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The alt right - Mod Warning in OP

20Cent

What is the alt right?
Been hearing the term used more frequently since Trump has been elected.
I thought it was just milo and Katie Hopkins type trolling but it seems to be something bigger than that.

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frostyjacks

Looks like Ivanka Trump will need some extra security wherever she goes. Why do some people feel they can shout and scream abuse and get away with it? I won't even get into the background of her attacker lest I'm accused of homophobia and anti-Semitism. Apparently he had a child with him to boot, what an example to set.

Amazingfun

20Cent wrote: »

Look at Spencers buddies response.

Jews Targeting Richard Spencer’s Mother for Harassment and Extortion – TAKE ACTION!
Andrew Anglin | It's time to push back against these evil kikes!

http://www.dailystormer.com/jews-targeting-richard-spencers-mother-for-harassment-and-extortion-take-action/

Photo's (with Nazi Jewish stars photoshopped on them), social media accounts,(including a 12 year olds), phone numbers etc published. All harrassed and threatened. The 12 year old was told to climb into an oven.

Spencer runs his campaigns from the building so it's fair game imo.

He doesn't "run his campaigns" from the building, but good to note you consider extortion and the attacking of innocent family members "fair game"

20Cent

Amazingfun wrote: »

He doesn't "run his campaigns" from the building, but good to note you consider extortion and the attacking of innocent family members "fair game"

He uses the premises for his organisation so yeah fair game their both adults.
He didn't lick being a Nazi off a rock.

InTheTrees

Amazingfun wrote: »

He doesn't "run his campaigns" from the building, but good to note you consider extortion and the attacking of innocent family members "fair game"

It's a quaint tourist town in the mountains. Local craft shops, souvenirs and tea rooms. I've been there a few times.
The very last thing the locals are going to put up with is having the place become known for nazis and the intimidation of jews.

oscarBravo

frostyjacks wrote: »

Why do some people feel they can shout and scream abuse and get away with it?

Because they're assholes. There's no political persuasion with a monopoly on assholes.

I won't even get into the background of her attacker lest I'm accused of homophobia and anti-Semitism.

And yet, you managed to insinuate that her attacker is gay and Jewish, and that these things are somehow relevant.

Like I said: no monopoly.

midnight city

oscarBravo wrote: »

And yet, you managed to insinuate that her attacker is gay and Jewish, and that these things are somehow relevant.

Nobody is too surprised the townfolk don't want Spencer about their tourist town. But this grench woman decided to try and profit out if the whole episode. Getting him out wasn't enough she spotted a chance to line her pockets. Considering she is Jewish and in a dispute with a white supremacist like Spencer it wasn't the wisest move. It was an open invitation to Spencer's supporter. She should have left money well out of it. She left herself open to being accused of being a walking stereotype.

InTheTrees

midnight city wrote: »

And yet, She left herself open to being accused of being a walking stereotype.

Personally I'd be proud of incurring the wrath of a bunch of self important play nazis.

marienbad

midnight city wrote: »

Nobody is too surprised the townfolk don't want Spencer about their tourist town. But this grench woman decided to try and profit out if the whole episode. Getting him out wasn't enough she spotted a chance to line her pockets. Considering she is Jewish and in a dispute with a white supremacist like Spencer it wasn't the wisest move. It was an open invitation to Spencer's supporter. She should have left money well out of it. She left herself open to being accused of being a walking stereotype.

and of course you walked right into it

20Cent

midnight city wrote: »

Nobody is too surprised the townfolk don't want Spencer about their tourist town. But this grench woman decided to try and profit out if the whole episode. Getting him out wasn't enough she spotted a chance to line her pockets. Considering she is Jewish and in a dispute with a white supremacist like Spencer it wasn't the wisest move. It was an open invitation to Spencer's supporter. She should have left money well out of it. She left herself open to being accused of being a walking stereotype.

Would be hesitant to believe the Nazi's version of events tbh.

Billy86

midnight city wrote: »

Nobody is too surprised the townfolk don't want Spencer about their tourist town. But this grench woman decided to try and profit out if the whole episode. Getting him out wasn't enough she spotted a chance to line her pockets. Considering she is Jewish and in a dispute with a white supremacist like Spencer it wasn't the wisest move. It was an open invitation to Spencer's supporter. She should have left money well out of it. She left herself open to being accused of being a walking stereotype.

Without even beginning to get going on this post, you... are aware that the post you quoted to was not referring to the Spencer story, right?

And actually while I'm at it, where did the woman in the Spencer story try to 'line her own pockets'?

Widdershins

frostyjacks wrote: »

Looks like Ivanka Trump will need some extra security wherever she goes. Why do some people feel they can shout and scream abuse and get away with it? I won't even get into the background of her attacker lest I'm accused of homophobia and anti-Semitism. Apparently he had a child with him to boot, what an example to set.

But does his background have a bearing on the attack? It seems to be entirely incidental. The man had a go at Ivanka because he hates her father, just like many people of various backgrounds in America. It had nothing whatsoever to do with sexuality or religion. He wasn't acting that way because of either of those things.

midnight city

20Cent wrote: »

Would be hesitant to believe the Nazi's version of events tbh.

