hatrickpatrick wrote: » But again does nobody see the double standard here? Extremist SJWs who behave just as badly as people like Milo (and who in my view are responsible for creating his brand of reactionism) don't get dissected and called out in this manner, not in mainstream discourse. The Alt-Right is socially unacceptable, the SJW left is not. That's a major, major difference which in my view makes all the difference in terms of which is the more dangerous movement.
Brian? wrote: » Feminism is about equal rights.
Special Circumstances wrote: » Ah, so no one individual and no culture is deplorable. But it's good if a particular culture dies out.... would you say that rather than being deplorable it was "below average? Mediocre? So so? Pretty good but could do better, should die out all the same? Too awesome, best to kill it off to give others a chance? Is it a good thing for ANY culture to be lost, or just some of them?
Brian? wrote: » This exactly what I'm talking about. You belittle and hector my earlier posts until you get a one liner you can pull out. Then you selectively edit an older post to make it look like I'm the one being unreasonable and emotional. Well done, Milo and Ann would be proud. This is the online version of shouting over someone. How about you address the points I made rather than the points you want to address? I don't believe the alt right have any legitimate grievances. The white man is not being oppressed. At worst, white culture in the US is being lost. But IMO that's a great thing.
ancapailldorcha wrote: » This is an important topic well worthy of an intelligent debate. Refrain from posting memes please.
When they finally get girlfriends, they'll grow tired of being trolls.
Amazingfun wrote: » Uh, no I didn't "belittle", "hector" nor "wait" for anything. See, again your over-emotionalism in regards to this is not "debate". As well as that, I didn't edit anything. The statement from you I posted was a stand-alone sentence in a longer post. Don't get mad at me for posting your own words! ***doubt Milo nor Ann care much about Boards.ie, lol As for your joy at the "end of White culture", well, assuming you yourself are a White (Irish) man, that seems fairly bizarre.
ancapailldorcha wrote: » The UK and the US.
midnight city wrote: » Feminism is about advancing the rights of women. Their focus is solely on women's issues. It is not about equal rights anymore. If it was you would hear them highlight issues affecting men too. They are totally silent on boys underachieving at school, about male suicide, about parental access for fathers. Those things are of no interest to them.
Muhammed_1 wrote: » This thread is basically several leftists shutting down debate using labels and name calling...
Muhammed_1 wrote: » Why do Irish leaders see the need to get pats on the head from German dictators?
Muhammed_1 wrote: » This thread shows the disconnect between modern leftists and the real world. So much argument and name calling. So little content. The left are becoming increasingly hated by the center and by the rest of society. This thread is basically several leftists shutting down debate using labels and name calling and then congratulating each other as if they have actually won a debate using reason and facts. The left is unable to debate, unless they are preaching to the choir. The left ignore their own inability to argue their position, or to debate their position. In fact, the left even have difficulties in stating what their position is! Does the left support unlimited immigration? What is wrong with dabate? Why should Ireland be flooded with immigrants? Why should corporations have to pay no tax? Why do leftists refuse to house Irish people? Why do Irish leaders see the need to get pats on the head from German dictators?
Jan_de_Bakker wrote: » I would agree with this if it was 3rd wave feminism, feminism as in traditional feminism is (should be) purely about equality and there are still traditional feminists in the world - sadly they seem to be diminishing.
Muhammed_1 wrote: » This thread shows the disconnect between modern leftists and the real world.So much argument and name calling. So little content.The left are becoming increasingly hated by the center and by the rest of society. This thread is basically several leftists shutting down debate using labels and name calling and then congratulating each other as if they have actually won a debate using reason and facts.The left is unable to debate, unless they are preaching to the choir. The left ignore their own inability to argue their position, or to debate their position. In fact, the left even have difficulties in stating what their position is!Does the left support unlimited immigration? What is wrong with dabate? Why should Ireland be flooded with immigrants? Why should corporations have to pay no tax? Why do leftists refuse to house Irish people? Why do Irish leaders see the need to get pats on the head from German dictators?
Jep Gambardella wrote: » You complain about people resorting to name calling and then call the German chancellor a dictator?
Muhammed_1 wrote: » Yes, I, and many others, consider that the German Chancellor has gone on a solo run. She has issued diktats. She has involved Europe in political positions that haven't been agreed by the majority. Her own population are protesting saying Merkel must go. In any event, is that the only thing you take from my post? Typical leftist. Cherry picking, and selective arguing of facts. I called the german chancellor a dictator. Hardly controversial, and not on topic. Yet that is the only part of my post that you seek to reply to. You are seeking to find offence, and to take offence, at every opportunity and it is obvious to everyone, except leftists themselves apparently. You want to be a victim as it allows you to act like a cry baby snowflake. Yes, I'm aware I'm using labels but I am explaining their use, and defending their use. Using facts and reason. Do you support unlimited immigration into this country while Irish people live on the streets?
Muhammed_1 wrote: » Yes, I'm aware I'm using labels but I am explaining their use, and defending their use. Using facts and reason. Do you support unlimited immigration into this country while Irish people live on the streets?
alastair wrote: » Congrats on getting pretty much everything wrong in this straw man riddled post. Hopefully you don't feel 'shut down' by that response..
Muhammed_1 wrote: » I don't feel shut down. It is obvious that you cannot argue your position. All you have is denigration, misrepresentation name calling.
alastair wrote: » FACT - there is no unlimited immigration in this country. Next.
Muhammed_1 wrote: » The question was. Do you support unlimited immigration into this country while Irish people live on the streets? A straightforward refusal or failure by you to answer a simple question. Or else, a masssive inability to comprehend simple english. The question was. Do you support unlimited immigration into this country while Irish people live on the streets? You haven't answered it. Are you aware of that or do you think you're performing to a high standard?
legocrazy505 wrote: » What has immigration got to do with this particular topic, though? Absolutely nothing. Also please read my posts, the alt-right are just as ludicrous as the far left, you'll keep ignoring this fact though I'm sure so you can carry on with your worldview. I'm not the poster but no obviously I don't support unlimited immigration but if you think it's a problem for Ireland then you haven't looked at the facts.http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/ireland-refuses-asylum-to-90pc-of-applicants-35229842.html Read all of it.
alastair wrote: » Ah - so you're interested in debating academic issues that don't actually apply. What's your position on cats driving the LUAS then?
Sound of Silence wrote: » I end up wondering whether it's either myself or the entire movement that's lost touch with the common man.
Muhammed_1 wrote: » Support for immigration is consider a left wing issue. The lunatic No Borders crowd are leftists. It is ok to call them lunatics as that is what they clearly are. Anyone calling for poeple to unlock their houses and cars and to leave them unlocked would also be called a lunatic. Calling for a country to be unlocked is the same thing. It is crazy to open our borders to the world. That's why I posed my question about support for unlimited immigration. You may have since noted that the left are unwilling to answer the question. What are they afraid of? That if they answer people will see them as foolish? If you think your own position is foolish and indefensible then perhaps you should row back from it. I see your article had the headline. Ireland refuses asylum to 90pc of applicants So what? All political parties seem to support open and unlimited immigration. No party has placed a limit on immigration which makes what I say true. It is bizarre that supposed nationalist parties like Sinn Fein support unlimited immigration. They are lying about their own nature.
