looks to be recovering from it and past the worst, but I had research cannabis oil and I had also identified a method of getting it from the US, I wouldn't have hesitate in getting it had she needed it.

K.Flyer

Delighted she is doing well and hopefully makes a full recovery.
I have my own family health reasons for digging into the subject myself and trying to learn as much about it as possible, good, bad or indifferent.

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R P McMurphy wrote: »

Jaysus do I have to spell it out. You put the oil in a capsule. This allows people to consume oil without any of the side effects traditionally accociated with cannibas by taking it as a suppository

I don't think you understand what this is at all. Where did you hear this crap?

brembo26

im only on the first page but if it helps, it helps.

no point in someone suffering when there is a way to relieve it in fairness no matter the substance once its also being conrtolled.

but then we have the government that would like to make a substantial profit off it.

lertsnim

Can we cut the bollocks and now legalise this for everyone whose life would improve with it.

brembo26

MODS:Can we have a poll?

I literally have no interest in any form of cannabis but if, like i said it 'helps someone and its controlled' i'm all for it.

TallGlass

Imagine how effective cannabis as drug would-be if people would stop been so fúcking ignorant.

My guess, it's use as a base for other medicines. This and other drug combinations, might end some serious conditions.

Even Heroine and Cocaine, I am sure with proper scienceific research and other drug combinations they can cure. We shouldn't be so ignorant because we see what abuse of these drugs can do.

Electricity can kill you, but in moderationand the correct combination it can keep you alive.

brembo26

To post 48 and 49, I cant see what the issue is, and like i said in previous posts i am not a user. its all to do with the government sure

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My brother's epileptic seizures (he had 100+ petit mal absences a day as an infant) were brought under control for over a decade with the Ketogenic diet thanks to my incredibly committed parents. Now that he's a teenager, the diet is becoming less effective and he's started having quite severe seizures at night again. We would love to talk to somebody who knows more about the treatment in the OP and how to access it. The anti-convulsant drugs we've managed to avoid for so long are changing the happy lad I knew into a cranky, unpredictable person and only barely staving off the actual fits. It's heartbreaking.

brembo26

this and other drug combinations, might end some serious conditions.

Even Heroine and Cocaine,

any bets if used correctly these can help sort out pain and anxiety with the proper research

learn_more

lertsnim wrote: »

Can we cut the bollocks and now legalise this for everyone whose life would improve with it.

Yes , but not for the lives that would wreck it.

K.Flyer

brembo26 wrote: »

MODS:Can we have a poll?

I literally have no interest in any form of cannabis but if, like i said it 'helps someone and its controlled' i'm all for it.

Poll already carried out HERE

pragmatic1

Great news. Cannabis has neuroprotective properties. I smoked ****loads of kush, which is high in CBD, after a TBI. I hate being stoned by it helped hugely.

Billy86

Great news and hopefully it helps the little fella out, it's horrible seeing children with significant health problems.

_Kaiser_

Aaaaaand once again we have some people trying to use this story as a reason to legalise cannabis for recreational use.

As others have said, this is a different product (cannabis oil) with a very different intent (stop the poor little fella having multiple seizures per day, rather than getting high) and in the context of that, I can't see why anyone would have a problem with it.

But it's not the same as letting the "cool kids" get high. Not at all.

pragmatic1

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Aaaaaand once again we have some people trying to use this story as a reason to legalise cannabis for recreational use.

As others have said, this is a different product (cannabis oil) with a very different intent (stop the poor little fella having multiple seizures per day, rather than getting high) and in the context of that, I can't see why anyone would have a problem with it.

But it's not the same as letting the "cool kids" get high. Not at all.

What would be wrong with legalising cannabis.

HellSquirrel

It's certainly a hell of a lot more important that it's legalised for medicinal use than recreational, but it does seem frankly nuts that a drug as objectively safe as cannabis is illegal for medicinal use when far more dangerous synthetic drugs are allowed. I'm by no means an "organic = safe" advocate; -arsenic- is organic. But it appears to work, other countries are legalising it and -even- if it was legalised recreationally, it is far safer than alcohol, which is itself only the second most common drug after caffeine.

It is a very odd social prohibition that we've created against it.

On the flipside, and this is purely from the recreational point of view, it can have effects on people with odd brain chemistry, increasing paranoia and other mental fixiations. It may not be a good idea to legalise something that can have that effect (at least until we know why and if there's a way to mitigate that) and then there's the issue of people abusing it more easily - smoking and driving for instance. We do have both those issues with alcohol already.

But all that aside, as it is a rather different subject, it absolutely should be legalised for medicinal use.

pragmatic1

HellSquirrel wrote: »

It's certainly a hell of a lot more important that it's legalised for medicinal use than recreational, but it does seem frankly nuts that a drug as objectively safe as cannabis is illegal for medicinal use when far more dangerous synthetic drugs are allowed. I'm by no means an "organic = safe" advocate; -arsenic- is organic. But it appears to work, other countries are legalising it and -even- if it was legalised recreationally, it is far safer than alcohol, which is itself only the second most common drug after caffeine.

It is a very odd social prohibition that we've created against it.

On the flipside, and this is purely from the recreational point of view, it can have effects on people with odd brain chemistry, increasing paranoia and other mental fixiations. It may not be a good idea to legalise something that can have that effect (at least until we know why and if there's a way to mitigate that) and then there's the issue of people abusing it more easily - smoking and driving for instance. We do have both those issues with alcohol already.

But all that aside, as it is a rather different subject, it absolutely should be legalised for medicinal use.

I don't care for it personally as it gives me awful paranoia but I don't see a reason for it's prohibition. There's no hangover or lasting negative effects that I'm aware of.

As for alcohol, that's right up there with heroin, crack and meth in terms of abuse to the body and addiction potential. It would never be legal if it was a new drug. It's physically worse on the body than the hardest of drugs.

So there's a hypocritical and irrational view we have when it comes to drug policy and it's done so much harm worldwide that it can't be ignored for much longer.

InTheTrees

HellSquirrel wrote: »

On the flipside, and this is purely from the recreational point of view, it can have effects on people with odd brain chemistry, increasing paranoia and other mental fixiations. It may not be a good idea to legalise something that can have that effect (at least until we know why and if there's a way to mitigate that) and then there's the issue of people abusing it more easily - smoking and driving for instance. We do have both those issues with alcohol already.

I think the whole point with recreational cannabis is that people do use it more easily. If it causes a drop in demand for alcohol then thats a good thing.

Its been fully legal here in Washington for two years now and last month California and Massachusetts voted for full recreational legalisation as well, meaning he etire west coast of the USA now is fully legal.

So there's 60-70 million people now living with FULL legalisation.

InTheTrees

pragmatic1 wrote: »

I don't care for it personally as it gives me awful paranoia but I don't see a reason for it's prohibition.

Thts probably because you've been given a strain thats high in THC and very very low in CBD, becsuse those strains generates the most obvious high and so generate the most cash for the illegal dealers.

When you buy it from a street dealer you may be getting anything from the equivalent of a glass of whiskey to a pint of shandy, you have no way of knowing, and I dont suppose many of the people in the supply chain have any idea either.

The state of the illegal market is like walking into a pub and ordering a pint of "alcohol" with no idea what youre going to get.