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I'm sick to death of being taxed to death !

Noddy Nangle

I got a pay rise last month of 2000 but after tax I end up getting a net 960. I also get a Christmas bonus from my employer of 1000 but I will only get 460 net often tax. As we live in the country we have two cars but both are pre 2008 so it costs me a 1000 in tax per year.

Yet I am entitled to absolutely nothing from our government. I have to pay 60 every time I want to see a doctor and queue up behind the genuine and not so genuine people who have medical cards. I watch as all those people who are on the dole yet still manage to have a 50" lcd tv and jet off on a big holiday every year. You wonder how they do it. I also watch as TDs claim expenses for travelling to work in the Dail yet I have try tax, insure, fuel, pay for and upkeep two cars that are essential for us to go to work but we can't claim expenses off our tax bill for it. Why ?

Why is it that I seem to work my boll*x off but yet I have nothing. The middle working class pay too much tax and being honest a political party needs to be formed to look after our needs and not the needs of the many wasters in this country. A Donald Trump like figure if you like ( maybe Michael O Leary). Imagine a country where if you work hard you get rewarded and live a decent lifestyle where you might even have a few quid in your pocket.

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One_Of_Shanks

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

If you're not happy just emigrate.

What?

So if someone is unhappy with the way things are run in their own country then your solution is they should move to another country?

Nevermind if they have family/friends/home here. Just hop on a plane eh?

Sorted! :rolleyes:

Wheeliebin30

One_Of_Shanks wrote: »

What?

So if someone is unhappy with the way things are run in their own country then your solution is they should move to another country?

Nevermind if they have family/friends/home here. Just hop on a plane eh?

Sorted! :rolleyes:

See 4 posts above:)

vicwatson

Few paying for the many, it's a sickening joke

One_Of_Shanks

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

See 4 posts above:)

Ha, my apologies! Hadn't spotted that post.
On the same page as you now though (see what I did there)

SCOOP 64

Maybe just take a diffferent look at it, just think of all the people you are helping,
like you would if you donate to a charity.

relax carry on

Show of hands, how many posters here actually know how much direct tax they are paying? That is how much PAYE and USC you are paying. Some add PRSI aswell to get their total direct contribution to the state each year. Dig out your P60 from last year and add up the deductions and figure out the percentage you are paying on your gross income. Looking at it on a weekly or monthly basis is misleading. Look at the 12 months of the tax year for your effective tax rate.

Cortina_MK_IV

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

If you're unhappy about how your taxes are spent then vote accordingly. If you're still unhappy, get yourself elected. If that doesn't work, emigrate.

Seems to crop up a lot. If all else fails emigrate! Great solution Professor.

Stheno

relax carry on wrote: »

Show of hands, how many posters here actually know how much direct tax they are paying? That is how much PAYE and USC you are paying. Some add PRSI aswell to get their total direct contribution to the state each year. Dig out your P60 from last year and add up the deductions and figure out the percentage you are paying on your gross income. Looking at it on a weekly or monthly basis is misleading. Look at the 12 months of the tax year for your effective tax rate.

I do as my accountants tell me every chuffing month and year end

Wheeliebin30

SCOOP 64 wrote: »

Maybe just take a diffferent look at it, just think of all the people you are helping,
like you would if you donate to a charity.

Don't get me started on charities!

Worst of all the scammers.

relax carry on

Stheno wrote: »

I do as my accountants tell me every chuffing month and year end

So what's the percentage? If it's too high, what percentage do you feel is right for direct taxation keeping in mind that a level of taxation is required to fund the state.

Paddy Porter

SCOOP 64 wrote: »

Maybe just take a diffferent look at it, just think of all the people you are helping,
like you would if you donate to a charity.

Charidees in most civilised countries are for deserving causes and would be appropriately regulated.

I our little cesspit it is to keep the CEO and his/her coterie in the lifestyle they think they deserve and the regulator is a shill from some political party.

Life goes on ......

BorneTobyWilde

Seems you can't get ahead being a goody two shoes, so stop being one.
Look how corrupt the people are who govern ,and ask why you are being so perfect for them ?

nhunter100

relax carry on wrote:

Show of hands, how many posters here actually know how much direct tax they are paying? That is how much PAYE and USC you are paying. Some add PRSI aswell to get their total direct contribution to the state each year. Dig out your P60 from last year and add up the deductions and figure out the percentage you are paying on your gross income. Looking at it on a weekly or monthly basis is misleading. Look at the 12 months of the tax year for your effective tax rate.

27% of gross.

Stheno

relax carry on wrote: »

So what's the percentage? If it's too high, what percentage do you feel is right for direct taxation keeping in mind that a level of taxation is required to fund the state.

