DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: » Massive income tax to pay for all the social programmes. My Dad has a great story of visiting Denmark, Norway, Sweden and Finland in the summer of 1975. On the final night of their tour he asked a Finnish chap in a bar in Helsinki do the Scandinavian people share any sort of common bond. The man said yes, "We, Denmark and Norway all hate Sweden."
Dr Jakub wrote: » This. I'd rather live in a run down ****ty place like Ireland that has a heart and soul to it than somewhere like PC, gender neutral Swedanistan.
h2005 wrote: » The alcoholism rate is higher in Sweden no?
Ferrari3600 wrote: » From what I've been told, the political correctness is genuinely stifling in Norway and Sweden. Denmark, not so much. Finland is different altogether.
Fluffy Cat 88 wrote: » Questions from someone who's never visited there: - Does the darkness over the winter months really affect those living there (particularly northern Scandinavians)? I suffer from SAD myself and always imagined it must be horrible there in winter.
Fluffy Cat 88 wrote: » Is Finland a heavy metal mecca? If that rumour is true I gotta go there some day!
Fluffy Cat 88 wrote: » Questions from someone who's never visited there: - Does the darkness over the winter months really affect those living there (particularly northern Scandinavians)? I suffer from SAD myself and always imagined it must be horrible there in winter. Is Finland a heavy metal mecca? If that rumour is true I gotta go there some day!
iDave wrote: » Type gender equal snow plows into google and you'll see how mad Sweden has become.
Previously, fresh snowfalls were cleared first from main roads and by areas like construction sites before being removed from pavements and cycle lanes. As men are more likely to drive and women more likely to travel on foot, more women slipped on the ice which led to complaints that the system was sexist.
But chaos reportedly was the result for both genders, according to the tabloid Aftonbladet’s headline, “Feministisk snöröjning funkar inte i Stockholm,” (“Feminist Snow Removal Flunks in Stockholm.”) Buses (also, it turns out, heavily used by women) were stuck by the hundreds on roads blocked by stalled cars. Light rail trains moved at half speed, forcing stranded commuters to walk for hours to get home from work, slipping and falling on glasslike sidewalks and bike paths. Others stayed home with children as schools shut down.
Vice-mayor of Stockholm, the Green Party’s Daniel Helldén, admitted that “equality snow removal” had failed the city, and apologised to residents who had injured themselves as a result.
thee glitz wrote: » I did - pretty funny reading (apart from the injuries of course).
"Those who defend prostitution argue that it is possible to differentiate between voluntary and non-voluntary prostitution, that adults should have the right to freely sell and freely purchase sex (...) However, based on a gender equality and human rights perspective, (...) the distinction between voluntary and nonvoluntary prostitution is not relevant."
Yamanoto wrote: » In the Swedes nonsense attempt to engineer a utopian society of absolute equals, personal freedoms are trumped by their fetish for crow-barring gender equality & human rights legislation into areas where common sense policy would yield better results. On the issue of sex work for instance, they're saying a person who freely chooses to provide sex for sale...
Discodog wrote: » A very good friend lives in Gothenburg & she is Swedish. She feels the need to protest against the Democracy Party which are basically Neo Nazis & are very strong in Sweden.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3349890/Sweden-Home-IKEA-meatballs-ABBA-racism-Swedish-right-wing-went-joke-big-political-player-just-seven-years.html
Discodog wrote: » A few weeks ago she needed urgent medical treatment. She arrived at the hospital & had to wait 7 hours ! She finds it crazy that we think their health service is so good. She also assures me that the buses are often late or simply don't run at all. She feels scared walking on the streets at night. She wants to live here.
