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Random Wrasslin' thoughts.....

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So this is a thread for your musings which do not deserve an entire thread of its own.

For example

I just watched Card Subject To Change. Horrific to think that since its been made the following has happened -

Kamala has become an amputee

Sensational Sherrie, Paul Bearer and Trent Acid are dead

Had Kevin Sullivan and Nancy stayed together one of Wrestlings darkest moments would be completely different or never would have happened.

Lacey Von Erich almost became a diva. She is also crazy hot. Pure nom.

I also mused that even while Sherri was a dispicable heel while she was on tv she may well have been my first celeb crush.

All this in one lazy evening.

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Ben Gadot

Heath Slater deserves a further push. The last Talking Smack episode illustrates how good he is.

ShagNastii

I think it could be one of those angles that there was not real plan for long term and Vince was chopping and changing ideas up until the day of. TBH it could have went to either of the four as they were all white hot at the time.

Jericho did mention on his podcast that he only found out he was to become undisputed champ a few hours before the match.

leggo

Yeah the decision was made with Mania in mind, remember it was Jericho who was involved in the match where he tore his quad (The iconic image is him doing the walls to him on the announce table). Plus Jericho was ****hot at the time and was the only one of the four who hadn't really got a run at the top, so he was fresh. Plus having Rock vs Austin in their rematch (which was expected) at Vengeance was too predictable and it was too big a match to do with zero build.

I'd say if they could book that entire post-Invasion to Mania period all over again they'd do it differently, but you can't criticise with 20/20 hindsight you have to judge the cards as they were then.

Ben Gadot

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Watching vengeance 2001 on the network and out of the four lads involved Jericho was the best guy of the four ? To quote the late great gorilla monsoon "highly unlikely"

I mean why book Jericho as the first ever undisputed worlds wrestling champion when you have the symbol of the NWA/WCW in the big gold belt and the then WWF world title on the line ? I mean rock, Austin, angle were clearly better choices than Jericho IMO.

I mean they go over the history of the two belts involved with a lovely video package selling the history of the titles.

But again chris Jericho ? Bad decision.

At that time Jericho was probably best placed to carry the title as the type of heel they wanted.

Also, of all 4, Jericho was the easiest one to feed to Trips on his triumphant return.

Itssoeasy

Watching vengeance 2001 on the network and out of the four lads involved Jericho was the best guy of the four ? To quote the late great gorilla monsoon "highly unlikely"

I mean why book Jericho as the first ever undisputed worlds wrestling champion when you have the symbol of the NWA/WCW in the big gold belt and the then WWF world title on the line ? I mean rock, Austin, angle were clearly better choices than Jericho IMO.

I mean they go over the history of the two belts involved with a lovely video package selling the history of the titles.

But again chris Jericho ? Bad decision.

Blue_Dabadee

The Miz has benefited a lot from the draft since he has been on a roll for the past couple of months. I do see him becoming WWE champion again at some stage next year, if they keep The Miz and WWE Championship on Smackdown.

Also, he has brought back prestige back to IC championship which is something the likes of Dean Ambrose could never do.

LeeJM

Alot of guys would also take aspirin before the match to thin their blood so it would look even more impressive when they did blade. As for the Original ECW guys just look at how many are now dead because of the style of wrestling and their lifestyles outside the ring.

ERG89

beakerjoe wrote: »

I may be wrong and open to correct from any doctors on here (Im looking at you Jay), but only the heavy bleeders (Matt Hardy v Edge from SS05 for example or Eddie v JBL from GAB04 ) would have been in danger of a blood transfusion.

As far as I remember from giving blood, the body can lose a good bit and be fine once its patched up properly as your blood will eventually build back up over the 24 hours with a decent amount of rest as it regenerates itself.

Oh yeah I just said they avoid hitting arteries but mentioned Eddie did accidentally. I think Taker did as well vs Brock in their first HIAC match.
I doubt they do transfusions too often only when required

beakerjoe

I may be wrong and open to correct from any doctors on here (Im looking at you Jay), but only the heavy bleeders (Matt Hardy v Edge from SS05 for example or Eddie v JBL from GAB04 ) would have been in danger of a blood transfusion.

As far as I remember from giving blood, the body can lose a good bit and be fine once its patched up properly as your blood will eventually build back up over the 24 hours with a decent amount of rest as it regenerates itself.

ERG89

PTH2009 wrote: »

very odd question

in the past when the guys bleed (bladed) was it there real blood and did wwe pay for blood injections for the guys straight after the match ???

Vince Mcmahon must of bleed gallons whenever he was in a match. Its very unhealthy to lose that amount of blood each night. The Guys in the old ECW must be feeling some serious impacts now

Cruel to say but look how many from ECW who had health/drug issues and or are dead now. Look at Mike Awesome vs Tanaka at ONS where they blast each other with full force hard as possible chair shots.
They tried not to bleed excessively as they avoid knicking veins/arteries but Vince in particular was bad, I remember it spurting out of his head once like a faucet after he got hit by a chair. By Stephanie iirc :pac:
And the buried alive match with Taker where he bladed after one punch or headering the steel cage vs Stone Cold
I think Eddie cut a artery vs JBL which looked frightening, he had to get a blood transfusion. Despite that he still felt weak for some time afterwards.

