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BANGERNOMICS (sub2k) of the week/day

colm_mcm

Modnote - Thread moved to new thread because the other one was near 10k posts.

Bangernomics part 4 here

Bangernomics rules:
Under €2000
Valid NCT
Something you'd actually drive yourself
VRT paid

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wotzgoingon

brady23 wrote: »

Moving back to Ireland in July/August so will be looking here for some ideas.

Currently in NZ bought a 99 1.6 Golf with 158000km needs a timing belt soon along with a few more bits, multiple mechanics (indo & indo at car fair) told me I got a good deal at 3000$ so 2000e, so many older cars here are far higher in price but bigger engines, low tax and optional insurance. It's a far cry from home

Daylight robbery a 1999 1.6 golf 2k.

selectamatic

unkel wrote: »

Non pd? I know very little about diesel engines and even less about VAG diesels, but I thought all the VAG turbo diesel engines of that era had been pd for years and they switched to common rail a few years later?

VW and audi went all pd around about 01 but skoda and seat continued to use some of the older non pd engines in certain trim levels I think it was kinda like a surplus of left overs similar to how the mk1 octavia could be got up to 09.

Easy way to know is if it's 90bhp or 110bhp it's non pd. The 90bhp has an old school wastegated turbo where as the 110bhp has a vnt turbo but still retained the old style injection system.

100bhp 115bhp 130bhp and 150bhp were the early pd's. Think the 115bhp in the b5 Passat marked the intro of pd tdi's.

80s Child

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2005-bmw-520-new-nct-01-18-2-2-petrol/14217131

05 E60 automatic with leather and NCT to 2018 for €1750. Cheap for "premium" motoring

I don't need a car, I REALLY don't, but what's the story with these? I can see myself buying one of these or a 520d in a few years when their price drops. Mechanic won't let me go near a beemer because of the servicing/parts cost.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

wotzgoingon wrote: »

Daylight robbery a 1999 1.6 golf 2k.

Standard NZ price. I paid 4k for a 1993 2.2 legacy in NZ in 2013 and that was a steal.

Tax is nothing, $70 if I remember right.
Insurance? What's insurance...

Cheap fuel costs.

The WOF (NCT) is $25 and it's not total bullshìt like the NCT is here.

It's a fantastic place to be a motorist.

The cars are expensive but you save everywhere else.

Mister Jingles

80s Child wrote: »

I don't need a car, I REALLY don't, but what's the story with these? I can see myself buying one of these or a 520d in a few years when their price drops. Mechanic won't let me go near a beemer because of the servicing/parts cost.

I was and still slightly am in this position as well except i was told not to return to my mechanic if i did buy one

Which I was quite surprised by as I was under the impression that straight 6 petrols were reliable.

There are a lot of spurious parts for these around now so the cost of parts isnt meant to be as bad and you think.

brady23

wotzgoingon wrote: »

brady23 wrote: »

Moving back to Ireland in July/August so will be looking here for some ideas.

Currently in NZ bought a 99 1.6 Golf with 158000km needs a timing belt soon along with a few more bits, multiple mechanics (indo & indo at car fair) told me I got a good deal at 3000$ so 2000e, so many older cars here are far higher in price but bigger engines, low tax and optional insurance. It's a far cry from home

Daylight robbery a 1999 1.6 golf 2k.

As backed up by other poster, it's quite decent here, cars hold value much more given the lower running costs.

Additionally imports are huge here, mine howevver is NZ made or "NZ new" as they say, it's also manual which is unusual.
I would say there are less manuals in Auckland than automatics in Dublin. Manual is more expensive in general so it's decent.
Should still get 2500$ even without timing belt done.

jacksie66

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Duke O Smiley

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/jaguar-s-type-for-sale/14218205

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Black on black V8 S type, NCT 7/17 €2k. Pricey but a beaut

selectamatic

Dammit I was expecting a Vinnie Jones style south London gangster wagon with black alloys.

Soarer

Trojan wrote: »

How does the M54B22 compare with the N43B20 in later E60 520i? I'm currently driving the M54B25 E39 and considering a move to E60 or E61.

Can someone translate that for me?

unkel

Soarer wrote: »

Can someone translate that for me?

I'll try

Trojan wrote: »

How does the M54B22 compare with the N43B20 in later E60 520i? I'm currently driving the M54B25 E39 and considering a move to E60 or E61.

Compare how? Your 2.5 engine in your older model 5-series is more powerful than the same 2.2 engine in the newer model, a very competent and well made car, but it is heavier than yours and nowhere near as good as a drivers car. Still both have that classic BMW straight six smoothness and refinement

The newer model is only a 4 pot. The first ever BMW 520i with only a 4 pot. Nothing wrong with it, but it's not a straight 6. Fuel consumption will be a lot less as this is a modern efficient direct injection as opposed to the old skool 6-pot. I doubt it will be as indestructible and reliable though. How could it be?

Also tax will only be €710 (2l as opposed to €951 for the 2.2l and €1080 for your 2.5l). (@Soarer - the first 3 letters indicate the engine model, the number after the letter B means the capacity of the engine, so B25 means a 2.5l engine). On the new regime tax will go further down to €570 for both auto and manual

Very few post '08 petrols for sale though...

80s Child

Soarer wrote: »

Can someone translate that for me?

