Depp wrote: » theres literally no precedent of the ufc suing retiring fighters out of the countless guys that have retired in contract...you're being beligerent and ridiculous pulling unrelated cases out of your hole and its getting sad
weldoninhio wrote: » He signed a contract for 8 fights. If he retires then he is breaking that contract. Do you understand what a contract is??
SteM wrote: » You are making **** up, we agree on something. Did the ufc go after gsp when he vacated the title with fights left on his contract? Wasn't worth it I suppose.
weldoninhio wrote: » You're right. A lad sitting at home watching the apprentice is just making up this (very reasonable and very logical) argument to cover the outlay on a long term contract is bluffing. The lawyers the UFC use probably aren't paid to work in the best interests of them. Ffs surely you'd expect something like this in any sportsperson/musician/writers contract.
weldoninhio wrote: » It's not a vendetta, anyone that signs a contract, especially if it has a large signing on fee and a bigger % cut based on the longevity of the contract and decides to give in midway through would be sued for breach. Whether it's McGregor, me, Aldo or fecking Bono. It's basic contract law. Do you think the UFC write the contracts on the back of a fag packet??
SteM wrote: » You don't know what his contact is out how it's structured. You don't know what signing fee he got or any conditions attached to it. Stop bluffing ffs.
weldoninhio wrote: » Any signing on fee or percentage for fights would be based on 8 fights. They could sue for 50% of the signing on fee and argue that he would have gotten a much lower fee per fight over a 4 fight deal and more than likely win. They obviously couldn't take him to court to make him fight, but they could get a good bit of cash back. Anyone who doesn't think so is clueless. I've dealt with contracts day on day for years in a previous role, UFC aren't in the business of giving money away, ask any of the fighters on its roster.
Depp wrote: » bringing up rita bloody ora...this is a new low :D:D did conor steal your bird or something your vendetta is depressing
Saipanne wrote: » Those were UFC contracts, yeah? Boiler plate standard contract?
SteM wrote: » Can't stop someone from retiring. His contract is with the ufc. The contract is if he fights mma it has to be with them for x amount of fights, it can't be with another promotion. The contract can't be he HAS to fight x amount of times. That would be slavery. Can't believe you're even arguing this tbh. Can't believe I'm arguing with you.
weldoninhio wrote: » Prove it? Roc Nation sued Rita Ora because she didn't deliver the agreed amount of albums that she'd signed up for. Barry Sanders was sued by the Detroit Lions for retiring mid contract.
Saipanne wrote: » You seem certain. Prove it.
weldoninhio wrote: » It's an binding agreement between 2 parties. UFC agreed to pay McGregor Xm per fight plus PPV over 8 fights. Retiring after 4 fights means that McGregor has reneged on his side of the deal. Other fighters may have retired without any hassle, but the numbers involved would be minuscule. No point in UFC taking them to court. You could guarantee they'll go after McGregor, they'd win millions back.
Saipanne wrote: » Yes, but you don't.
Saipanne wrote: » Sue him for what? You're not allowed to retire?
weldoninhio wrote: » He might retire a multi-millionaire but after UFC sued him for breach of contract would he be as rich?? They'd still be making money hand over fist. They'd have less bandwagonners, but pretty soon another superstar would emerge and they'd piggy back him. Football survived Pele retiring, Basketball survived Jordan retiring.
Effects wrote: » Who mentioned you saying anything about the beginning of a career? You inferred he should have negotiated before he signed his contract. I said he didn't really have any leverage at that point. Maybe you misunderstood me.
Outlaw Pete wrote: » Eh, nothing Skip said was relevant to my initial comment. I said that video was a bit of craic. It is. As for Mayweather - McGregor fight never happening? You're wrong. It will.
weldoninhio wrote: » Quote my post again and bold where I said at the beginning of your career.
weldoninhio wrote: » Neither do you. In business you generally negotiate before you sign a contract or when your current contract is almost up and you have leverage. Trying to negotiate mid-contract is a weak position.
