Gonzo wrote: » we won't see the fruits of the momentum shown over past 6 weeks till February or March at least. Very little happened between September and November, compared to what should have happened, that's why there is only a handful of places going live with small rollouts. I've a feeling January will only have 2 or 3 exchanges going live, the open Eir map hasn't been updated in a month now, hopefully we will find out more soon.
BuzzG wrote: » From driving around there is an awful lot of preparation work going on, doubt FTTH is gone on the back burner. If Open eir control the next generation fibre network going to people's homes that secures eir for the next wave of development, they cannot risk loosing control of this strategic infrastructure to another operator like SIRO. It's in eir's long term interest to push forward with FTTH!
damienirel wrote: » 300k by end of 2018 and they've done 351 :eek::eek: Meanwhile those connected directly to exchanges since cabinets close-by went live 3 years ago are left to rot on substandard connections. Hard to have any time for these bunch of wasters.
Gonzo wrote: » they must have close to 3,000 completed out of 302,000 now. They are expecting to pass 34,000 premises per quarter during 2017. (roughly 11,000 per month)
damienirel wrote: » Time will tell.
Gonzo wrote: » If there is still less than 10,000 premises passed by end of April then it would be time to get worried! The first 4 months of this rollout has seen around 3,000 premises passed, that's a rate of 9,000 per year! They basically need 11,000-12,000 per month from February/March onwards to finish by end of December 2018.
MBSnr wrote: » ^^^ What happens to the rollout once they cannot cut back hedgerows from March 1st until August 31st...?
ED E wrote: » Same as before, done in a February blitz then on to pole work during the ban.
damienirel wrote: » That techbytes update is dreadful, if that's all they have to show for the last few months, with no updates only dates getting pushed out. There seems to have been a major slowdown on the surface - one can only hope they are slowed down by winter weather and re-training of staff to deal with the new network - otherwise it's brutal progress or lack of. On the other hand this looks positive:http://www.irishtimes.com/business/retail-and-services/eir-beefs-up-board-ahead-of-possible-flotation-in-2018-1.2912663
rob808 wrote: » Then haven't even finish FTTC rollout is it really that surprising at the slow FTTH rollout.
damienirel wrote: » Valid points made here about the nonsense announcements made by Eir.
And with no neutral oversight, the potential for lobbying by those with star-power or influence will inevitably become a factor in the private roll-out schedule. To date both siro and eir have shown that they are amenable to this kind of influence and not all communities are equally blessed with high profile individuals to do a bit of lobbying.
Areas coming within the scope of providers’ plans may potentially be removed from the NBP intervention area. Their place in the broadband queue will then be at the sole discretion of the providers. And with no neutral oversight, the potential for lobbying by those with star-power or influence will inevitably become a factor in the private roll-out schedule.
Gonzo wrote: » Open Eir were busy here again today, they seem almost finished: today they were back splicing for homes along the ducting areas with tables set up with engineers working on the splice box's. I'll have a look tomorrow to see if the area is finally complete.
rob808 wrote: » I wish they would just finish up the areas they started so they can focus on areas they haven't even started.They should give realistic dates on the exchanges instead of this early 2017/mid 2017 or H2 2017.
Gonzo wrote: » Starting an exchange, and putting them partly live is frustrating not just for the people left hanging but for others as well as it slows down moving onto or completing new exchanges and the people left hanging have no idea when their roads will be done as the exchanges are already marked as live. The first exchanges that went live in September are getting more complete as time goes on tho.
Johnboy1951 wrote: » I appreciate the frustration ..... have it myself ..... but I suspect that the most efficient use of resources/manpower is to do a number of blue-lines in parallel. I console myself with that idea ..... it is to be expected IMO.
ED E wrote: » The final phase of setup requires appointments with customers. This is the slow and painful bit. Right now they appear to be focusing on the bulk work that they can have 100% staff utilization for, makes sense. For VDSL installers have 4x 2hr slots per day, if John Doe isnt home they're wasting time waiting for the next one.
damienirel wrote: » Yep - said this a while ago on this thread but nobody agreed with me. It will be the reason for most of the delays by far.
Gonzo wrote: » I wonder how many installs can be carried out in an exchange per day. Probably only a few per week I imagine. When ever I finally get to order, i'd imagine at least 4 weeks wait for the install. The priority should definitely be rolling out the fiber to new areas, those who have fiber in their area can rest easy and wait for an install. With the rollout so behind schedule it's best they do everything they can to speed it back up.
damienirel wrote: » In your case I'd say you'll be fine as you're one of very few exchanges going live. It will be a problem later when Eir will be up to their necks in the rollout - if that ever happens.
ED E wrote: » The final phase of setup requires appointments with customers. This is the slow and painful bit. Right now they appear to be focusing on the bulk work that they can have 100% staff utilization for, makes sense.
For VDSL installers have 4x 2hr slots per day, if John Doe isnt home they're wasting time waiting for the next one.
Johnboy1951 wrote: » Indeed as many have pointed out in this thread, the estimates given by eir are for premises 'passed' and not connections made. There has never, that I recall, been any mention by eir of actual 'connections' made. So it is only reasonable that eir should be putting all their effort at present, in getting as many premises 'passed' as they can. This is after all a commercial build-out, and eir will do what they think is right for them, regardless what anyone else might think, me included