Amazingfun wrote: » I know your "brand" is cutsey cluelessness, but I'll play: it's of note since they are agitating against pro-White advocates, or those they perceive as such. This is noteworthy, as I would have imagined they considered themselves "white". Apparently not!
ancapailldorcha wrote: » When did white supremacists become "Pro-White activists?"
midnight city wrote: » You think people can't advocate for white interests without being supremacist? Have you been on Facebook lately, on Twitter, read the papers, watched TV, been on American campuses, listened to feminists? They are pretty clear 'whiteness' is a thing. A problem even. White people better start looking out for their interests because there are people out there looking to bring them down a peg or 2 simply for being white.
Amazingfun wrote: » "White supremacist"? Spencer already said he isn't one, at the very beginning of this interview posted a while back now.
Billy86 wrote: » I literally just asked you why it is important that they are Jewish, and you failed to answer it. If you were referring to them being white, you would have said it was telling that they were white - not that they were Jewish, especially as many people (a number of Jews themselves included) consider a lot of Jews to be a race of their own. I'd ask you again, but we both know you're not going to answer. Seriously, you could not be any more transparent, trying to hint that neo-Nazi's like Richard Spencer wouldn't have anything against Jewish people. From one of Spencer's buddies on the matter in the last few days: "This is the Jews for you, people. They are a vicious, evil race of hate-filled psychopaths." And again: "Tell them you are sickened by their Jew agenda to attack and harm the mother of someone whom they disagree with." I mean seriously, what ever in the world could this man and his followers ever have against the Jewish people? Can't wait to hear how you think the guy on the plane thought Ivanka Trump is a white supremacist. Because that's what you're after saying.
ancapailldorcha wrote: » White interests? What exactly would these be? White people are the most privileged group in society. You couldn't even cite examples of whites being oppressed so you had to allude to nonsense on Twitter. Are you this thin skinned?
Billy86 wrote: » I guess all the Nazi salutes and allusions, and his playing up to them in the video above never happened then.
midnight city wrote: » Why am I not surprised Twitter was the example you choose to highlight. You missed university campuses, the place where tomorrows leaders come from. They are teaching courses like 'the problem with whiteness' in some universities. So called 'white privilege' is everywhere on campus. If you don't see a rise in antiwhite sentiment particularly in America then you are willfully blind. Waste of time this these discussions anyway, nobody ever changes their position.
Amazingfun wrote: » :rolleyes: I was the one who posted The Atlantic's 11 documentary, weeks ago now. I also gave the context around the #heilgate controversy that emerged from it. Why do you enjoy merry-go-rounds so?
Re: your jewish Q: I did answer your question, you didn't like it, is all. So what?
And please, Trump is called a "white supremacist/KKK/other hysterical label" on a regular basis, despite him not being anything near that at all, lol.
Amazingfun wrote: » zzzzz, already been covered ad nauseam. It was an asian porn star, Tila Tequila, and two jewish guys, who started that stuff, they were doing it all through the weekend, ironically obviously. It was the end of a high energy conference and was, as Spencer said, a spillover of exuberance when others joined in.
Privilege: a special right, advantage, or immunity granted or available only to a particular person or group.
AnGaelach wrote: » What can I do that a black or Asian person can't, exactly?
oscarBravo wrote: » Live your life without racism being a daily concern?
AnGaelach wrote: » Ah would you go away, I'm a Dub who spent half of his life living in the countryside. These fúckers despise me.
Seriously though, racism is hardly an issue here. I don't know of anyone here walking around trying to lynch Asians, do you?
Prominent critics of the Trump administration need to learn from Gamergate. They need to be prepared for abuse, for falsified concerns, invented grassroots campaigns designed specifically to break, belittle, or disgrace. Words and concepts will be twisted, repackaged and shared across forums, stripping them of meaning. Gamergate painted critics as censors, the far-right movement claims critics are the real racists. Perhaps the true lesson of Gamergate was that the media is culturally unequipped to deal with the forces actively driving these online movements. The situation was horrifying enough two years ago, it is many times more dangerous now.
oscarBravo wrote: » ...and there speaks the voice of privilege. "I'm unaware of racism, therefore racism isn't a problem."
Brian? wrote: » Oh he said he isn't a white supremacist. I can't believe I was so wrong. If he said he wasn't one I shouldn't have accused him of being one, no matter how many times he's recorded speaking about the superiority of the "white" race.
AnGaelach wrote: » It's illegal to discriminate based on race (either in employment or in accessing a good/service), and racist incidences are already covered by the Courts and legislation. There's no specific law pertaining to race-related crimes, but they generally fall under other laws and the judge can decide whether or not racist intent was an aggravating offence.
Amazingfun wrote: » Wishing you all a Merry Christmas, despite our clear political differences.
Amazingfun wrote: » He talks about provable achievements. Your snark doesn't change that, and is why you can never do anything but sneer. He isn't a supremacist, he is just an advocate for his people. And good for him for doing it.
midnight city wrote: » He very much is a supremacist, he generally tries to hide it as he understands politically its not going to advance his cause. But the mask slips sometimes. He believes in ethnic supremacy within the white race. If you listen to him it's Germanic and Nordic people he really believes in. He has taken a political position where he claims to advocate for all European people. If he stuck to that and left out the talk of colonisers and using nazi terms he may attract more people.
PopePalpatine wrote: » I guess I was right to assume that the Irish wouldn't get to the top of the racial hierarchy in an alt-right state. :rolleyes:
PS: Wishing you all a Merry Christmas, despite our clear political differences.
oscarBravo wrote: » That's your argument? There are laws against racism, therefore racism isn't a problem?
oscarBravo wrote: » I guess, by that rationale, domestic violence against women isn't a problem, despite there being over sixteen thousand reported instances of it last year. But hey: it's illegal, so that's fine, we can stop worrying about it now.
oscarBravo wrote: » You asked for an example of privilege; I gave you one. In turn, if you had set out to carefully construct a response that perfectly exemplified privilege for ironic purposes, you couldn't have done a better job.
AnGaelach wrote: » ...you touted out a belief that racism exists, without offering any sort of proof or facts to back this up.
oscarBravo wrote: » If you don't believe racism exists, there's really nothing left to talk about.
AnGaelach wrote: » Of course it exists.
The fact is that you're making it out to be a tremendous issue, that it actively impedes on the life of people.
oscarBravo wrote: » Make up your mind. Not the lives of white people, no.
oscarBravo wrote: » Have you ever had a conversation with a black person about racism in Ireland?