Greentopia wrote: » Nordic is not interchangeable with Scandinavian. I meant Scandinavian but was in hurry typing. God ya have little to complain about :rolleyes:
Greentopia wrote: » Quite how free a woman is who is forced into the situation of prostituting themselves for a living is questionable IMO. If she had any other choice do you think many would freely choose to work in such a degrading and dangerous profession? It is that stand point I believe which Swedish law takes-aiming to protect it's citizens from exploitation and human rights abuses. They have criminalised the pimps and those who buy sex, not the women (and some men perhaps too) who sell themselves. I agree that should trump any "freedom" customers feel they should have to buy sex from these women (who are often trafficked into Sweden and who live in terrible circumstances), especially in a situation where women have to work on the streets.
Ralf and Florian wrote: » It means pretty much the same thing.https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/nordic
Winterlong wrote: » And then there is their liking for snus. WTF is going on with that?
Greentopia wrote: » All quotes from tabloid Aftonbladet? how about a more reputable newspaper like Dagens Nyheter?
Yamanoto wrote: » The 'Swedish model' has been a failure in practise...
Yamanoto wrote: » & has incontrovertibly added to the risks associated with sex for sale, but hey, the optics look good & the middle-class / college educated women who formulated the policy get to travel the international lecture circuit & accept pats on the back from the choir they're preaching to (guess who that audience consists of). It's instructive how proponents of such a policy (including those in Ireland) are never too keen to actually listen to or take on board the submissions of sex workers themselves.
thee glitz wrote: » There was a bit from Breitbart too.http://www.dn.se/sthlm/trafikborgarradet-snorojningen-har-inte-fungerat/
nice_guy80 wrote: » Swedes are very impersonal. Everything is about the individual, as the state practically takes care of you for life. Much less family ties. Lots of old people die in their apartments in Stockholm every year with nobody aware they are dead. Very sad
nice_guy80 wrote: » I do like their free Swedish classes for immigrants policy
Greentopia wrote: » Breibart? you are joking right?
That URL tells me nothing more than what I already know-traffic chaos in Stockholm and a system that didn't work. No rabid headlines about feminism there, sorry.
Stockholm Vice Mayor Daniel Helldén (MP) admits bluntly that the equality snow removal has not worked. - Walkways and bike paths has not been cleared to the extent that it is supposed to priority order, said Daniel Helldén. In the hospitals, the continued pressure on the orthopedic departments after the snowfall. During a normal week in November, orthopedic emergency room at Danderyd Hospital around 50 applicants per day. On 9 November, 108 people sought treatment at the orthopedist. Also on St. George's Hospital has been taking care of large amounts of slip related accidents, on Wednesday received 83 cases and 93 cases on Thursday. The hospital says that even today, Friday, continue to come in many injured people. - I regret very much those injured. The idea is that it easier to get around by walking in this type of snowfall. It is not good that we have not succeeded. We have allocated more money in the budget we should take in the next week, said Daniel Helldén. He can not, however, spell out the problems of the past few days clearing snow. - I have requested an emergency report to find out what has happened to these days. Has it failed somewhere and we'll correct it. With this report we hope to be able to do it better next time.Where is the responsibility? - For final analysis, is responsible for snow removal on me. It is my duty to ensure that the office does what we say in our directives. It is my responsibility to ensure that this dissolves.Are you self-critical? - Yes, we can surely say.What do you say to those who are disappointed with the snow removal? - I regret that Stockholmers have been affected and that they have had problems to move in town and get to work and school. I will do my utmost so that we do not have to experience this kind of chaos again. Major snowstorms always means trouble. But it should not be like it was now.
thee glitz wrote: » No, Breitbart came up top of a search. So I checked another page too. I wouldn't expect rabid headlines about feminism from that outlet. What it also says is
thee glitz wrote: » I wouldn't expect rabid headlines about feminism from that outlet. What it also says is
Greentopia wrote: » Your choice. And your description tells me you never lived there so perhaps actually go there and see what it's like for yourself or at least talk to some Swedes before swallowing the American/British alt-right/conservative hate propaganda you read on the web. "Swedanistan" indeed...Jesus wept :rolleyes:
