limo_100 wrote: » lads I sold a bullock in may and he was killed in the middle of October just wondering if this man made any money he was 28 months 386 R+2= what was his KO% ??
Bass Reeves wrote: » Nearest Factory to me is about 12 miles for me to travel to next nearest about 30 miles would cost me 2.5c/kg in transport alone. When you move beyond that to ones 60+ miles and loading night before, between transport and weight loss it is 10c/kg alone to break even.
Bass Reeves wrote: » He did not grade but it was a good weight for 28 months. Killout would have been maybe 53% or a tad less because of FS of 2=. He would have been outside spec so no QA and would have been at least 6c less the base. I am trying to think but was the base at 3.6 by mid October so he might have only got 3.54/kg. At that he would have grossed 1366 euro. He needed feeding at least 250kgs of ration for 9 weeks before slaughter to get him to FS3= it might have carried him to U- as well. At a guess he have killed 20+kg heavier at a price of 3.84/kg. That would have bought him to 1560 euro. Cost of ration 50-70 euro. What did he make when you sold him.
limo_100 wrote: » I surprised he wasn't at at least a U grade as I thought he was an R= at least when I sold him he was a red limousine bullock. When I sold him he was 570kg and I got €1390 I think I got the most profit buy its no good for anyone unless we all can make a profit Also by the time icbf updated the profile he may well have being killed early October late sept
Bass Reeves wrote: » If he was killed 2-3 weeks earlier at a higher base by 10c/kg it was worth the princly sum of 38.60. He would have been about 730kg's at slaughter. The ration at a conversion of 7-1 might have added 35kg to his LW but the K/O migh have increased to 56% in which case he would have killed 425kgs. It is amazing a bit of feeding can do.
Muckit wrote: » He must have been a lad summer grazing a few cattle with no housing. He didn't pamper that bullock with nuts anyhow. He paid over the odds for him the first day. Then he sent him off to factory unfinished when he was in no panic. He got creeled on the double but he'll be back at the ring again next spring!!
Muckit wrote: » Interesting. A lad l know always keen to bring cattle in the morning they are killed. It wouldn't suit me, always bring down the night before. It's one of the few benefits of selling direct to factory - not having to take time off the day job. Would most of the weight difference not be gut fill? I wouldnt have thought it would have any affect on carcase weight.
Bass Reeves wrote: » No dehydration would be most of the cause. Cattle will sweat a terror on a long journey. Most of this comes from the carcass. Also when cattle travel further they nearly always spend overnight in the factory lairage. However I thing it is the time in the truck that is the killer but saw an article in the FJ earlier this year. A feed lot owner in the UK if cattle are travelling a distance will not load cattle until the morning of the slaughter no matter how far they travel. Cattle that are killed fresh always kill better according to him.
Bass Reeves wrote: » Having said that if he was killed Mid October the lad had him about 150 days and he pit 160kgs on him. Real issue might have been quality of grass as he put on over a kg/day. If he killed 2= FS he must have been fairly bare on cover.
limo_100 wrote: » Would would you expect a finishing animal to put on over a 150 day grazing?
Danzy wrote: » Teagasc predicting 3.50 steer base next year.
Bass Reeves wrote: » I think it might be a bit on the optmistic side the way things are going
Danzy wrote: » I wouldn't be surprised, what is your gut thinking.
Bass Reeves wrote: » I was optmistic for Christmas and January but kill remaining very strong. Demand is strong but it is easy to sell cheap beef. Now not so sure taught we would be hitting 3.75/3.8 for steers now but a bit off it yet. Next year is going to be very very hard. Unless we hit over 4/kg for Christmas and hold near it for the winter( now unlikly) they will really drop prices from next August on. Hard to see it bottoming out at 3.5/kg next September/October we could be 20-30c/kg below that. But against that cheap beef is easy to sell.
orm0nd wrote: » think you're forgetting 1 very important point cheap cattle does'nt always mean cheap beef . (same with sheep, grain etc.,)
blue5000 wrote: » Ballpark €3.70 for R grade, are you in hereford prime?
CloughCasey1 wrote: » Got killout back from what were sent Thursday. Happy out.☺ BR M/D G/F KG COLD CHX 22/24 U+2= 456 LMX 24/27 U=3+ 430 LMX 24/21 R+4= 384 CHX 24/26 R=3- 417 CHX 24/27 R+2+ 486 LMX 24/22 U+3- 461 LMX 24/9 R=3+ 436 LMX 22/23 U=3- 436 LMX 22/22 R=3+ 429 LMX 30/02 U-3- 366 LMX 24/26 U-2+ 388 LMX 31/5 U=3- 457 CHX 24/27 U= 3- 477 CHX 22/24 U-2+ 391
Robson99 wrote: » Great weights Cough. What were you feeding them for the last coupe if months.? You could have even fed them fir another month
CloughCasey1 wrote: » They were getting 5kg finishing ration. Getting that since start oct. They were finished out so you can imagine the tearing they were at. Could have done till new yr alright but they did fine. My auld b&w's will never see weight like that.
Count Mondego wrote: » What would the ration cost per head, €200?
Muckit wrote: » Did you get docked for the one a few days over?