Ha ha ha.... I thought it was just me! I felt like I was reading Mandarin!

jca

80s Child wrote: »

Ha ha ha.... I thought it was just me! I felt like I was reading Mandarin!

The translation isn't a whole lot better...

unkel

jca wrote: »

The translation isn't a whole lot better...

I failed? I'll try again!

E39: BMW 5-series model number (3 generations ago)
E60: BMW 5-series model number (2 generations ago) - Sedan / Saloon
E61: BMW 5-series model number (2 generations ago) - Touring / Stationwagon

M54: straight six cylinder petrol engine from the early 00s
N43: straight four cylinder petrol engine from the late 00s

B22: number after the B indicates how many litres the capacity of the engine is. 22 indicates 2.2l

That better?

jca

unkel wrote: »

I failed? I'll try again!

E39: BMW 5-series model number (3 generations ago)
E60: BMW 5-series model number (2 generations ago) - Sedan / Saloon
E61: BMW 5-series model number (2 generations ago) - Touring / Stationwagon

M54: straight six cylinder petrol engine from the early 00s
N43: straight four cylinder petrol engine from the late 00s

B22: number after the B indicates how many litres the capacity of the engine is. 22 indicates 2.2l

That better?

Perfect many thanks. I could never make head nor tail of those E or N classifications.

Soarer

unkel wrote: »

I failed? I'll try again!

E39: BMW 5-series model number (3 generations ago)
E60: BMW 5-series model number (2 generations ago) - Sedan / Saloon
E61: BMW 5-series model number (2 generations ago) - Touring / Stationwagon

M54: straight six cylinder petrol engine from the early 00s
N43: straight four cylinder petrol engine from the late 00s

B22: number after the B indicates how many litres the capacity of the engine is. 22 indicates 2.2l

That better?

Better, and kinda sad.

BorneTobyWilde

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/04-alfa-156-ti-nctd-1-18-taxed-3-17/14155932

O Romeo, Romeo, wherefore art thou Romeo?

With the tax the new tyres and new parts and long nct then its decent at 1500.00

Cheensbo

Soarer wrote: »

Better, and kinda sad.

Yer in the wrong forum to be calling petrolheads sad....

Oblig post.... If you want a nice looking saloon with no power, chape (relatively) tax & a fancy badge, look no further

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bmw-316-mtec-nct-5-17-400-no-offers/13790314

26000 Elephants

^ chape, but RAF.

I still would.... :cool:

jcon1913

26000 Elephants wrote: »

^ chape, but RAF.

I still would.... :cool:

Only took 2 mins to figure out RAF ðŸ˜„ðŸ˜„ðŸ˜„

jayo26

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/04-alfa-156-ti-nctd-1-18-taxed-3-17/14155932

O Romeo, Romeo, wherefore art thou Romeo?

With the tax the new tyres and new parts and long nct then its decent at 1500.00

Sunvisor sitting on the back seat it's falling apart

racso1975

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1200 looks fairly tidy high mileage should be ok if looked after service wise. like the colour too. https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-avensis-d4d-tax-amp-new-nct-cheap-to-clear/14190600

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895 I'd want to see evidence of TB as opposed to the fresh tippex

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/lovely-lexus-gs-300-for-sale/13839173

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800 and you could probably get it cheaper though i'd question the mileage on it

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/volkswagen-bora-tdi-nct/12914066

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1750 looks lovely I think!!! whoever put advert up deserves a slap as it say nct 2015 but the nct site say jan 2018

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/jaguar-x-type-v6-sport/14217775

racso1975

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Never saw or heard of one of these before!!! its god awful looking but big enough to carry a few drums of petrol in it id imagine.
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2006-suburu-tribeca-killarney-086-8748156/14125154

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Nice looking motor. I dont think the leather looks excellent as stated and prob looks a bit dried out to be honest but can be got in budget

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bmw-e60-525i/14019637

Trojan

How does the M54B22 compare with the N43B20 in later E60 520i? I'm currently driving the M54B25 E39 and considering a move to E60 or E61.

Direct translation:

How does the older 6 cylinder 2.2L engine compare with the newer 4 cyclinder 2.0L in the 5th generation 520i? I'm currently driving a 4th generation 525i and considering a move to the 5th generation (either saloon or maybe even estate).

I'm asking because I was wondering about things like running costs (as Unkel pointed out, both fuel and tax would be lower), reliability (the 6 cyclinders are a known entity) and driveability.

Nekarsulm

So, got the latest "Bangernomics" machine home.
Already have had serious expenditure with it. 6 liters of Synthetic and a filter, 48 Euro!

Hal1

Must be a nice and silky smooth drive from her now. Well wear with it.

tinofapples

racso1975 wrote: »

1750 looks lovely I think!!! whoever put advert up deserves a slap as it say nct 2015 but the nct site say jan 2018

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/jaguar-x-type-v6-sport/14217775

Jag gone within a few hours :eek:

OldMrBrennan83

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carzony

Nekarsulm wrote: »

So, got the latest "Bangernomics" machine home.
Already have had serious expenditure with it. 6 liters of Synthetic and a filter, 48 Euro!

Looks very clean, would you mind me asking what you paid?

Nekarsulm

carzony wrote: »

Looks very clean, would you mind me asking what you paid?

675 Euro. (700 and a luck penny)