PTH2009 wrote: »

cant tell the difference between Rich Swan and Cedric Alexander lol

One of them dances ffs :rolleyes:

[Deleted User]

When they bladed, they bladed and bled. There was no blood injection, whatever that is. The only time they'd use blood packets would be for internal bleeding storylines where they'd 'bleed' from the mouth.

PTH2009

very odd question

in the past when the guys bleed (bladed) was it there real blood and did wwe pay for blood injections for the guys straight after the match ???

Vince Mcmahon must of bleed gallons whenever he was in a match. Its very unhealthy to lose that amount of blood each night. The Guys in the old ECW must be feeling some serious impacts now

CastorTroy

For the age of Noam Dar, he seems to have the Liam Gallagher mannerisms down

J. Marston

Yeah but they're both b....ald on the sides of their heads.

[Deleted User]

They're hardly identical!

LeeJM

PTH2009 wrote: »

cant tell the difference between Rich Swan and Cedric Alexander lol

F*cking hell!

PTH2009

cant tell the difference between Rich Swan and Cedric Alexander lol

Noam Dar has a head for hitting

Chain Smoker

Stephanie deluding herself into thinking she'll be the first woman president right now

Nerdkiller1991

I've said it before and I'll say it again...PAY TO PLAY!

Lithium93_

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Sound. I knew he had an accident and it sounded fairly big.

Aye, from his wikipedia page about the accident.

On May 5, 2011, Helms and his girlfriend were involved in a motorbike accident in North Carolina, for which Helms was charged with driving under the influence.Helms suffered a broken leg, ankle, jaw, and nose during the accident, as well as sustaining other fractures and receiving over 200 stitches, while his girlfriend sustained a broken neck. As a result of the accident, Helms' foot had to be reconstructed with four plates and 22 screws.

Itssoeasy

Lithium93_ wrote: »

He's still wrestling in TNA, as for the accident, that was 5 years ago.

Sound. I knew he had an accident and it sounded fairly big.

Lithium93_

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Wasn't he in a bad accident a few years ago ? I don't know if he is still wrestling.

He's still wrestling in TNA, as for the accident, that was 5 years ago.

Itssoeasy

An File wrote: »

What is Hurricane Helms doing these days? I reckon he'd get a decent pop for a return.

Wasn't he in a bad accident a few years ago ? I don't know if he is still wrestling.

Insect Overlord

What is Hurricane Helms doing these days? I reckon he'd get a decent pop for a return.

LeeJM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Yeah to be honest I couldn't tell you what Gail's character was meant to be. I think she had a kind of bayley thing going with her with hardcore and crash and them seem to have covered her up. Also molly holly hugely underrated in ring wise.

Molly was the glue in that divison for a long time.

Random thought, after WM id love to see the Universal Champion have a mini tv feud with a midcarder similar to The Hurricane vs Rock or the Stone Cold vs Spike Dudley feuds

Itssoeasy

LeeJM wrote: »

Gail Kim was always good in ring just incredibly bland as a character in WWE. And from what I remember Molly was all natural. She was a proper stunner when in WCW in 99 and looked pretty much the same when debuted as Molly Holly the geeky cousin of Hardcore and Crash

Yeah to be honest I couldn't tell you what Gail's character was meant to be. I think she had a kind of bayley thing going with her with hardcore and crash and them seem to have covered her up. Also molly holly hugely underrated in ring wise.

LeeJM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Actually looking at the some of the trish and lita collection(thank god lita seems better on the mic now) and trish just looks unreal and it's the two ladies against Gail Kim and molly holly.

So random thought is you'd forget how good Gail Kim was in the ring. It all looked good. Also did molly get upgrades so to speak or was it not noticeable when she was mighty mollly ?

Gail Kim was always good in ring just incredibly bland as a character in WWE. And from what I remember Molly was all natural. She was a proper stunner when in WCW in 99 and looked pretty much the same when debuted as Molly Holly the geeky cousin of Hardcore and Crash

Itssoeasy

Actually looking at the some of the trish and lita collection(thank god lita seems better on the mic now) and trish just looks unreal and it's the two ladies against Gail Kim and molly holly.

So random thought is you'd forget how good Gail Kim was in the ring. It all looked good. Also did molly get upgrades so to speak or was it not noticeable when she was mighty mollly ?

Itssoeasy

Angron wrote: »

Hakushi?

That's the lad. Jesus I thought he was brilliant with the writing all over him and he looked like he'd belt the head off ya. Mad lad altogether.

Angron

Hakushi?