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Italy : ma che cazzo hai fatto ?

The Rape of Lucretia

Italy votes against economic reform. Follows the Brexit/Trump tendency for populist protest voting - whether it is good for them or not. Italians have spurned a splendid opportunity, by a truly reforming prime minister, to overhaul a non fit for purpose political structure.
And plunge Italy, and Europe, into further turmoil.
Serious problems ahead now for Italy. Bailouts, rescue packages, bankrupt banks.
Talk about turkeys voting for Christmas. Even the turkeys wouldnt have been this stupid.

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The flying mouse

Will our chippers stay open ?

[Deleted User]

The world is changing, the peasants are revolting and the elites look on worryingly.

hannible the cannible

Yes that's the spirit ,keep telling the people how fcuking stupid they are , it's worked a treat so far

Iwasfrozen

hannible the cannible wrote: »

Yes that's the spirit ,keep telling the people how fcuking stupid they are , it's worked a treat so far

If the cap fits...

hannible the cannible

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

If the cap fits...

A one size fits all kind of cap

The Rape of Lucretia

hannible the cannible wrote: »

Yes that's the spirit ,keep telling the people how fcuking stupid they are , it's worked a treat so far

The truth can no longer be sugar coated, and the reality must be faced. It is time for them to face up to the mistakes that they are making with such madcap voting. They have to learn that this petulant voting incompetence, where, given a say in democracy, and a vote in a referendum, they then dont in fact vote on the issue being put to them, but decide they will protest vote, fall to the lies of ignorant crowd pleasers, or, 'send a message' to the government.
If you cannot vote responsibly, you do not deserve to have a vote, or deserve the troubles such self indulgent voting will bring.
Time to call a spade a spade on this nonsense. It may be unpleasant, but in the longer term, its for their own good.

deco nate

Yea, let's have dictatorships all round. sure it's the only way to go....

The Wolverine

hannible the cannible wrote: »

Yes that's the spirit ,keep telling the people how fcuking stupid they are , it's worked a treat so far

No please let them keep doing it, I want to see what the faces of the sneering elite look like compared to the sneering French aristocrats when the normal man affected by their actions turned on 'em

Annasopra

At least Austria saw sense

hannible the cannible

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

The truth can no longer be sugar coated, and the reality must be faced. It is time for them to face up to the mistakes that they are making with such madcap voting. They have to learn that this petulant voting incompetence, where, given a say in democracy, and a vote in a referendum, they then dont in fact vote on the issue being put to them, but decide they will protest vote, fall to the lies of ignorant crowd pleasers, or, 'send a message' to the government.
If you cannot vote responsibly, you do not deserve to have a vote, or deserve the troubles such self indulgent voting will bring.
Time to call a spade a spade on this nonsense. It may be unpleasant, but in the longer term, its for their own good.

Wow , so much dictatorship qualities in one post

The Wolverine

Quick find a few Italian elites to say it was an advisory referendum only and not binding :pac:

Yourself isit

hannible the cannible wrote: »

Yes that's the spirit ,keep telling the people how fcuking stupid they are , it's worked a treat so far

It's been a mistake allowing proletarians to vote tbh

[Deleted User]

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

The truth can no longer be sugar coated, and the reality must be faced. It is time for them to face up to the mistakes that they are making with such madcap voting. They have to learn that this petulant voting incompetence, where, given a say in democracy, and a vote in a referendum, they then dont in fact vote on the issue being put to them, but decide they will protest vote, fall to the lies of ignorant crowd pleasers, or, 'send a message' to the government.
If you cannot vote responsibly, you do not deserve to have a vote, or deserve the troubles such self indulgent voting will bring.
Time to call a spade a spade on this nonsense. It may be unpleasant, but in the longer term, its for their own good.

Said the elite...

RobertKK

What is wrong with a dictatorship?

Sure our own Michael D was giving a glowing praise of Fidel Castro last week...

I think he is deluded.

Yourself isit

Time to dissolve the people and elect another.

