Wheeliebin30 wrote: » Well how does that explain him gassing in the first round against nate with no wrestling involved?
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darced wrote: » Wrestling is far tougher fitness wise than boxing in my opinion. In mma you can be gassed in one big dynamic exchange no matter how good a shape you are in. The sports require two different types of fitness, the fittest boxer would gas in seconds in a grappling match.
weldoninhio wrote: » I've stated TWICE now that in no way, shape or form could UFC make ANYONE fight if they didn't want to. Is that clear enough?? If a fighter is no longer mentally in the game then he will be medically unable to compete. Same as if he broke his neck etc, I'd imagine that's what insurance is for. It's completely different to a fighter deciding he just can't be bothered because he was stripped of a belt he refused to defend, which is the hypothetical situation we are discussing.
Wheeliebin30 wrote: » Very good.
Mean Laqueefa wrote: »
Wheeliebin30 wrote: » No I don't. I just think you need to be in better shape for a professional boxing match
Wheeliebin30 wrote: » No I don't. I just think you need to be in better shape for a professional boxing match.
mdwexford wrote: » Eh, no it isn't. You make it sound like mma fighters are out of shape amateur lads.
Retirement Clause wrote: "If at any time during the Term, Fighter decides to retire from mixed martial arts or other professional fighting competition, then ZUFFA may, at its election, (i) suspend the Term for the period of such retirement;
Subcomandante Marcos wrote: » Floyd has fought harder hitters with much better hands than Conor. The half decent amateur boxer from Crumlin hasn't a hope in hell. Conor wouldn't have a hope in hell against any top 10 amateur in his weight class in Ireland in a boxing match, never mind the best boxer of the last 20 odd years and a man in the running for the greatest of all time argument.
Wheeliebin30 wrote: » It's a total different fitness level in boxing and he wouldn't have a chance against most amateur boxers in Ireland.
paulieeye wrote: » The idea that an organisation can force you into a physically harmful and potentially life ending activity under the thread of being sued is simply laughable. And that is what it is, "going after the money" as is being said is just another way of saying that. If, for example, a fighter is no longer mentally in the game (and thereby putting himself at huge risk), he has every right to retire without the thread of being sued. Far as I know fighters are paid on a fight by fight basis. Granted some contracts are front loaded but I'm sure this is negotiated by the fighter and allowed by the UFC as a perk of the contract with them knowing that retirement is an option. I am basing this of every fighter who has retired in the UFC with fights left on their contracts. If there is other info to base any other view point on, I would love to hear it.
Icelandicseige wrote: » I think people are underestimating Mcgregors chances against Floyd IMO. McGregor knocked Nate Diaz 3 times at welterweight. I know gloves will be bigger if the fight ever did happen but mcgregor has super pricision and technique aiming for the chin and although he will get hit a lot more by floyd I think he can handle what he throws. Floyd is a points fighter. It will be a game of who's the better counter puncher. Anyway that's just my small unimportant opinion but I'd be picking McGregor for the win!!
weldoninhio wrote: » I literally stated about 5-10 posts up from this that the UFC couldn't force anyone to fight. I said they'd go after the money. To use an analogy, If you hired a painter to paint your house, and it had 8 rooms (fights). He said ok, I need money up front for the paint for all 8 rooms and a deposit for each room(signing on fee), he proceeds to paint 4 rooms (I.e. Has 4 fights) then doesn't turn up. You call him and he says he's retired. You'd be happy enough?? Or would you think he owed you money back or for the rooms to be painted. It's not rocket science lads.
weldoninhio wrote: » I don't have one. I guess the UFC uses Lionel Hutz to do up its contracts.
The Golden Miller wrote: » You're good. I'll know not to engage in such a stimulating battle of the minds with such an articulate individual in the future, a man who really gets to the bottom of ones points and who would never dare ignore the substance of a whole post. My bad mo chara
weldoninhio wrote: » To use an analogy, If you hired a painter to paint your house, and it had 8 rooms (fights). He said ok, I need money up front for the paint for all 8 rooms and a deposit for each room(signing on fee), he proceeds to paint 4 rooms (I.e. Has 4 fights) then doesn't turn up. You call him and he says he's retired. You'd be happy enough?? Or would you think he owed you money back or for the rooms to be painted. It's not rocket science lads.
Saipanne wrote: » That's isn't proof, it's an inference based on a spurious analogy. You do realise that? Provide a UFC contract or a source which references what happens when a UFC fighter retires*, or admit you are making inferences. It's really that simple. *Not a singer, not a footballer, not a painter, not another MMA organisation. A UFC fighter.
weldoninhio wrote: » So you are saying that he could have signed his new contract, taken the signing on fee and retired with free money???