The emails are there for everyone to see.

oscarBravo

midnight city wrote: »

Nobody is too surprised the townfolk don't want Spencer about their tourist town. But this grench woman decided to try and profit out if the whole episode. Getting him out wasn't enough she spotted a chance to line her pockets. Considering she is Jewish and in a dispute with a white supremacist like Spencer it wasn't the wisest move. It was an open invitation to Spencer's supporter. She should have left money well out of it. She left herself open to being accused of being a walking stereotype.

I have no idea what any of that has to do with an incident involving Ivanka Trump on a JetBlue flight.

Billy86

oscarBravo wrote: »

I have no idea what any of that has to do with an incident involving Ivanka Trump on a JetBlue flight.

I think you may have 'triggered' him with the word 'Jewish'!

oscarBravo

Widdershins wrote: »

But does his background have a bearing on the attack? It seems to be entirely incidental. The man had a go at Ivanka because he hates her father, just like many people of various backgrounds in America. It had nothing whatsoever to do with sexuality or religion. He wasn't acting that way because of either of those things.

Those are facts. The kind of people who foam at the mouth about gays and Jews are, frankly, immune to facts.

InTheTrees

20Cent wrote: »

Would be hesitant to believe the Nazi's version of events tbh.

Really.

The alt right nazis haven't exactly shown themselves to be truthful about much.

Amazingfun

InTheTrees wrote: »

Really.

The alt right nazis haven't exactly shown themselves to be truthful about much.

Crap. The facts are there for all to see. Grench is a extortionist and I hope legal means can be enacted against her and the hilariously named "Love Lives Here" shakedown outfit.

Also, it's of note that both incidents (plane/Whitefish) involve hostile Jews.

Billy86

Amazingfun wrote: »

Also, it's of note that both incidents (plane/Whitefish) involve hostile Jews.

Why?

Widdershins

Amazingfun wrote: »

Crap. The facts are there for all to see. Grench is a extortionist and I hope legal means can be enacted against her and the hilariously named "Love Lives Here" shakedown outfit.

Also, it's of note that both incidents (plane/Whitefish) involve hostile Jews.

If they were acting on a religious precept it would be perfectly reasonable to comment on their religion.

They weren't, never claimed to be, never brought religion into it.

So it's like saying, it's of note that both incidents involved people with hair.

I'm totally stumped as to the gay part.

InTheTrees

Amazingfun wrote: »

Also, it's of note that both incidents (plane/Whitefish) involve hostile Jews.

Nazis whining about Jews, there's a surprise, good upstanding Christians that they are.

Funny.

Amazingfun

InTheTrees wrote: »

Nazis whining about Jews, there's a surprise, good upstanding Christians that they are.

Funny.

Yes, funny you ignore what Gersh and the female Rabbi, leader of "Love Lives Here" *snort* enacted against an innocent woman who, unlike them, built something/ brought value to the town.

I don't care about your "nazi" namecalling, stupid as it is, it has as much effect now as raaaacist used to, lol.

Funny indeed

Billy86

Amazingfun wrote: »

Yes, funny you ignore what Gersh and the female Rabbi, leader of "Love Lives Here" *snort* enacted against an innocent woman who, unlike them, built something/ brought value to the town.

I don't care about your "nazi" namecalling, stupid as it is, it has as much effect now as raaaacist used to, lol.

Funny indeed

Why is it of note that both situations involve Jewish people?

vetinari

Jaysus, that didn't take long to escalate. I'm waiting for Amazing fun to complain about political correctness for being called out about his anti semitism

InTheTrees

vetinari wrote: »

Jaysus, that didn't take long to escalate. I'm waiting for Amazing fun to complain about political correctness for being called out about his anti semitism

Its like the "alt right" have become the most enormous babies whining about everything they feel entitled to and can't have.

Seriously coming down on Jews? Have we not done that crap enough and didn't it end very badly for the Nazis? Have they learned nothing?

Whining about immigrants. Whining about women too. Really, grow a pair ffs.

Amazingfun

Billy86 wrote: »

Why is it of note that both situations involve Jewish people?

I know your "brand" is cutsey cluelessness, but I'll play:
it's of note since they are agitating against pro-White advocates, or those they perceive as such. This is noteworthy, as I would have imagined they considered themselves "white".
Apparently not!

Widdershins

Amazingfun wrote: »

I know your "brand" is cutsey cluelessness, but I'll play:
it's of note since they are agitating against pro-White advocates, or those they perceive as such. This is noteworthy, as I would have imagined they considered themselves "white".
Apparently not!

Is the Ivanka incident a separate issue? I haven't been following the thread lately

oscarBravo

Amazingfun wrote: »

I know your "brand" is cutsey cluelessness, but I'll play:
it's of note since they are agitating against pro-White advocates, or those they perceive as such. This is noteworthy, as I would have imagined they considered themselves "white".
Apparently not!

I would have thought whiteness and Jewishness were perfectly orthogonal. Outside the fevered imaginations of national socialists, of course.

vetinari

Last I checked, you could be non white and still Jewish.
Trump's election is certainly allowing the bigots to be more open and honest with themselves.

ancapailldorcha

When did white supremacists become "Pro-White activists?"

midnight city

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

When did white supremacists become "Pro-White activists?"

You think people can't advocate for white interests without being supremacist? Have you been on Facebook lately, on Twitter, read the papers, watched TV, been on American campuses, listened to feminists? They are pretty clear 'whiteness' is a thing. A problem even. White people better start looking out for their interests because there are people out there looking to bring them down a peg or 2 simply for being white.