AllGunsBlazing

This only becomes a potential flashpoint if Renzi does what he claimed he would do, if defeated, and resigns. I suspect there'll be a lot of pressure from Brussels and Berlin for him to suck it up and tough it out for at least a few months.

[Deleted User]

AllGunsBlazing wrote: »

This only becomes a potential flashpoint if Renzai does what he claimed he would do, if defeated, and resigns. I suspect there'll be a lot of pressure from Brussels and Berlin for him to suck it up and tough it out for at least a few months.

Churchill once said, "if you're going through hell, keep going!"

The Wolverine

AllGunsBlazing wrote: »

This only becomes a potential flashpoint if Renzai does what he claimed he would do, if defeated, and resigns. I suspect there'll be a lot of pressure from Brussels and Berlin for him to suck it up and tough it out for at least a few months.

I'd be surprised if he does, you usually have a hard time pulling a pigs snout out of the trough when there's still something in it for them

RobertKK

Matteo Renzi will be told, it is close to Christmas, we wants our holidays, hold on...

The Rape of Lucretia

Yourself isit wrote: »

It's been a mistake allowing proletarians to vote tbh

Its well intentioned, but the chickens are coming home to roost now alright.
Things will get worse before people realise the error of their ways and change.
It would seem we are overoptimistic about the voting capabilities of the common man. As a principal though, I wouldnt give up on it just yet. Education, communication, public information campaigns on the responsibilities of suffrage, and so on, could help the situation. Something is urgently needed.

meeeeh

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

The truth can no longer be sugar coated, and the reality must be faced. It is time for them to face up to the mistakes that they are making with such madcap voting. They have to learn that this petulant voting incompetence, where, given a say in democracy, and a vote in a referendum, they then dont in fact vote on the issue being put to them, but decide they will protest vote, fall to the lies of ignorant crowd pleasers, or, 'send a message' to the government.
If you cannot vote responsibly, you do not deserve to have a vote, or deserve the troubles such self indulgent voting will bring.
Time to call a spade a spade on this nonsense. It may be unpleasant, but in the longer term, its for their own good.

The vote was a about senate reform (sounds familiar?). Nobody forced Renzzi to make it about himself. Besides considering how Italy had certain Benito in power for quite a while and how it is country of different regions it is understanding that they are also reluctant to give more power to centralized government. Votes about very technical but significant changes of political system are hard to get through anywhere even if the old system is not working.

Donal55

Its like Everton's equaliser.
Austria 1 Italy 1.

Yourself isit

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Its well intentioned, but the chickens are coming home to roost now alright.
Things will get worse before people realise the error of their ways and change.
It would seem we are overoptimistic about the voting capabilities of the common man.

There will be a golf club led revolution to end the common man's tyranny. I have no doubts of its success.

emo72

When you make it so bad, that turkeys are delighted to vote for Christmas, then things are really bad.

A Little Pony

The EU is doomed. I think the EU should slowly wind it down slowly and allow these countries to be independent sovreign nations once again. The people will take it either democratically via elections or by the bullet.

Donal55

Merkel going next year will be the icing on the cake.

ceadaoin.

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

It would seem we are overoptimistic about the voting capabilities of the common man. As a principal though, I wouldnt give up on it just yet. Education, communication, public information campaigns on the responsibilities of suffrage, and so on, could help the situation. Something is urgently needed.

Maybe reeducation camps would do the trick?

twill

It seems to me that opinion was divided evenly among political parties, trade unions and media, with a mixture of right and left on both platforms. The referendum looks like a mass of poorly planned and thought out proposals, and the attempt to centralise power, while very much along approved EU lines, would rightly have worried many.

meeeeh

twill wrote: »

It seems to me that opinion was divided evenly among political parties, trade unions and media, with a mixture of right and left on both platforms. The referendum looks like a mass of poorly planned and thought out proposals, and the attempt to centralise power, while very much along approved EU lines, would rightly have worried many.

Oh sush with sensible comments. It was the vote on end of EU and a wet dream of every Farage cheer leader coming through.

KingBrian2

Never hold a referendum if you don't know the result.