I did a little experiment all day, since I'm home for the holiday and there's nothing to do. Also I have no life. I made three fake tinder profiles. One was with a perfectly average looking guy, one an underwear model, and one ugly looking guy Each of them had the exact same tagline "I don't message first, so send me a cheesy pick up line." and they had one photo each. Each set the same age limits, 18-25, and each had a 20 mile radius. I swiped everyone right and did so until I ran out of possible profiles for each guy. The results for the underwear model were just as anyone would have suspected. Within the 10 hour timeframe that I did my experiment, this profile got 345 matches and 94 of those sent a message first (only 3 of which actually called me out because they knew who the model was) (EDIT: to give you some perspective, I've had a personal tinder profile for 10 months now and I have around 250. 345 in 10 hours is ridiculous) What shocked me the most how small the difference was between the average and ugly profiles. The average guy got 9 matches and 2 first messages and the ugly guy got 3 matches and 2 messages (one from a bot). I don't really have a conclusion to my experiment other than strive to look like an underwear model >_> (I wish). I guess you're either in the top 10% or you're invisible. It was a little depressing, yet unsurprising. Online dating is pretty hard if you're just average. I encourage all of the guys out there to start hitting the gym and groom yourself damn well if you want to have a shot at some crazy ridiculous results.
BabyE wrote: » From Reddit: Startling, everyone would expect the underwear model to clean up, but the fact that there wasn't a large gap between the ugly and average guy is chilling.
Kal El wrote: » I dont think hes wrong using psychology, I think its not being applied correctly. As for experiments, I dont see a problem with that at all. No harm trying something out
Cornelius Crow wrote: » Why bother? What on earth is the point?!
Kal El wrote: » The ugly guy has the highest batting figure :pac: If you did the same test with three ladies, do you think it would be the same?
BabyE wrote: » Myself and Nick Bateman go into a club, I wonder whose coming out with the girls :rolleyes: Subjectivity indeed. How can anyone tout this rubbish? A girl might debate over whether she finds Zac Efron or Rob Kearney(I don't see it with him but who am I?) hotter, at that level subjectivity comes into it.
Dr Crayfish wrote: I had to google Nick Bateman.
dottie_lottie wrote: » Same, he's a bit plastic looking isn't he? I can see why people would think he's attractive, but he wouldn't be my cup of tea at all
Dr Crayfish wrote: That level of perfectness is freakish. I'd much rather look like myself!
dottie_lottie wrote: » the facial hair is definitely sprayed on
BabyE wrote: » Regardless, he certainty isn't 'forever alone' and I am sure he is used to a lifetime of validation and approval.
BabyE wrote: » a bonifide slayer in equal measure.
bucketybuck wrote: » There are some really ****ed up attitudes towards other people in this thread. Cop yourselves on lads, perhaps if you dropped the chips from your shoulders and stopped assigning numbers to women you might get somewhere.And by the way, most men go to the gym because fit and healthy is a good thing in and of itself, not because its step one on the path to getting laid.
Dr Crayfish wrote: » Responding to girls on internet dating medium that you wouldn't have much interest in. I would think they're thinking, well she's not up to scratch but I'd still bang her if needs be. Harsh but true I'm afraid!
Eric Cartman wrote: » I don't really believe in most of what the above user is saying , and their 'scientific' tests. But considering the nature of lads , firstly the number of matches for all would be higher, and you'd find the average and hot girl close then a falloff to the ugly one , where the falloff is with the average guy when its women matching. this level of depreciating standards for the ride is very clear. Even outside of tinder.(Im really not a fan of a vulgar 1 to 10 scale, but sure we'll use it for this) Almost any lad whether he's a 3, 5 or 9 will go to a club and try and pull just above his station, failing that and around the 1am mark when the crowd is dwindling he will drop standards to go home with almost anything , you see 5's pull 1's out the door all the time. He will only declare no chance when literally every woman is gone / has rebuffed him . However women will go out , whether they are a 3, 5, or 9 and try and pull as high up the queue as they can . Most will (as men) drop standards as the night goes on, but for the vast majority they won't even consider anyone below a 6 , luckily due to our friend alcohol , a lad who might be a 4 in real life will pass for a 6 in a womans boozed up vision , but unless you can somehow convince her that you are even a slight bit above average for that club/pub , no matter how drunk she gets, the 3s, 2s, 1s of this world aren't getting anywhere. A woman will declare defeat and proclaim 'theres no men here' only when the above average ones have all gone elsewhere/gotten too pissed/ rebuffed her. Men tend towards 0 over time + drink , women tend towards 5.1 (even if they themselves are far below that)
BabyE wrote: » :D:D:D:D:D Cheers bud, I was in need of a laugh.
