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The Boggers Log

ThebitterLemon

After some sage advise from Krusty, I've decided to dip my toe into the training log pool.

My 12 month objective is to crack a sub 3, but my immediate objective is to run a 3.05 -3.07 in Seville in February.

I've done a few marathons and did Valencia a couple of weeks ago as a training run (fantastic event by the way), and I've started a 12 week McMillan running program last Monday.

I'll try to post here as frequently as possible and would appreciate any feedback proffered.

Again, tnx Krusty for his time and inputs.

TbL

3 sessions completed so far;

1. 30 min warm up followed by, 22, 30 second strides with 1 min recovery run at between 5k and 1 mile race pace. 15 min cool down jog

2. 70 mins easy run

3. 50 min easy run

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tang1

FBOT01 wrote: »

Do you not have to be one to speak for them

^^^^^^^

My vote for post of the year right there!!!

Annie get your Run

FBOT01 wrote: »

Do you not have to be one to speak for them

Excusez moi? I am young(ish) compared to some people in here

laura_ac3

Good to see you popping back in with an update. Take care with the recovery though and don't rush it. Good luck with it all.

Just out of curiosity, do you ever consider taking a break from the marathon cycles and goals and focusing the training specifically on something shorter, even for a few months?

What's with the fudge slating by the way. That's just uncalled for.

annapr

wait... are you doing Pisa then? .... what the fudge!

kit3

FBOT01 wrote: »

Do you not have to be one to speak for them

So, at the risk of starting a war in tbl's absence, what is defined as a 'young wan' then ?? :pac:

tang1

kit3 wrote: »

So, at the risk of starting a war in tbl's absence, what is defined as a 'young wan' then ?? :pac:

Anyone younger than TAFKAFD!!!!

kit3

tang1 wrote: »

Anyone younger than TAFKAFD!!!!

Hmmm, googled it & I'm none the wiser so I guess I don't make the cut

Annie get your Run

tang1 wrote: »

Anyone younger than TAFKAFD!!!!

She might be old(er) than you but she's catching up with you :pac: watch over your shoulder tang1

TBL look what happens when you leave your log open and unattended

kit3

Ah, got it d'oh !!!

snailsong

Good to have you back, Lemon.
Get the calf sorted, keep up the log, your time will come soon.

Mrs Mc

The Fudge ..... didn't realise things were that bad ..... if you see yourself reaching for the coffee cream Roses you'll know you've hit rock bottom.

Great to see you back to yourself again fighting the good fight

UM1

no more wishywashy posts please.....Mtfu old man....see u in feb

kit3

Mrs Mc wrote: »

The Fudge ..... didn't realise things were that bad ..... if you see yourself reaching for the coffee cream Roses you'll know you've hit rock bottom.

Great to see you back to yourself again fighting the good fight

I'll take those coffee ones

Younganne

good to see you back TBL, get the calf fully better before pushing on again or it will come back at you again!!

Younganne

kit3 wrote: »

So, at the risk of starting a war in tbl's absence, what is defined as a 'young wan' then ?? :pac:

I'm a "Young" wan!!:D

kit3

Younganne wrote: »

I'm a "Young" wan!!:D

Me too (in my head at any rate

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ThebitterLemon

New York is one mental city, it's like London on steroids! Throngs of frantic people scuttling about 24/7, I couldn't live there as it too frantic and it left me frazzled after a few days.

I landed on Monday and was staying in a decent hotel on Broadway beside Times Square. After a short meeting I hit the hotel gym that was on the 23rd floor and overlooked part of Times Square and did some easy miles.

Grabbed a burger and bacon, cheese and mayo fries in the "Shake Shack" and I doubt the earlier run burnt off 10% of the calories of this "meal".

Is it any wonder that most Americans are the size of Yaks, had breakfast in the hotel the next morning and everything was HUGE, the strawberries were the size of pears and my colleagues omelette must have contained half a dozen eggs, and the chef needed a yoke like a shovel to take it of the pan!