I'd prefer not to say tbh suffice to say that I now have measures in place such as pension planning and it will halve as a result

Paddy Porter

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Seems you can't get ahead being a goody two shoes, so stop being one.
Look how corrupt the people are who govern ,and ask why you are being so perfect for them ?

More incompetent than corrupt in this posters opinion....and that applies to not just the present Government.

tayto lover

L1011 wrote: »

Your home which requires council provided services to be of any value. Not going to sell without a road, for starters.

Which we pay for through all our other taxes including funnily enough Road Tax.

Professor Moriarty

Cortina_MK_IV wrote: »

Seems to crop up a lot. If all else fails emigrate! Great solution Professor.

Vote, get elected, accept or emigrate. Any other options?

Wheeliebin30

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Vote, get elected, accept or emigrate. Any other options?

Moan and whinge on boards:)

jimmy180sx

tayto lover wrote:

Which we pay for through all our other taxes including funnily enough Road Tax.

No road tax I'm afraid. They thought situations like that and renamed it motor tax..

[Deleted User]

Agree 100 percent with OP> I got my Christmas bonus too , liss than half in my pocket to take home. For this I get up at 5:45 am each day, work a nine hour day and run a house with 2 kids.

Meanwhile, certain people I know sit on their arse, breed as many kids as they feel like, and get 'paid' each week. Seriously, I heard one of then saying she would buy her new shoes when she gets 'paid' I said I thought you had to earn money to be paid. She didn't get it ..

Here's what I would do straight off if I was 'in charge' of Ireland Inc Finances:

child benefit, free medical card etc only for first 2 kids, the rest are at your own expense
single parent allowance only paid if you declare father of child, and he then gets an attachment to his earnings (or his social welfare payment) you breed em, you pay for em.
unemployment benefit cut off after one year UNLESS you are sick, disabled etc. Plenty of jobs out there now

oh and that's just for starters....

I honestly think the mood in the country would back such measures, But there is no political party with the backbone to introduce such radical change

Chris Martin

There's an awful lot to be said for complete and utter transparency in Finance.
Once the figures are in the open, questions can be asked with complete certainty.
No more materialized figures, nothing to hide. In theory, such a simple solution.

tayto lover

jimmy180sx wrote: »

No road tax I'm afraid. They thought situations like that and renamed it motor tax..

That doesn't add up though especially if you consider that they sent the Property Tax to fund Irish Water. Property Tax is not Water Tax.

eeguy

It's funny that the guy dutifully paying his taxes is told to emigrate if he's not happy with the way things are run, but when a homeless person in the city is offered a house down the country immediately people are up in arms about moving him away from his "support network".

holyhead

Inheritance tax is another load of nonsense. It's like a double taxation as the money used to build up the inheritance was subject to tax in the first place.

The Belly

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Vote, get elected, accept or emigrate. Any other options?

I have to agree not many other options. I have chosen to emigrate. Noonans introduction of the reduced CGT to 10% was the catalyst to sell up.

Chris Martin

holyhead wrote: »

Inheritance tax is another load of nonsense. It's like a double taxation as the money used to build up the inheritance was subject to tax in the first place.

Huge +1

It's like being penalized for saving.
Akin to when the church used to visit deathbeds and ask people for all their possessions in exchange for a trip to heaven.
Water tax is there to improve water services, motor tax for roads and to atone for pollution emitted, what the hell is inheritance tax for?

Imagine leaving a grandchild €5,000 and taking money off them.
I guess to be in a position to do something like that everything must be treated as a statistic.

eeguy

Thousands came out in protest that after tax is a double tax.
Like you already pay for it in general taxation so why should I pay a utility for water?

Got me thinking about housing. My taxes pay for thousands of houses to be built, but I still pay a mortgage for my house.

My tax pays for free travel, but I have to pay for travel.
My tax pays for medical cards, but I have to pay to see the doctor.
Etc etc.

Sometimes I feel like a second class citizen, since it feels like my tax pays to ease the lives of those who pay no tax, while I get absolutely nothing in return.

I don't mind paying tax, I just wish I would get some form of benefit from it.

Professor Moriarty

eeguy wrote: »

Thousands came out in protest that after tax is a double tax.
Like you already pay for it in general taxation so why should I pay a utility for water?

Got me thinking about housing. My taxes pay for thousands of houses to be built, but I still pay a mortgage for my house.

My tax pays for free travel, but I have to pay for travel.
My tax pays for medical cards, but I have to pay to see the doctor.
Etc etc.

Sometimes I feel like a second class citizen, since it feels like my tax pays to ease the lives of those who pay no tax, while I get absolutely nothing in return.

I don't mind paying tax, I just wish I would get some form of benefit from it.

You must be on a big salary.

eeguy

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

You must be on a big salary.

I thought we were in the ROI forum, not after hours.

Professor Moriarty

eeguy wrote: »

I thought we were in the ROI forum, not after hours.

I have no idea what that means.