beks101 wrote: » You see this is where you probably need a rest from tinder. When women are mathematical equations with numbers skewed against you and you're setting up fake profiles to prove a point to yourself. In the real world, most people are average. Not all abs and chiselled jaws and "superior genes" with the less worthy sitting on the sidelines bemoaning their lack of luck and looking on as the "top 10%" get all the women. Most people could be taller, or better looking, or are a little bit fat, or have a growing bald patch or could do with getting down the gym more or have bad teeth etc etc etc. And most people marry or settle in long-term relationships. When I was online dating, I clicked right passed the overly good-looking, overly groomed men with the ripped abs because my experience with them was usually negative. They wanted a shag, to completely generalise. Some were lovely fellas too mind, but I wouldn't respond to them simply because they were goodlooking. I needed more to go on. Increasingly as I got older, banter and having your sh1t together mattered far more than a piece of eye candy. And I increasingly discovered that what I found "attractive" on-screen usually did not translate in real life, so at least if you could have the craic with them online there was a better chance of a fun date, even if the attraction wasn't there. If tinder is that much of a soul-destroying experience for you, surely logging off and finding other avenues is a better option like? Find somewhere where you can play to your strengths, if you're not some big dirty ride who steals all the wimmenz on tinder? If you're short, some women won't be into that. Find the ones that are. There's a lot of people who will say things on paper which won't hold much water in the real world, when things like personality and chemistry come into play. If you'd asked me what my "type" was a few years ago, I'd probably have described someone who looks nothing like my OH. But we met and that was that. That sort of flexibility doesn't exist on tinder to a fraction of the percentage it does in real life - and if you're going to play the game, you'll have to play by those shallow rules, because they aren't going to change just because you feel aggrieved by the women who rule you out because of your lack of height.
Surreptitious wrote: » Two people just asked me for sex straight away to meet now in the last five minutes. Whoever thinks Tinder isn't a hookup site is wrong.
mzungu wrote: » There is a lot more to life than getting laid, going by the last few pages in this thread one or two posters seem to have an unhealthy obsession with the opposite sex. I am going to wager that it is this unhealthy attitude that prevents them from forming any kind of meaningful relationship.
meeeeh wrote: » Good god, I could be completely unfair to him but he looks like someone who channels all his three brain cells into improving his looks. I find it insulting that someone could think I would be attracted to him.
So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.
BabyE wrote: » Correction, most people DID settle down in relationships/marriage. Those days are gone slowly but surely drifting away, we are in the midst of a paradigm shifting epoch and a lot of men are going to be left behind and I guarantee this will create problems that nobody is willing to talk about. First you take someones job away, now you take the whole reason for his existence away i.e finding a girl, settling down, passing on his genes, this does not augur well one little bit. We won't see the effects of this narcissistic promiscuous culture that has dominated in the past decade but by god when we do. I'm sorry, but as you say, you had your experience with the hot guys and you grew weary. As Taylor Swift sang 'Players gonna play, play, play'. Interesting that you had to be broken by these hot guys in order to see past the looks of your subsequent partner. Well maybe some guys are not happy to play second fiddle and scrap on the leftovers after they've between chewed and spat out. Re my height, that is just a coping mechanism. if I had a better face it wouldn't matter. Girls can't tell height off Tinder, if anything it's clubs that are a death knell for short men(less than 5'11'')
BabyE wrote: » LMAO. This is the life of (what women consider) good looking men on Tinder. Girls are looking for sex and they are getting it when and how they want. You are either in the game or your out! One thing is for sure if you fall off there will be nobody to pick you up and bring you along.
Eric Cartman wrote: » I think the poster has gone a bit far , however there are definitely a sizeable chunk of people who only pick up the aul gym routine to make themselves more attractive to the opposite sex. I know tonnes of people who would gladly swap the gym for endless takeaways and sitting around like a sloth all their lives if they didn't think it would harm their partner prospects.