I ordered poached eggs on toast, "white or brown Sir", "brown" says I. "Wholewheat, whole meal", whole grain or soda?". "Jazus, whole meal" I replied taking a punt. "Batch cut or regular cut", I gave her the "you taking the piss look" but she never blinked, pen at the ready. "Regular please" "Gluten (and something else that I can't remember) free". "Have ya any McCambridges" says I laughing. Nothing. Facial expression didn't change, pen hovered. "Eh no thanks" She pirouetted her 20 stone frame with an "enjoy your breakfast" over her shoulder. Christ NY had me wrecked and it wasn't even 7am!!!

I'd the buffet breakfast the next day!!!

Got back to Ireland in Thursday and headed over toward Oranmore and Renvyle park to get some peace and quiet and headspace with a couple of miles thrown in to get back to some semblance of normality.

Monday: 3 miles treadmill jog/walk
Tuesday: 3.5 miles treadmill mainly slow jog
Wednesday: nothing (eating)
Thursday: 6.5 miles easy run with stops to stretch
Friday: 4 miles jog/walk
Saturday: 6 miles very easy jog
Sunday: 8 miles easy with stops to stretch

At least I'm doing something but it's a bit frustrating that after deep tissue massage most of the stiffness goes but then after a run it comes back and I've some knots the size of marbles. I can run a bit further now without the tightness starting but it's annoying that we still don't exactly know what's causing it.

Thanks Itziger I got my Pisa entry deferred till next year!

TbL

Singer

Great to see you back. Have to admit to being quite partial to Shake Shack myself, I hope they never get over here!

Annie get your Run

Hmmm, would you take a proper running break? No running between now and NYE... just relax, do a bit of swimming and maybe some yoga.... I can feel your eyes rolling from here!. I know you had some time off after San Seb but this would be a deliberate mental and physical break from it all.

Plus, I hope you brought home a NY starbucks mug for aquinn :pac:

tang1

Annie get your Run wrote: »

Hmmm, would you take a proper running break? No running between now and NYE... just relax, do a bit of swimming and maybe some *yoga*.... I can feel your eyes rolling from here!. I know you had some time off after San Seb but this would be a deliberate mental and physical break from it all.

Plus, I hope you brought home a NY starbucks mug for aquinn :pac:

Jaysis I'd pay to see that!!!!!

ThebitterLemon

Annie get your Run wrote: »

Hmmm, would you take a proper running break? No running between now and NYE... just relax, do a bit of swimming and maybe some yoga.... I can feel your eyes rolling from here!. I know you had some time off after San Seb but this would be a deliberate mental and physical break from it all.

Plus, I hope you brought home a NY starbucks mug for aquinn :pac:

Swimming, Yoga are you trying to send me to a home for the bewildered.

Jazus you'll be suggesting cycling next

TbL

Annie get your Run

ThebitterLemon wrote: »

Swimming, Yoga are you trying to send me to a home for the bewildered.

Jazus you'll be suggesting cycling next

TbL

in all seriousnous, cycling has brought my running on leaps and bounds, I kid you not....

tang1

Annie get your Run wrote: »

in all seriousnous, cycling has brought my running on leaps and bounds, I kid you not....

Yeah, your only a slip of a thing though. No way those modern day carbon frame bikes could stand up to the pressure TbL would put on it if he sat on one. Don't think you can get tungsten framed bikes!!!

Annie get your Run

tang1 wrote: »

Yeah, your only a slip of a thing though. No way those modern day carbon frame bikes could stand up to the pressure TbL would put on it if he sat on one. Don't think you can get tungsten framed bikes!!!

:eek::eek::eek: is that an ACTUAL COMPLITMENT??!!!! noooooooo, it must be Christmas

Neady83

ThebitterLemon wrote: »

Grabbed a burger and bacon, cheese and mayo fries in the "Shake Shack" and I doubt the earlier run burnt off 10% of the calories of this "meal".

You mean you didn't go to Bubba Gump for Shrimp Forest?

Itziger

Lemony, minor hijack here.

Did the Pisa run after 3 difficult months. Probably would have been ok if I'd stuck to my 5 min/km plan. IF

Went off a bit faster than that pace and fatally hooked up with a Spanish bloke at about km5. (You'll be most pleased to hear that he'd gone sub 3 in San Seb!!). So we chatted away and jogged on without a glance at the watch. I really, really should have slowed down and told him to trot on. But I didn't until the training Gods spotted me at km32 and said, 'Hey, look who it is. That Cork fella who thinks he can show up and do a nice easy marathon after a longest LSR of 22k. Hahaha, said the Gods, 'We were going to allow you get away with the 3.30 plan, but now that you've broken the laws.....'

So off came the wheels, the will to live and run at the same time, wheels. And I crawled, walked home. The Spanish lad came in at 3.17/18 or so and I came home in a few seconds under 3.25. There was a German gal I was 'running' with at the 37k mark who beat me by about 5 minutes!!!

So, this is a long way of saying, you made an excellent decision not to show up. Might see you there next year Best of luck with rec.

ThebitterLemon

Still a bit mentally and physically wrecked, I don't think I've checked into another training log in over a month, I've been hiding in the darts forum and thinking it'd be easier and more enjoyable to get into competitive darts "shape"

Still haven't found what caused my calf to go so like a drowning man grabbing out at anything to keep him afloat, I decided to see a Strength & Conditioning coach who was recommended to me. On the last training cycle I was carrying a bag of niggles and every day seemed to see a different one pop out to say hello. I managed to keep the 50 year old show on the road (with a lot of massage) but I never got to the bottom of the issues.

S&C coach said my flexibility & mobility was piss poor, my strength was piss poor, my diet was piss poor and my glutes were weaker than Donald Trumps grasp on reality! If I wanted to be taken down a peg or two I could have saved myself a few quid and had a chat with Mrs TbL

Anyway I'm going to give it a go and really try and stick with it (my problem is usually when I get a bit stronger I drop everything except the running). He's given me a routine than I can do in 20-30 mins with the need for any weights or machines, so handy when travelling. Let's hope it doesn't go the way of the yoga!

Not a great week last week, but I've a few days off this week so I hope I can get back on track.

Ran my longest run in 5 weeks yesterday and brought the family to a local 5k today.

I'd planned to try and do 3 miles at former MP if the calf didn't calve. My daughter was talking to some local lads at the start so I was keeping a close eye on proceedings. She came over to me just before the start and said that DJ (one of the local lads was slagging her/me). "What did he say"? "He said you and me would need a taxi to bring us down from the hill" (the route was an out and back route all uphill on the out section)

DJ is a couple of years ahead of her in school and is on the school xc team. I explained that it was only a bit of slagging and not to take any notice. "Ok darling", "OK" she said, "but Dad, will you kick his ass!"

"Now pet, it's only a fun run and Dads been injured". "Alright Dad, I was only joking"

Well fcuk this says I too myself, what am I gonna do now!

Start was a bit of a mess and I got caught behind a gaggle of Christmas hyper kids and it was tough going up the hill. At the half way turn the spotty 14 year old was 100-150 ahead of me. I caught him with a km to go and I think he burst a pimple trying to stay with me

. I looked over at him as I passed and said, "I'll call Big O cabs to bring you home a Mhac".

Happy with the effort but especially happy to be able to tell my daughter I'd put a 14 year old spotty boy to the sword

6.45, 6.26 & 6.03.

Monday: 4 miles
Tuesday: 7 miles easy
Wednesday: 12 miles steady
Thursday: eating
Friday: 3 miles easy
Saturday: 2 miles easy
Sunday: lots of eating
Monday: 16.5 miles med long run
Tuesday: am: 3 miles tempo pm: 4 miles recovery.

TbL

Annie get your Run

Whoop! score one to junior TBL (courtesy of dad) and zero to spotty faced smart arse

Cheeky little upstart! Kids were never like that in my day :pac:

You got in a 16.5 mile long run this week so things must be on the up. You should post your S & C session too though to keep you honest etc.

Happy Christmas, Happy New Year and here's to a glorious 2017 for all of us

snailsong

Love the story. When they make 'Bogger, The Movie' this will be a key scene. I picture Anthony Hopkins in the lead role.

Annie get your Run

snailsong wrote: »

Love the story. When they make 'Bogger, The Movie' this will be a key scene. I picture Anthony Hopkins in the lead role.

Whatever you do TBL, don't google 'how hold is Anthony Hopkins' :eek::D